FCPS CRT or nah?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?

But this is you, a parent, teaching a lesson. That is how is should be. This is not a lesson the schools should be teaching.

Why not?

Should they teach about anything related to "being a good person"?

Honesty? Responsibility? Empathy? etc.?

Generic, golden rule stuff the schools can do. When they get into race and social justice their teaching will differ from how many, many parents handle those issues. Those teachings are a parent's right and responsibility. Teaching CRT is about usurping that right. Social justice people want to teach their beliefs to other people's children. Keep that stuff out of the schools and the contention goes away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?

But this is you, a parent, teaching a lesson. That is how is should be. This is not a lesson the schools should be teaching.

Why not?

Should they teach about anything related to "being a good person"?

Honesty? Responsibility? Empathy? etc.?

I don't think anyone is suggesting that there are lessons about being a good person. It's about developing critical thinking skills and understanding multiple points of view. The best way I can understand what an author has written, whether it's a novel or a primary source from an historical event or a textbook IS to understand that everyone comes with a point of view made up of their experiences. My world view is just that--MY view. It's really okay to teach kids that people have different experiences from them. It makes them better thinkers and problem solvers. I truly don't understand why people are so afraid and upset around this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?

But this is you, a parent, teaching a lesson. That is how is should be. This is not a lesson the schools should be teaching.

Why not?

Should they teach about anything related to "being a good person"?

Honesty? Responsibility? Empathy? etc.?

Generic, golden rule stuff the schools can do. When they get into race and social justice their teaching will differ from how many, many parents handle those issues. Those teachings are a parent's right and responsibility. Teaching CRT is about usurping that right. Social justice people want to teach their beliefs to other people's children. Keep that stuff out of the schools and the contention goes away.

FOR THE 9000TH TIME: NO ONE IS TEACHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY IN ANY ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE OR HIGH SCHOOL! GET A GRIP AND STOP PARROTING FOX NEWS TALKING POINTS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?

But this is you, a parent, teaching a lesson. That is how is should be. This is not a lesson the schools should be teaching.

Why not?

Should they teach about anything related to "being a good person"?

Honesty? Responsibility? Empathy? etc.?

I don't think anyone is suggesting that there are lessons about being a good person. It's about developing critical thinking skills and understanding multiple points of view. The best way I can understand what an author has written, whether it's a novel or a primary source from an historical event or a textbook IS to understand that everyone comes with a point of view made up of their experiences. My world view is just that--MY view. It's really okay to teach kids that people have different experiences from them. It makes them better thinkers and problem solvers. I truly don't understand why people are so afraid and upset around this.

People are upset about this because they don’t want to be challenged in their world view. Not when it comes to religion, not when it comes to politics.

When it comes to CRT, no one is setting out to make white kids feel guilty. If they feel guilty, it’s because they recognize some complicity in unfairness by them or their parents, and they are feeling guilty all on their own. There is some hope for those kids. Their parents are probably too far gone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?

But this is you, a parent, teaching a lesson. That is how is should be. This is not a lesson the schools should be teaching.

Why not?

Should they teach about anything related to "being a good person"?

Honesty? Responsibility? Empathy? etc.?

I don't think anyone is suggesting that there are lessons about being a good person. It's about developing critical thinking skills and understanding multiple points of view. The best way I can understand what an author has written, whether it's a novel or a primary source from an historical event or a textbook IS to understand that everyone comes with a point of view made up of their experiences. My world view is just that--MY view. It's really okay to teach kids that people have different experiences from them. It makes them better thinkers and problem solvers. I truly don't understand why people are so afraid and upset around this.

Because these lessons are based off dividing and defining kids by the superficial characteristics which they have no control over, and completely ignoring the qualities they do have control over and which make them unique.

Not to mention it is incredibly racist for a school to teach kids that things like intact families and education are a "white privilege " thing.

These kinds of lessons are created by racists and socialists, using ideas that you would have found in the Jim Crow era. They are racist and divided and have zero to do with empathy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?

But this is you, a parent, teaching a lesson. That is how is should be. This is not a lesson the schools should be teaching.

Why not?

Should they teach about anything related to "being a good person"?

Honesty? Responsibility? Empathy? etc.?

I don't think anyone is suggesting that there are lessons about being a good person. It's about developing critical thinking skills and understanding multiple points of view. The best way I can understand what an author has written, whether it's a novel or a primary source from an historical event or a textbook IS to understand that everyone comes with a point of view made up of their experiences. My world view is just that--MY view. It's really okay to teach kids that people have different experiences from them. It makes them better thinkers and problem solvers. I truly don't understand why people are so afraid and upset around this.

People are upset about this because they don’t want to be challenged in their world view. Not when it comes to religion, not when it comes to politics.

When it comes to CRT, no one is setting out to make white kids feel guilty. If they feel guilty, it’s because they recognize some complicity in unfairness by them or their parents, and they are feeling guilty all on their own. There is some hope for those kids. Their parents are probably too far gone.

Bull.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?

But this is you, a parent, teaching a lesson. That is how is should be. This is not a lesson the schools should be teaching.

Why not?

Should they teach about anything related to "being a good person"?

Honesty? Responsibility? Empathy? etc.?

I don't think anyone is suggesting that there are lessons about being a good person. It's about developing critical thinking skills and understanding multiple points of view. The best way I can understand what an author has written, whether it's a novel or a primary source from an historical event or a textbook IS to understand that everyone comes with a point of view made up of their experiences. My world view is just that--MY view. It's really okay to teach kids that people have different experiences from them. It makes them better thinkers and problem solvers. I truly don't understand why people are so afraid and upset around this.

That's far more nuanced than Privileged Bingo, and you know it.

We have to rid the public schools of clowns who'll suggest, tolerate, and teach this stuff, or pretend that it passes for teaching. Youngkin's election is a start in the right direction but it's clear there is so much work to be done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?

But this is you, a parent, teaching a lesson. That is how is should be. This is not a lesson the schools should be teaching.

Why not?

Should they teach about anything related to "being a good person"?

Honesty? Responsibility? Empathy? etc.?

I don't think anyone is suggesting that there are lessons about being a good person. It's about developing critical thinking skills and understanding multiple points of view. The best way I can understand what an author has written, whether it's a novel or a primary source from an historical event or a textbook IS to understand that everyone comes with a point of view made up of their experiences. My world view is just that--MY view. It's really okay to teach kids that people have different experiences from them. It makes them better thinkers and problem solvers. I truly don't understand why people are so afraid and upset around this.

Because these lessons are based off dividing and defining kids by the superficial characteristics which they have no control over, and completely ignoring the qualities they do have control over and which make them unique.

Not to mention it is incredibly racist for a school to teach kids that things like intact families and education are a "white privilege " thing.

These kinds of lessons are created by racists and socialists, using ideas that you would have found in the Jim Crow era. They are racist and divided and have zero to do with empathy.

OMG, the fear is running rampant this morning. Do you even have children? You're just making sh#t up and copying from your favorite conspiracy blogger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?

But this is you, a parent, teaching a lesson. That is how is should be. This is not a lesson the schools should be teaching.

Why not?

Should they teach about anything related to "being a good person"?

Honesty? Responsibility? Empathy? etc.?

I don't think anyone is suggesting that there are lessons about being a good person. It's about developing critical thinking skills and understanding multiple points of view. The best way I can understand what an author has written, whether it's a novel or a primary source from an historical event or a textbook IS to understand that everyone comes with a point of view made up of their experiences. My world view is just that--MY view. It's really okay to teach kids that people have different experiences from them. It makes them better thinkers and problem solvers. I truly don't understand why people are so afraid and upset around this.

Because these lessons are based off dividing and defining kids by the superficial characteristics which they have no control over, and completely ignoring the qualities they do have control over and which make them unique.

Not to mention it is incredibly racist for a school to teach kids that things like intact families and education are a "white privilege " thing.

These kinds of lessons are created by racists and socialists, using ideas that you would have found in the Jim Crow era. They are racist and divided and have zero to do with empathy.

Well said. The sad thing is that these people are so immersed in this crap that they don't even realize how reductive and patronizing it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?

But this is you, a parent, teaching a lesson. That is how is should be. This is not a lesson the schools should be teaching.

Why not?

Should they teach about anything related to "being a good person"?

Honesty? Responsibility? Empathy? etc.?

Generic, golden rule stuff the schools can do. When they get into race and social justice their teaching will differ from how many, many parents handle those issues. Those teachings are a parent's right and responsibility. Teaching CRT is about usurping that right. Social justice people want to teach their beliefs to other people's children. Keep that stuff out of the schools and the contention goes away.

FOR THE 9000TH TIME: NO ONE IS TEACHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY IN ANY ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE OR HIGH SCHOOL! GET A GRIP AND STOP PARROTING FOX NEWS TALKING POINTS.

You are not very knowledgeable about 3ducation, and fcps in particular.

Fcps has paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for contracts ahich are explicity to train teachers in CRT curriculum. That is fact and available if you do a lottle digging on fcps website.

Fcps helped develop the statewide CRT curriculum. The Virginia Department of Education publicly thanked them for their work on this in a newsletter this past spring.

Fcps learned over this past year how toxic CRT lessons in schools are for parents and the community as a whole. So they renamed CRT to stand for "Culturally Responsive Teaching."

Culturally Responsive Teaching are the CRT lessons, such as the Privilege Bingo, but renamed to evade parent's radar.

Start educating yourself on the inner workings of local education by diving into direct sources available in fcps board docs, the VA dept of ed, and FOIA requesrs. It is dry, boring reading, but it will open your eyes to what is really being taught in our schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?

But this is you, a parent, teaching a lesson. That is how is should be. This is not a lesson the schools should be teaching.

Why not?

Should they teach about anything related to "being a good person"?

Honesty? Responsibility? Empathy? etc.?

I don't think anyone is suggesting that there are lessons about being a good person. It's about developing critical thinking skills and understanding multiple points of view. The best way I can understand what an author has written, whether it's a novel or a primary source from an historical event or a textbook IS to understand that everyone comes with a point of view made up of their experiences. My world view is just that--MY view. It's really okay to teach kids that people have different experiences from them. It makes them better thinkers and problem solvers. I truly don't understand why people are so afraid and upset around this.

Because these lessons are based off dividing and defining kids by the superficial characteristics which they have no control over, and completely ignoring the qualities they do have control over and which make them unique.

Not to mention it is incredibly racist for a school to teach kids that things like intact families and education are a "white privilege " thing.

These kinds of lessons are created by racists and socialists, using ideas that you would have found in the Jim Crow era. They are racist and divided and have zero to do with empathy.

Why are YOU tying those back to race at all?

There are many different types of privilege.

[Anonymous]

It is never appropriate for a public school to teach about people being "privileged" or naming kids as "oppressors" or "victims" because children take that as fact and act on it in negative ways. I mean when you hear someone is an oppressor or has unwarranted privilege is your reaction to treat them respectfully? Absolutely not. Teaching it at home is fine as we can guide our children to avoid your racist and progressive propaganda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know it’s popular to say CRT isn’t taught in schools, and that it’s strawman to rev up the base. And at a macro level, that statement is generally true, but what about this:
https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/19/in-defiance-of-youngkin-fairfax-public-school-demands-high-schoolers-participate-in-privilege-bingo/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/19/in-defiance-of-youngkin-fairfax-public-school-demands-high-schoolers-participate-in-privilege-bingo/

I think Youngkin rode in on this kind of thing. And honestly this exactly the kind of thing that opposition parents were afraid of. Do you agree with this lesson?

I might be interested in this if the anti-CRT advocates didn't always operate in complete bad faith. As it is, Y A W N.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?

But this is you, a parent, teaching a lesson. That is how is should be. This is not a lesson the schools should be teaching.

Why not?

Should they teach about anything related to "being a good person"?

Honesty? Responsibility? Empathy? etc.?

I don't think anyone is suggesting that there are lessons about being a good person. It's about developing critical thinking skills and understanding multiple points of view. The best way I can understand what an author has written, whether it's a novel or a primary source from an historical event or a textbook IS to understand that everyone comes with a point of view made up of their experiences. My world view is just that--MY view. It's really okay to teach kids that people have different experiences from them. It makes them better thinkers and problem solvers. I truly don't understand why people are so afraid and upset around this.

I don’t see how that “identify your privilege” bingo card is about an author’s point of view. It seems clearly directed at students themselves - “Drive/Get driven to school”, “Have your own bedroom”, “Military kid”.

[Anonymous]

"The old paradigm might have been to teach children to "count their blessings," even recognizing that some kids have more advantages than others, and then encourage students to reach their full potential.

The new paradigm is to stigmatize "privileges" (the "unearned" is silent), to imply that whatever those with more "privileges" accomplish in school or in life is also unearned, and reward those with fewer "privileges.""

I'm ok with the old paradigm and language. I do not like labeling these things "privileges" and presenting it as the bingo card did.

Moreover, what's the context this is being taught in? If it relates to learning about the introduction of affirmative action or perhaps the oversight of voting laws in the South or whatever else then ok (using old framing). But if it's being taught just to lecture to the kids then frankly i don't think that's something the schools should be carving out time to do.