What happened with the separation between church and state?

Anonymous
Look at this pastor using his church for political purposes. Can anybody tell me what language he is using to pray?

Anonymous
The pastor has every right to express his first amendment-protected beliefs. This has nothing to do with separation of church and state
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Look at this pastor using his church for political purposes. Can anybody tell me what language he is using to pray?



I think it's parseltongue.
Anonymous
For OP - what separation of church and state means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The pastor has every right to express his first amendment-protected beliefs. This has nothing to do with separation of church and state


To maintain their tax-exempt status, religious institutions should stay out of politics.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The pastor has every right to express his first amendment-protected beliefs. This has nothing to do with separation of church and state


He does but the long standing Federal tax policy has been that his church (assuming that is what he runs) needs to be non-partisan to remain tax exempt. Now Trump has proposed to remove that rule which would allow churches to jump into politics. I don't think praying for any particular politician would get you into trouble under the existing policy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The pastor has every right to express his first amendment-protected beliefs. This has nothing to do with separation of church and state


He does but the long standing Federal tax policy has been that his church (assuming that is what he runs) needs to be non-partisan to remain tax exempt. Now Trump has proposed to remove that rule which would allow churches to jump into politics. I don't think praying for any particular politician would get you into trouble under the existing policy.


Look at the non-sense he is spouting to his zombie followers starting with witchcraft (I agree, not political issue) and going all the way to deep state (right wing political concept).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For OP - what separation of church and state means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States


The vast majority of people do not understand what they think they understand. Bring back Civics 101.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For OP - what separation of church and state means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States


The vast majority of people do not understand what they think they understand. Bring back Civics 101.


+1. Really people. If you are going to make stupid statements, keep them to yourself. However as a PP mentioned, it may violate his federal tax exempt status, which I am fine with as long as it is taken away for ALL political speech that happens in religious places of tax exempt status.
Anonymous
So what about UU Churches and other churches who concentrate on social justice? Basically political issues?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So what about UU Churches and other churches who concentrate on social justice? Basically political issues?



You can claim any issue is political. My Catholic Church preaches against abortion and birth control. To me that’s political. Ah are UU issues special?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The pastor has every right to express his first amendment-protected beliefs. This has nothing to do with separation of church and state


To maintain their tax-exempt status, religious institutions should stay out of politics.



+1

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So what about UU Churches and other churches who concentrate on social justice? Basically political issues?



Only in an America dominated by hate spewing insecure evangelicals hiding behind Jesus would advocating for social justice be considered political. Do as my racist and ignorant southern ancestors did, not as Jesus preaches.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The pastor has every right to express his first amendment-protected beliefs. This has nothing to do with separation of church and state


To maintain their tax-exempt status, religious institutions should stay out of politics.


Except none of them do. So they should ALL lose that status.
Anonymous
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Really? And this is not the mixture of politics and religion?

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