rule about MAX classroom numbers in FCPS???

[Anonymous]

Is there such a rule? Just found out my kid's classroom is up to 31 kids with ONE teacher, as are all the other classes in her grade.
IS THIS ALLOWED??? We are new to FCPS and I'm just in shock and also clueless.

[Anonymous]

What grade?

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter13.2/section22.1-253.13:2/

[Anonymous]

I think the only capping is at Title 1 schools. 31 seems high even for FCPS, but I think in McLean/Vienna/Oakton these numbers do happen. DS has had 28 at the most and that was ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the only capping is at Title 1 schools. 31 seems high even for FCPS, but I think in McLean/Vienna/Oakton these numbers do happen. DS has had 28 at the most and that was ridiculous.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the only capping is at Title 1 schools. 31 seems high even for FCPS, but I think in McLean/Vienna/Oakton these numbers do happen. DS has had 28 at the most and that was ridiculous.

+1

Don't know if it is still the policy, but FCPS used to go even lower for Title I classes than required by the feds.
I think their classes should be smaller, I'm fine with that. However, if it means other schools have exorbitant class sizes, they need to rethink that policy.

Of course, all the special programs in schools lead to imbalance within the school on class sizes.

OP--do you know the size of the other classes in your school?

[Anonymous]

https://www.fcps.edu/index.php/policies-and-regulations

https://insys.fcps.edu/schoolboardapps/report_policy/cache/numeric-1000.htm

See regulation 1302

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there such a rule? Just found out my kid's classroom is up to 31 kids with ONE teacher, as are all the other classes in her grade.
IS THIS ALLOWED??? We are new to FCPS and I'm just in shock and also clueless.

My oldest had 34 in his 5th grade class almost ten years ago. They can be up to 35 in the upper ES grades.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there such a rule? Just found out my kid's classroom is up to 31 kids with ONE teacher, as are all the other classes in her grade.
IS THIS ALLOWED??? We are new to FCPS and I'm just in shock and also clueless.

My oldest had 34 in his 5th grade class almost ten years ago. They can be up to 35 in the upper ES grades.

that is effing absurd.

[Anonymous]

I think when our school hits 30 in a class, they try to add another class for that grade...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there such a rule? Just found out my kid's classroom is up to 31 kids with ONE teacher, as are all the other classes in her grade.
IS THIS ALLOWED??? We are new to FCPS and I'm just in shock and also clueless.

My oldest had 34 in his 5th grade class almost ten years ago. They can be up to 35 in the upper ES grades.

that is effing absurd.

It is still within the state minimums.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there such a rule? Just found out my kid's classroom is up to 31 kids with ONE teacher, as are all the other classes in her grade.
IS THIS ALLOWED??? We are new to FCPS and I'm just in shock and also clueless.

My oldest had 34 in his 5th grade class almost ten years ago. They can be up to 35 in the upper ES grades.

that is effing absurd.

It is still within the state minimums.

Yes, but not within FCPS mins anymore. Class Size Counts and other advocates worked to change it. See Reg. 1302.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there such a rule? Just found out my kid's classroom is up to 31 kids with ONE teacher, as are all the other classes in her grade.
IS THIS ALLOWED??? We are new to FCPS and I'm just in shock and also clueless.

My oldest had 34 in his 5th grade class almost ten years ago. They can be up to 35 in the upper ES grades.

that is effing absurd.

It is still within the state minimums.

Yes, but not within FCPS mins anymore. Class Size Counts and other advocates worked to change it. See Reg. 1302.

Those are ‘guidelines’ not rules and it pertains to core classes and instructional groupings. Homerooms are not core classes nor are they instructional groupings. The classes for the core classes probably have enough students pulled out for special ed to make them at or below the 29 student guideline for the them and for the instructional groupings.

The Principal is probably having trouble finding another teacher at this late date.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there such a rule? Just found out my kid's classroom is up to 31 kids with ONE teacher, as are all the other classes in her grade.
IS THIS ALLOWED??? We are new to FCPS and I'm just in shock and also clueless.

My oldest had 34 in his 5th grade class almost ten years ago. They can be up to 35 in the upper ES grades.

that is effing absurd.

It is still within the state minimums.

Yes, but not within FCPS mins anymore. Class Size Counts and other advocates worked to change it. See Reg. 1302.

Those are ‘guidelines’ not rules and it pertains to core classes and instructional groupings. Homerooms are not core classes nor are they instructional groupings. The classes for the core classes probably have enough students pulled out for special ed to make them at or below the 29 student guideline for the them and for the instructional groupings.

The Principal is probably having trouble finding another teacher at this late date.

Our school has a homeroom teacher that teaches core classes. Core classes are language arts, math, science, and social studies in elementary. I'm well aware that PE can have 60 kids because our school has done this. They are supposed to provide justification if they can't get classes under 30 for core subjects and provide an aide. For grades 1-3, it is state law to cap them at 30.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there such a rule? Just found out my kid's classroom is up to 31 kids with ONE teacher, as are all the other classes in her grade.
IS THIS ALLOWED??? We are new to FCPS and I'm just in shock and also clueless.

My oldest had 34 in his 5th grade class almost ten years ago. They can be up to 35 in the upper ES grades.

that is effing absurd.

It is still within the state minimums.

Yes, but not within FCPS mins anymore. Class Size Counts and other advocates worked to change it. See Reg. 1302.

Those are ‘guidelines’ not rules and it pertains to core classes and instructional groupings. Homerooms are not core classes nor are they instructional groupings. The classes for the core classes probably have enough students pulled out for special ed to make them at or below the 29 student guideline for the them and for the instructional groupings.

The Principal is probably having trouble finding another teacher at this late date.

Our school has a homeroom teacher that teaches core classes. Core classes are language arts, math, science, and social studies in elementary. I'm well aware that PE can have 60 kids because our school has done this. They are supposed to provide justification if they can't get classes under 30 for core subjects and provide an aide. For grades 1-3, it is state law to cap them at 30.

In the upper grades at our ES, they move from room to room for their core classes. The special ed teacher pulls different kids for different core subjects and aides go into the core classes too. So homerooms can exceed the 29 students but the core classes are still at or below and if they are above there is an aide in the room. PE, art, music, computers are not core classes. There is also a roaming resource teacher who generally teaches math for some grades, making the math classes smaller. Language arts generally has the most pulled for special ed, making the gen ed and AAP classes smaller.

There are different ways to structure the classes.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there such a rule? Just found out my kid's classroom is up to 31 kids with ONE teacher, as are all the other classes in her grade.
IS THIS ALLOWED??? We are new to FCPS and I'm just in shock and also clueless.

My oldest had 34 in his 5th grade class almost ten years ago. They can be up to 35 in the upper ES grades.

that is effing absurd.

It is still within the state minimums.

Yes, but not within FCPS mins anymore. Class Size Counts and other advocates worked to change it. See Reg. 1302.

Those are ‘guidelines’ not rules and it pertains to core classes and instructional groupings. Homerooms are not core classes nor are they instructional groupings. The classes for the core classes probably have enough students pulled out for special ed to make them at or below the 29 student guideline for the them and for the instructional groupings.

The Principal is probably having trouble finding another teacher at this late date.

Our school has a homeroom teacher that teaches core classes. Core classes are language arts, math, science, and social studies in elementary. I'm well aware that PE can have 60 kids because our school has done this. They are supposed to provide justification if they can't get classes under 30 for core subjects and provide an aide. For grades 1-3, it is state law to cap them at 30.

In the upper grades at our ES, they move from room to room for their core classes. The special ed teacher pulls different kids for different core subjects and aides go into the core classes too. So homerooms can exceed the 29 students but the core classes are still at or below and if they are above there is an aide in the room. PE, art, music, computers are not core classes. There is also a roaming resource teacher who generally teaches math for some grades, making the math classes smaller. Language arts generally has the most pulled for special ed, making the gen ed and AAP classes smaller.

There are different ways to structure the classes.

Each school structures their classes differently. Only way to find out is to check.