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Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child in the TPMS magnet I am absolutely salty that they may not be identifying magnet kids. Magnet Math incorporates more challenging material AND meets half the time that regular math meets (every other day as opposed to every day).

1. An A in a class that is faster paced with more rigor means something different than an A in a class that meets twice as often with less rigor.

2. It sucks that not everyone who is capable and a good fit for the TPMS magnet gets admitted.

Both 1 and 2 can be true at the same time. And they are.

Why should Magnet kids get a priority when there are just as many or more non-magnet kids who are equally if not more deserving? It's not that much rigor at TPMS though you want to tell yourself that. And, not all kids want to go to TPMS. If your kid is taking Geometry in 8th vs. another taking Algebra 2, then one could argue that the child taking Algebra 2 not in a TPMS is more rigorous. And, if the non-TPMS MAP scores are higher, then that child would be more deserving as well.

I don't think she's saying they should get priority. At some point in the lotteries for ES or MS they said you had to get As in specific subjects to be considered/in the pool. If they are doing that for HS and a child has a B in a magnet math class I personally would see that as equivalent to an A in a regular math class so it's important to know which math class they are talking about. My child is non-magnet so this does not benefit my child.

I wouldn't think a B is better than an A if the B is Magnet which really isn't that different.

The child in a High School Honors Algebra 2 with all A's in 8th should get priority over their B magnet student in Geometry or Algebra 1. That would be more rigorous.

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Anonymous wrote:1. BCC isn't downcounty consortium.

2. There is a "geographic" criteria for magnet selection, so that MCPS can give an advantage to poorly-performing schools in lower-income districts. So if you're in Bethesda, yes, your child is at a disadvantage, even if you scraped together all you had to afford a rent-controlled apartment there.

I know this thread is a little bit old, but just popping in to say that for HS magnet selection, they don’t know your child’s current or in boundary school. They even strip course titles so the selection committee doesn’t know who came from TPMS, where math classes have “Magnet” in the course title. This came from Ostrander at the info session in the fall.

I was at the info session and he did not say that they strip magnet from the course titles.

NP: I was also there and heard him say it. You must have missed it, PP.

It was a good information session and he was very diplomatic. I got the sense that he was trying very hard to say all the right things, but that the committee absolutely knows who is in the TPMS magnet and who is not.

It has to be obvious because they would take computer science courses in 7th and 8th and they don't offer that at any other MS. It makes no sense to strip the magnet designation from the math grade in the transcript because the kids in the humanities magnet would also have different specialized courses that would be obvious.

Some schools offer it in 7th and 8th and others don't. My child's school offers computer science in both 7 and 8th and they took it.

Your school offers two levels of computer science? Which one?

They also allow Algebra in 6th... not one you'd ever consider.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child in the TPMS magnet I am absolutely salty that they may not be identifying magnet kids. Magnet Math incorporates more challenging material AND meets half the time that regular math meets (every other day as opposed to every day).

1. An A in a class that is faster paced with more rigor means something different than an A in a class that meets twice as often with less rigor.

2. It sucks that not everyone who is capable and a good fit for the TPMS magnet gets admitted.

Both 1 and 2 can be true at the same time. And they are.

Why should Magnet kids get a priority when there are just as many or more non-magnet kids who are equally if not more deserving? It's not that much rigor at TPMS though you want to tell yourself that. And, not all kids want to go to TPMS. If your kid is taking Geometry in 8th vs. another taking Algebra 2, then one could argue that the child taking Algebra 2 not in a TPMS is more rigorous. And, if the non-TPMS MAP scores are higher, then that child would be more deserving as well.

I don't think she's saying they should get priority. At some point in the lotteries for ES or MS they said you had to get As in specific subjects to be considered/in the pool. If they are doing that for HS and a child has a B in a magnet math class I personally would see that as equivalent to an A in a regular math class so it's important to know which math class they are talking about. My child is non-magnet so this does not benefit my child.

I wouldn't think a B is better than an A if the B is Magnet which really isn't that different.

The child in a High School Honors Algebra 2 with all A's in 8th should get priority over their B magnet student in Geometry or Algebra 1. That would be more rigorous.

The thing is: it IS different. The content and the pacing is very different. Why are you insisting it isn’t?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child in the TPMS magnet I am absolutely salty that they may not be identifying magnet kids. Magnet Math incorporates more challenging material AND meets half the time that regular math meets (every other day as opposed to every day).

1. An A in a class that is faster paced with more rigor means something different than an A in a class that meets twice as often with less rigor.

2. It sucks that not everyone who is capable and a good fit for the TPMS magnet gets admitted.

Both 1 and 2 can be true at the same time. And they are.

Why should Magnet kids get a priority when there are just as many or more non-magnet kids who are equally if not more deserving? It's not that much rigor at TPMS though you want to tell yourself that. And, not all kids want to go to TPMS. If your kid is taking Geometry in 8th vs. another taking Algebra 2, then one could argue that the child taking Algebra 2 not in a TPMS is more rigorous. And, if the non-TPMS MAP scores are higher, then that child would be more deserving as well.

I don't think she's saying they should get priority. At some point in the lotteries for ES or MS they said you had to get As in specific subjects to be considered/in the pool. If they are doing that for HS and a child has a B in a magnet math class I personally would see that as equivalent to an A in a regular math class so it's important to know which math class they are talking about. My child is non-magnet so this does not benefit my child.

I wouldn't think a B is better than an A if the B is Magnet which really isn't that different.

The child in a High School Honors Algebra 2 with all A's in 8th should get priority over their B magnet student in Geometry or Algebra 1. That would be more rigorous.

The thing is: it IS different. The content and the pacing is very different. Why are you insisting it isn’t?

It's not that different, but sure keep telling yourself that. Do you really think a B magnet student who completes Geometry is doing better than an A student taking Algebra 2? Sure, keep thinking that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child in the TPMS magnet I am absolutely salty that they may not be identifying magnet kids. Magnet Math incorporates more challenging material AND meets half the time that regular math meets (every other day as opposed to every day).

1. An A in a class that is faster paced with more rigor means something different than an A in a class that meets twice as often with less rigor.

2. It sucks that not everyone who is capable and a good fit for the TPMS magnet gets admitted.

Both 1 and 2 can be true at the same time. And they are.

Why should Magnet kids get a priority when there are just as many or more non-magnet kids who are equally if not more deserving? It's not that much rigor at TPMS though you want to tell yourself that. And, not all kids want to go to TPMS. If your kid is taking Geometry in 8th vs. another taking Algebra 2, then one could argue that the child taking Algebra 2 not in a TPMS is more rigorous. And, if the non-TPMS MAP scores are higher, then that child would be more deserving as well.

I don't think she's saying they should get priority. At some point in the lotteries for ES or MS they said you had to get As in specific subjects to be considered/in the pool. If they are doing that for HS and a child has a B in a magnet math class I personally would see that as equivalent to an A in a regular math class so it's important to know which math class they are talking about. My child is non-magnet so this does not benefit my child.

I wouldn't think a B is better than an A if the B is Magnet which really isn't that different.

The child in a High School Honors Algebra 2 with all A's in 8th should get priority over their B magnet student in Geometry or Algebra 1. That would be more rigorous.

The thing is: it IS different. The content and the pacing is very different. Why are you insisting it isn’t?

It's not that different, but sure keep telling yourself that. Do you really think a B magnet student who completes Geometry is doing better than an A student taking Algebra 2? Sure, keep thinking that.

I think you’re misunderstanding the premise. Algebra II is objectively harder than any Geometry.
But Geometry and Magnet Geometry are different; obscuring the Magnet is misleading. It would be like if Geometry and Algebra II were both listed as “Math.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child in the TPMS magnet I am absolutely salty that they may not be identifying magnet kids. Magnet Math incorporates more challenging material AND meets half the time that regular math meets (every other day as opposed to every day).

1. An A in a class that is faster paced with more rigor means something different than an A in a class that meets twice as often with less rigor.

2. It sucks that not everyone who is capable and a good fit for the TPMS magnet gets admitted.

Both 1 and 2 can be true at the same time. And they are.

Why should Magnet kids get a priority when there are just as many or more non-magnet kids who are equally if not more deserving? It's not that much rigor at TPMS though you want to tell yourself that. And, not all kids want to go to TPMS. If your kid is taking Geometry in 8th vs. another taking Algebra 2, then one could argue that the child taking Algebra 2 not in a TPMS is more rigorous. And, if the non-TPMS MAP scores are higher, then that child would be more deserving as well.

I don't think she's saying they should get priority. At some point in the lotteries for ES or MS they said you had to get As in specific subjects to be considered/in the pool. If they are doing that for HS and a child has a B in a magnet math class I personally would see that as equivalent to an A in a regular math class so it's important to know which math class they are talking about. My child is non-magnet so this does not benefit my child.

I wouldn't think a B is better than an A if the B is Magnet which really isn't that different.

The child in a High School Honors Algebra 2 with all A's in 8th should get priority over their B magnet student in Geometry or Algebra 1. That would be more rigorous.

The thing is: it IS different. The content and the pacing is very different. Why are you insisting it isn’t?

It's not that different, but sure keep telling yourself that. Do you really think a B magnet student who completes Geometry is doing better than an A student taking Algebra 2? Sure, keep thinking that.

I had one kid in magnet, geometry and another and algebra 2 and a regular high school. I can tell you the magnet course is actually relatively speaking harder and covers far more advanced material at a more rigorous pace. But if it helps you to believe something else, sure be my guest.

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Magnet algebra, magnet geometry, and yes (when takoma used to do Mag alg 2) are VASTLY different than those classes at regular Middle schools. I have had one at each, and told a friend who also did (but the reverse of mine) and couldn’t believe HOW different, until her younger went to TPMS instead of home middle school. They are not the same, at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Magnet algebra, magnet geometry, and yes (when takoma used to do Mag alg 2) are VASTLY different than those classes at regular Middle schools. I have had one at each, and told a friend who also did (but the reverse of mine) and couldn’t believe HOW different, until her younger went to TPMS instead of home middle school. They are not the same, at all.

Then it sounds like they should remove all the B/C students from the magnet program to open up slots for kids that can actually handle the work.

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The real question is how do you know a student score A in non-magnet math can not score A in magnet math? And how do you know if a magnet B student can surely score A in non-magnet math? Didn’t they were all tested and graded per what they were taught? I think magnet B students tells very clearly that the students shouldn’t continue magnet path.

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With the superb teacher at magnet, a student still can not succeed, why should he or she continue with the path?

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Anonymous wrote:With the superb teacher at magnet, a student still can not succeed, why should he or she continue with the path?

A superb teacher helps, but if a child is getting a B, it doesn't make sense to continue in a magnet vs. regular school with AP classes.

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Anonymous wrote:With the superb teacher at magnet, a student still can not succeed, why should he or she continue with the path?

A superb teacher helps, but if a child is getting a B, it doesn't make sense to continue in a magnet vs. regular school with AP classes.

I hate to agree with this but I mostly do. If a child is getting a B in magnet math, they are either trying hard and getting that B or not putting in enough work and getting a B. Either way, that sets a kid up for either massive frustration in a HS magnet or takes a spot that others might use more meaningfully.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child in the TPMS magnet I am absolutely salty that they may not be identifying magnet kids. Magnet Math incorporates more challenging material AND meets half the time that regular math meets (every other day as opposed to every day).

1. An A in a class that is faster paced with more rigor means something different than an A in a class that meets twice as often with less rigor.

2. It sucks that not everyone who is capable and a good fit for the TPMS magnet gets admitted.

Both 1 and 2 can be true at the same time. And they are.

Why should Magnet kids get a priority when there are just as many or more non-magnet kids who are equally if not more deserving? It's not that much rigor at TPMS though you want to tell yourself that. And, not all kids want to go to TPMS. If your kid is taking Geometry in 8th vs. another taking Algebra 2, then one could argue that the child taking Algebra 2 not in a TPMS is more rigorous. And, if the non-TPMS MAP scores are higher, then that child would be more deserving as well.

I don't think she's saying they should get priority. At some point in the lotteries for ES or MS they said you had to get As in specific subjects to be considered/in the pool. If they are doing that for HS and a child has a B in a magnet math class I personally would see that as equivalent to an A in a regular math class so it's important to know which math class they are talking about. My child is non-magnet so this does not benefit my child.

I wouldn't think a B is better than an A if the B is Magnet which really isn't that different.

The child in a High School Honors Algebra 2 with all A's in 8th should get priority over their B magnet student in Geometry or Algebra 1. That would be more rigorous.

The thing is: it IS different. The content and the pacing is very different. Why are you insisting it isn’t?

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A’s & B’s and an occasional C are normal in magnet classes, just as they are in regular classes.

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I don’t understand the belief that only kids getting As deserve to be in the magnet program or benefit from the magnet program. Grades are a reflection of many things other than ability to engage deeply and meaningfully with the material. Ask any parent of a 2e kid, for example.