Ruling on MCPS LGBT curriculum case coming this morning

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The response email from MCPS losing the case was nearly as alarming as the policy and curriculum

Not surprised at all.

[Anonymous]

Joint Statement from the Montgomery County Board of Education and Montgomery County Public Schools Concerning Today’s Supreme Court Decision

Today, the Supreme Court of the United States issued an opinion in the case of MAHMOUD ET AL. v. TAYLOR ET AL. concerning the use of LGBTQ+ texts and opt-out processes for families. Although not surprised, we are disappointed in today’s ruling. This decision complicates our work creating a welcoming, inclusive, and equitable school system. It also sends a chilling message to many valued members of our diverse community.


Montgomery County Public Schools remains a welcoming and inclusive school system that embraces and celebrates each and every one of our students. We will maintain an environment where all students feel valued and supported. Equity is one of our core values and is foundational to who we are as a system that serves one of the most diverse communities in the United States of America.

We will continue to analyze the Supreme Court decision and develop next steps in alignment with today’s decision and, as importantly, our values. Schools and families will receive further guidance prior to the start of the upcoming school year. MCPS will continue to have inclusive books, which reflect the rich diversity of the students and families that we serve in Montgomery County.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:just let them stay home with excused absences. as long as they aren't creating a strain on school resources, go nuts. it's their education that they sacrifice.

yes, exactly. It's a win/win. Not sure why MCPS fought it so hard. There are kids who opt out of Family Life. Not a big deal.

i think it is because the religious were demanding alternative programming and babysitting for kids who can't be by themselves. If MCPS doesn't have to
provide that, then it's all good.

Another person didn’t bother me o read the case but still shoots off anyway. Doesn’t matter what you think. It matters what relief the parents sought. Allowing an excused absence would have saved so much time and money but now the County allowed things to be made much worse.

The county is not teaching respect and tolerance and this is segregation to separate kids. Parents have rights. You’d be upset if they choose a different direction to teach and you wanted different. The curriculum should be inclusive and it’s not.

You have no idea what I think about the curriculum because I didn’t post it. I observed that the poster doesn’t actually know the case details. It was a loser case and now makes things much more difficult for everyone.

The case showed how intolerant MCPS and some of the parents are about tolerance to others. They want tolerance and acceptance when it comes to their beliefs but not others. Thats not healthy for our kids. We live in a community with a huge amount of diversity and all that diversity should be respected, just not select groups.

What's up with these talking points about "if you don't welcome and support my bigotry you're intolerant"? I see this a lot... but it's just gotcha phrasing, and people don't actually believe this, do they? Like, obviously "I don't like Christians and don't want them in my school" is intolerant, but do these people actually honestly think it's "intolerant" to not accommodate everyone's prejudices by erasing the existence of people they're biased towards from schools, and if is somehow more "tolerant" to exclude any mention of certain kinds of people because someone doesn't like them?

The parents weren't asking for anyone to be erased, nor where they asking that the books be banned; they simply asked that their children be able to opt out, as they had previously, and still can for some classes.

That's it - the books aren't being banned.

Yes but the challenge that presents is that means folks can opt out of books for any reason. Which then means teachers have to prepare double lessons.

If a teacher is using the books they are reading then, using them to teach literary elements, comparing and contrasting. Families would be opting out of all those lessons.

Where do you think that would lead next?

Would you please stop referring to us as "folks." We are parents. We are not random "folks" who have no horse in this race.

Or, the teachers could simply drop the objectionable books in the first place and teach everyone the same lesson, from the same books. Now there's a novel idea. If you want to read to your 6 year old DD about how she may really be a boy, do that on your own time, at home.

Try to be a bit more inclusive. Some kids are not raised with parents and live with grandparents, other relatives, family friends, foster care, group homes, etc so folks is appropriate.

Not respecting their beliefs is the ultimate intolerance.

No. "Folks" is a derogatory, dismissive term currently in vogue with leftist activists who truly believe that everyone and everything is exactly alike.

I'm a mother. I'm a parent. I'm not a "folk."

No, it’s not and you need to get out of your bubble.

The only person here in a bubble is you, with your sock puppet posts. It's obvious that the vast majority of MCPS parents disagree with you. Just accept that and move on.

O, the majority who are decent people respect all view points and not just their own. You cannot preach inclusion, equity and all those buzz words and not respect their view points. Most parents are fed up with what MCPS is doing and want MCPS to just provide an education and not this nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Joint Statement from the Montgomery County Board of Education and Montgomery County Public Schools Concerning Today’s Supreme Court Decision

Today, the Supreme Court of the United States issued an opinion in the case of MAHMOUD ET AL. v. TAYLOR ET AL. concerning the use of LGBTQ+ texts and opt-out processes for families. Although not surprised, we are disappointed in today’s ruling. This decision complicates our work creating a welcoming, inclusive, and equitable school system. It also sends a chilling message to many valued members of our diverse community.


Montgomery County Public Schools remains a welcoming and inclusive school system that embraces and celebrates each and every one of our students. We will maintain an environment where all students feel valued and supported. Equity is one of our core values and is foundational to who we are as a system that serves one of the most diverse communities in the United States of America.

We will continue to analyze the Supreme Court decision and develop next steps in alignment with today’s decision and, as importantly, our values. Schools and families will receive further guidance prior to the start of the upcoming school year. MCPS will continue to have inclusive books, which reflect the rich diversity of the students and families that we serve in Montgomery County.

Except when it comes to these families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Joint Statement from the Montgomery County Board of Education and Montgomery County Public Schools Concerning Today’s Supreme Court Decision

Today, the Supreme Court of the United States issued an opinion in the case of MAHMOUD ET AL. v. TAYLOR ET AL. concerning the use of LGBTQ+ texts and opt-out processes for families. Although not surprised, we are disappointed in today’s ruling. This decision complicates our work creating a welcoming, inclusive, and equitable school system. It also sends a chilling message to many valued members of our diverse community.


Montgomery County Public Schools remains a welcoming and inclusive school system that embraces and celebrates each and every one of our students. We will maintain an environment where all students feel valued and supported. Equity is one of our core values and is foundational to who we are as a system that serves one of the most diverse communities in the United States of America.

We will continue to analyze the Supreme Court decision and develop next steps in alignment with today’s decision and, as importantly, our values. Schools and families will receive further guidance prior to the start of the upcoming school year. MCPS will continue to have inclusive books, which reflect the rich diversity of the students and families that we serve in Montgomery County.

What is there to analyze? They lost. No loopholes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Joint Statement from the Montgomery County Board of Education and Montgomery County Public Schools Concerning Today’s Supreme Court Decision

Today, the Supreme Court of the United States issued an opinion in the case of MAHMOUD ET AL. v. TAYLOR ET AL. concerning the use of LGBTQ+ texts and opt-out processes for families. Although not surprised, we are disappointed in today’s ruling. This decision complicates our work creating a welcoming, inclusive, and equitable school system. It also sends a chilling message to many valued members of our diverse community.


Montgomery County Public Schools remains a welcoming and inclusive school system that embraces and celebrates each and every one of our students. We will maintain an environment where all students feel valued and supported. Equity is one of our core values and is foundational to who we are as a system that serves one of the most diverse communities in the United States of America.

We will continue to analyze the Supreme Court decision and develop next steps in alignment with today’s decision and, as importantly, our values. Schools and families will receive further guidance prior to the start of the upcoming school year. MCPS will continue to have inclusive books, which reflect the rich diversity of the students and families that we serve in Montgomery County.

Inclusive unless you're religious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Joint Statement from the Montgomery County Board of Education and Montgomery County Public Schools Concerning Today’s Supreme Court Decision

Today, the Supreme Court of the United States issued an opinion in the case of MAHMOUD ET AL. v. TAYLOR ET AL. concerning the use of LGBTQ+ texts and opt-out processes for families. Although not surprised, we are disappointed in today’s ruling. This decision complicates our work creating a welcoming, inclusive, and equitable school system. It also sends a chilling message to many valued members of our diverse community.


Montgomery County Public Schools remains a welcoming and inclusive school system that embraces and celebrates each and every one of our students. We will maintain an environment where all students feel valued and supported. Equity is one of our core values and is foundational to who we are as a system that serves one of the most diverse communities in the United States of America.

We will continue to analyze the Supreme Court decision and develop next steps in alignment with today’s decision and, as importantly, our values. Schools and families will receive further guidance prior to the start of the upcoming school year. MCPS will continue to have inclusive books, which reflect the rich diversity of the students and families that we serve in Montgomery County.

Continue to have inclusive books? They did not learn that people don't want Uncle Bobby's bachelor wknd

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Joint Statement from the Montgomery County Board of Education and Montgomery County Public Schools Concerning Today’s Supreme Court Decision

Today, the Supreme Court of the United States issued an opinion in the case of MAHMOUD ET AL. v. TAYLOR ET AL. concerning the use of LGBTQ+ texts and opt-out processes for families. Although not surprised, we are disappointed in today’s ruling. This decision complicates our work creating a welcoming, inclusive, and equitable school system. It also sends a chilling message to many valued members of our diverse community.


Montgomery County Public Schools remains a welcoming and inclusive school system that embraces and celebrates each and every one of our students. We will maintain an environment where all students feel valued and supported. Equity is one of our core values and is foundational to who we are as a system that serves one of the most diverse communities in the United States of America.

We will continue to analyze the Supreme Court decision and develop next steps in alignment with today’s decision and, as importantly, our values. Schools and families will receive further guidance prior to the start of the upcoming school year. MCPS will continue to have inclusive books, which reflect the rich diversity of the students and families that we serve in Montgomery County.

What is there to analyze? They lost. No loopholes

They’re looking for a way to stigmatize the kids who are opted out and/or make it as difficult for the parents as they can.

Cool, keeping suing them .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Joint Statement from the Montgomery County Board of Education and Montgomery County Public Schools Concerning Today’s Supreme Court Decision

Today, the Supreme Court of the United States issued an opinion in the case of MAHMOUD ET AL. v. TAYLOR ET AL. concerning the use of LGBTQ+ texts and opt-out processes for families. Although not surprised, we are disappointed in today’s ruling. This decision complicates our work creating a welcoming, inclusive, and equitable school system. It also sends a chilling message to many valued members of our diverse community.


Montgomery County Public Schools remains a welcoming and inclusive school system that embraces and celebrates each and every one of our students. We will maintain an environment where all students feel valued and supported. Equity is one of our core values and is foundational to who we are as a system that serves one of the most diverse communities in the United States of America.

We will continue to analyze the Supreme Court decision and develop next steps in alignment with today’s decision and, as importantly, our values. Schools and families will receive further guidance prior to the start of the upcoming school year. MCPS will continue to have inclusive books, which reflect the rich diversity of the students and families that we serve in Montgomery County.

What is there to analyze? They lost. No loopholes

They’re looking for a way to stigmatize the kids who are opted out and/or make it as difficult for the parents as they can.

Cool, keeping suing them .

We will keep suing them and winning

Next the fed govt will gobble up their funding for their DEI nonsense

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The message that mcps just sent out to staff and families shows that mcps continues to miss the point.
I’d really like to know who drafted it.
“Chilling”

I thought their message was fine. What's the problem with saying "It also sends a chilling message to many valued members of our diverse community"?

You are failing to see the issue here.

MCPS = LGBTQ lobby

Court simply said that parents have right to opt out. MCPS allows opt out for lots of things. It does nto send any message to LGBTQ community. Only a LGBTQ lobby group will interepret court ruling like that.

The other things kids were opting out for were for older kids, and they could sit quietly in a room by themselves, but five-year-olds can’t.

The ruling actually gave MCPS and now they don’t have to keep the kids in school and find something else for them to do. They can make them stay home.

Nobody is going to leave kids of any age unsupervised in school. Are you familiar with school today? Kids of all ages can get sent to the media center/library.

Exactly. It’s a perfect compromise. Everyone should be happy.

So why isn’t the left?

Actually, the left is quite happy. The religious bigots stay home when they’re teaching elementary kids about everyone.

They can’t be sent to the library when they’re five years old. The librarian isn’t just sitting there waiting for your bigoted child to show up.

Parents will be notified and they will keep their kids home and get an unexcused absence.

The best of both worlds.

This isn't how it'll work. Opt out kids get to stay in school while the teacher reads Playgirl and teaches them about sex changes

Not for elementary school they’re too young to be in a room by themselves and the county doesn’t have enough staff to babysit religious bigots.

So you’re gonna have to put your religion first and stay home with your children to save them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:just let them stay home with excused absences. as long as they aren't creating a strain on school resources, go nuts. it's their education that they sacrifice.

yes, exactly. It's a win/win. Not sure why MCPS fought it so hard. There are kids who opt out of Family Life. Not a big deal.

i think it is because the religious were demanding alternative programming and babysitting for kids who can't be by themselves. If MCPS doesn't have to
provide that, then it's all good.

Another person didn’t bother me o read the case but still shoots off anyway. Doesn’t matter what you think. It matters what relief the parents sought. Allowing an excused absence would have saved so much time and money but now the County allowed things to be made much worse.

The county is not teaching respect and tolerance and this is segregation to separate kids. Parents have rights. You’d be upset if they choose a different direction to teach and you wanted different. The curriculum should be inclusive and it’s not.

You have no idea what I think about the curriculum because I didn’t post it. I observed that the poster doesn’t actually know the case details. It was a loser case and now makes things much more difficult for everyone.

The case showed how intolerant MCPS and some of the parents are about tolerance to others. They want tolerance and acceptance when it comes to their beliefs but not others. Thats not healthy for our kids. We live in a community with a huge amount of diversity and all that diversity should be respected, just not select groups.

What's up with these talking points about "if you don't welcome and support my bigotry you're intolerant"? I see this a lot... but it's just gotcha phrasing, and people don't actually believe this, do they? Like, obviously "I don't like Christians and don't want them in my school" is intolerant, but do these people actually honestly think it's "intolerant" to not accommodate everyone's prejudices by erasing the existence of people they're biased towards from schools, and if is somehow more "tolerant" to exclude any mention of certain kinds of people because someone doesn't like them?

The parents weren't asking for anyone to be erased, nor where they asking that the books be banned; they simply asked that their children be able to opt out, as they had previously, and still can for some classes.

That's it - the books aren't being banned.

Yes but the challenge that presents is that means folks can opt out of books for any reason. Which then means teachers have to prepare double lessons.

If a teacher is using the books they are reading then, using them to teach literary elements, comparing and contrasting. Families would be opting out of all those lessons.

Where do you think that would lead next?

An artificial problem created by activists in MCPS. A vast majority of non-regious families don't want all this LGBTQ talk for 5-6 years old kids. If any doubt, MCPS should run a survey about it and it will be clear.

Simple solution is to fire activists who are using taxpayers money for their agenda.

What about the books that just have married people… gay or straight? Or interracial couples? Why do you get to opt out of that?

What about books about child rape? Do we start showing that as well becaue it exists? There are tons of things not appropriate for 5-6 years old and just becasue it exist in world, we don't need to start teaching them.

There is time and place to talk about LGBTQ. 5-6 years old don't need to know individual lifestyle choices made by some folks.

Are you being willfully obtuse, or do you really not get how profoundly offensive it is to insist that knowledge of the existence of LGBTQ people is inappropriate for 5 and 6 year olds, and so the only kinds of people and families that should ever appear in their books are straight cis people and families? That kindergarteners and first graders should be effectively taught by implication that the only normal people and families are straight and cis, and so they and/or their family members who are LGBT are weird and abnormal? That it is okay to have families with straight parents in their books but there is something somehow wrong with having gay parents in books? If you honestly believe this, then fine, but don't drag the rest of us back to the dark ages with you, and don't sacrifice the well being of poor little kids to do it.

What's cis?

I speak English

Well, you would have to have taken biology in middle school or high school to know the term. Maybe that was past your education level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The message that mcps just sent out to staff and families shows that mcps continues to miss the point.
I’d really like to know who drafted it.
“Chilling”

I thought their message was fine. What's the problem with saying "It also sends a chilling message to many valued members of our diverse community"?

You are failing to see the issue here.

MCPS = LGBTQ lobby

Court simply said that parents have right to opt out. MCPS allows opt out for lots of things. It does nto send any message to LGBTQ community. Only a LGBTQ lobby group will interepret court ruling like that.

The other things kids were opting out for were for older kids, and they could sit quietly in a room by themselves, but five-year-olds can’t.

The ruling actually gave MCPS and now they don’t have to keep the kids in school and find something else for them to do. They can make them stay home.

Nobody is going to leave kids of any age unsupervised in school. Are you familiar with school today? Kids of all ages can get sent to the media center/library.

Exactly. It’s a perfect compromise. Everyone should be happy.

So why isn’t the left?

Actually, the left is quite happy. The religious bigots stay home when they’re teaching elementary kids about everyone.

They can’t be sent to the library when they’re five years old. The librarian isn’t just sitting there waiting for your bigoted child to show up.

Parents will be notified and they will keep their kids home and get an unexcused absence.

The best of both worlds.

This isn't how it'll work. Opt out kids get to stay in school while the teacher reads Playgirl and teaches them about sex changes

Not for elementary school they’re too young to be in a room by themselves and the county doesn’t have enough staff to babysit religious bigots.

So you’re gonna have to put your religion first and stay home with your children to save them.

How does the county handle opt-outs for family life and human sexuality?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Justice Alito put the smackdown on MCPS.

He actually said a religious zealots stay home.. you can opt out, but you cannot get public school education à la carte. You can’t get babysitters to watch your kids so you can be a bigot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The message that mcps just sent out to staff and families shows that mcps continues to miss the point.
I’d really like to know who drafted it.
“Chilling”

I thought their message was fine. What's the problem with saying "It also sends a chilling message to many valued members of our diverse community"?

You are failing to see the issue here.

MCPS = LGBTQ lobby

Court simply said that parents have right to opt out. MCPS allows opt out for lots of things. It does nto send any message to LGBTQ community. Only a LGBTQ lobby group will interepret court ruling like that.

The other things kids were opting out for were for older kids, and they could sit quietly in a room by themselves, but five-year-olds can’t.

The ruling actually gave MCPS and now they don’t have to keep the kids in school and find something else for them to do. They can make them stay home.

Nobody is going to leave kids of any age unsupervised in school. Are you familiar with school today? Kids of all ages can get sent to the media center/library.

Exactly. It’s a perfect compromise. Everyone should be happy.

So why isn’t the left?

Actually, the left is quite happy. The religious bigots stay home when they’re teaching elementary kids about everyone.

They can’t be sent to the library when they’re five years old. The librarian isn’t just sitting there waiting for your bigoted child to show up.

Parents will be notified and they will keep their kids home and get an unexcused absence.

The best of both worlds.

This isn't how it'll work. Opt out kids get to stay in school while the teacher reads Playgirl and teaches them about sex changes

Not for elementary school they’re too young to be in a room by themselves and the county doesn’t have enough staff to babysit religious bigots.

So you’re gonna have to put your religion first and stay home with your children to save them.

Guess they’ll have to fire some of the overpaid administrators to pay for additional staff to provide alternate instruction for kids who opt out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who really wants their kid to hang out with a trans kid anyway?

As long as they’re a good kid, I couldn’t care less.

But I still support this ruling.

I wouldn't. Speaks volumes to their parents who allow that nonsense. Bad people

I have no issue if my kid hangs out with trans kids and they do.

You will when your son hooks up with them

Here is where the bigotry comes in.. why would we care if our sons found somebody that loves them that is trans?