Mt Holyoke vs Tufts

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Anonymous wrote:Stand-alone women's colleges like MHC, Smith and Wellesley (unlike Barnard or Bryn Mawr) are very distinctive in culture. A student really needs to be sure she wants that experience. I went to Wellesley and am grateful for the education I received there and for the wonderful friends I made, but if the Way-Back Machine landed in my front yard, I'd go back to HS and choose a coed college.

Just curious. How is Bryan Mawr not a stand-alone women’s college? I get your point about Barnard but Bryn Mawr?

True, Barnard is actually part of Columbia, but Bryn Mawr is literally next door to Haverford, the dining halls on both campuses are open to students from both schools, and students at either school can very easily take courses at the other school.

No, Barnard is not a part of Columbia. Columbia College, Columbia Law School, Columbia Business School, etc., are all part of the Columbia Corporation. Barnard is not part of the Columbia Corporation. Barnard is a separate corporate entity. Barnard has its own President, its own Board of Trustees and its own endowment. That’s why Columbia couldn’t force Barnard to merge, and thank God for that. Columbia and Barnard used to have an agreement but it expired long ago. Columbia and Barnard simply act as if the old agreement were still in force.

As a practical matter, the technicality isn’t really relevant. The two are incredibly integrated. From Barnard’s own catalogue:

“Barnard is both an independently incorporated educational institutiion and an official college of Columbia University”

The degree which Barnard students receive at graduation is signed by both the president of Barnard and the president of Columbia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW: At Mount Holyoke, all of the top recruiters came to campus.

I'm sure Wall Street and the big consulting firms are filled with MHC grads.

Sarcasm aside, Wellesley is the only Seven Sister to have a credible presence in the world of finance recruiting.

The stats of incoming classes at MCH is significantly below Wellesley or Tufts. It is what it is. It doesn't mean MHC isn't a good college, for it is a good college. But it is not going to open the same doors as going to Tufts or Wellesley would. Career fairs with a token representative isn't the same as a serious recruitment funnel. And that's fine. It's how the world works.

I went to Mount Holyoke in the 90s, got recruited there by an investment bank, and so did many of my math & econ majors friends. A handful ended up in management consulting too. I still work on Wall Street and I make 7 figures. I never pursued a graduate degree.

One thing many forget is that corporate America is hungry for smart, ambitious women who can make it to the top, bc there are so few women in leadership positions. You can find boatloads of those in the top women's colleges, and employers know it.

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Let’s not forget that our almost first female POTUS was educated at a women’s college.

The girls who are not too driven, like to wear skimpy clothes, get drunk and snag a prospective husband in college don’t go to a women’s college. They go to a Vandy, Duke, USC and the likes.

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Anonymous wrote:How about, see which one(s) your daughter gets into and then see if you even have a choice.

MHC is pretty easy to get into if you’re at all a good student.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s not forget that our almost first female POTUS was educated at a women’s college.

The girls who are not too driven, like to wear skimpy clothes, get drunk and snag a prospective husband in college don’t go to a women’s college. They go to a Vandy, Duke, USC and the likes.

Hillary went to a woman’s college because the top schools were still single sex at the time. But that was literally half a century ago.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet 99.99% here chooing Tufts.

Maybe, but who cares what others choose? Choose what works for you. I know a young woman who went to Tufts and absolutely hated it, although she did very well. If her parents had not forced her into the most prestigious college she could get into, she might have enjoyed the experience more. She actually probably would have loved MHC. She did well at Tufts and went to grad school and is doing well. She just didn’t connect with Tufts and was unhappy. She could have gotten into the same grad school doing well at any college and been happier. I don’t think Tufts, or any other school, is worth it just for the name of you hate it.

My child is at a different women’s college, so I know it’s not for everyone, but for some people, it’s a a great fit and an amazing experience.

Of course you are right, but your wisdom is probably lost on the PP you are responding to. Some people are slaves to USNWR.

Yup, I think a lot of the dissing of women's colleges in this thread comes from people who have so deeply absorbed USNWR into their thought process that they don't even realize it any more.

Using different criteria can get very different results. I was heartened to see this ranking (based primarily on classroom experience and student happiness) on which women's colleges do very well, proving that it all depends on what you're looking for. Six of them are ahead of Tufts!!!

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/blog/6/

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There is enough stress on this forum without resurrecting year old threads.

Also, I think anyone who reads this forum is familiar with the what feels like daily posting of the “less high school stress” ranking ..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s not forget that our almost first female POTUS was educated at a women’s college.

The girls who are not too driven, like to wear skimpy clothes, get drunk and snag a prospective husband in college don’t go to a women’s college. They go to a Vandy, Duke, USC and the likes.

Ummm...and with your disparaging remarks about women who attend Vanderbilt and Duke, you are omitting other key info about many of the students who choose Mt Holyoke.