ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

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Anonymous wrote:It seems that this can go a couple of ways on the girls side:

- Either the girls get stronger because the top players from Union and Brave join FVU and weaker players go to other teams

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- Everyone freaks out and FVU loses top players because they're not willing to gamble on FVU working out. If you get an FVU offer, how can you be assured that a strong team is being built? There will need to be a lot of coordination among parents -- "are you staying?" "who is staying?"

There are now more asses than seats.

If you’re not currently a starter, you’re looking early. If you are a starter you’ll have a seat.

Non starters among BRAVE, Union and FCV will end up on one of the three GA squads.

Kids who are starters are not panicking. They aren’t enjoying any of this but they’ll find a team.

You may have a seat, but you may not have minutes. Retaining all starters is 22 kids. I think a lot of starters will be shopping around for new teams

Starters are relative. I had in a similar situation and went from bench, being cut to a starter on a much higher ranked team and hit a D1 spot.

Different coaches see different things. It’s why it’s more important to look at the player directly in front of you than any past glory or team placement. Boys change a lot 14-18.

+1M. This cannot be emphasized enough. If the coach changes, all bets are off. One of mine was generally regarded as the most talented player on their team, by coach, teammates, etc. New coach came in and it was 15 mins per game off the bench. Same thing happened to one of my DC’s best friends (different age group). Both left and ended up playing more minutes for better teams.

100+ I have a starter whose ECNL Coach left Fall season and went from starter, playing full minutes to riding the pine (this was not even a merger)--just a new Coach with same players.

He left and made a higher ranked team. But, I wouldn't be so cocky if as some of these posters. Game scores also don't represent individual player talent.

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Lots of insecurity is showing in all these posters spouting off their prediction and roster selection. lmaof

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of losers in this.

The immediate ones are the BRAVE kids on the 06/07 team. Not one of them could take out the top 20 Union players.

forgot to mention the BRAVE 09s, I don't see any of them breaking into Union's top 20.

There may be 2-3 in the 08s who will definitely compete with Union players for one of those top 20 spots, though.

I heard that the top 2-3 from Brave are heading to VDA

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Anonymous wrote:As we know, Virginia revolution has facilities and vision.

😂😂😂

^^^^^ Facilities, yes. Vision? They spend more time competing with Loudoun than on the field.

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For this alliance to have had a reasonable chance at success, it should have been announced months ago, not hastily the week before March 1 with no website or coaching slate. SYC has been scooping up players from all three of these clubs for a month now.

Add to that, team formation will be a political nightmare. You have to imagine that each ECNL team will need to have a few players from each club which means a less than optimal outcome if you are trying to put up the most competitive teams possible.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of losers in this.

The immediate ones are the BRAVE kids on the 06/07 team. Not one of them could take out the top 20 Union players.

forgot to mention the BRAVE 09s, I don't see any of them breaking into Union's top 20.

There may be 2-3 in the 08s who will definitely compete with Union players for one of those top 20 spots, though.

I heard that the top 2-3 from Brave are heading to VDA

Probably because that's the only way to get away from Brave coaches

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Virginia Union was SYC and McLean. Now that SYC is leaving, is it possible that Virginia Union couldn’t continue without a partner?

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of insecurity is showing in all these posters spouting off their prediction and roster selection. lmaof

Exactly. Top players are top players. Depth of position is the greatest factor for them.

Those in the middle? Yeah, different set of eyes and different coaching philosophy can make a sub a starter and a starter a sub.

But, lets be honest and look at that relativity a bit. If you are a sub on a bad team to the tune of 10 minutes a game, you should start looking. Are you a kid on a team with large rosters of +20? It's over.

Subs who split games on a good team? Beauty will be in the eye of the beholder.
Starters who split time? Beauty will be in the eye of the beholder.

Full game starters might end up split game starters at worst.

The relative quality of the team can play a role in this as well. A full game starter on a bad team might make you a split game starter or you are a stud on a bad team and you'll be fine.

The cream will rise one way or another.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of insecurity is showing in all these posters spouting off their prediction and roster selection. lmaof

So true, other than maybe VDA, none of these ECNL clubs should be saying players who won't make their rosters and will play GA or dilute GA rosters. Deaf, dumb and or blind you ECNL sheep still are. People, ECNL families will choose GA's player development model over this Alliance of the week ECNL is currently playing in NoVa, believe that! Your kid does not matter at all, is the messaging from ECNL. they are saying we know we are the best ticket in town for your girl to go to college and play soccer. No pathways for pro development, no pathway for equitable evalutions, trials in comparision to male couterparts. Just college is what ECNL is selling you. That is more than enough for most, don't get me wrongg, but if thats not enough for you, then its time to open your eyes parents. Maybe don't go to Revolution but certainly SYC is looking the most appealing outside of VDA, only becuase they have added a well known TD in BP, like him or not, you know he has connections. So VDA and SYC have at them, different parts of NoVa but one takes the East, the other the West, and Union just fails because of ECNL greed, and of course Arlington will always be there, being mediocre

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia Union was SYC and McLean. Now that SYC is leaving, is it possible that Virginia Union couldn’t continue without a partner?

Old parents in McLean stopped breeding. The pipeline really dried up in the younger age groups. They need an influx of children from other areas to field younger teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia Union was SYC and McLean. Now that SYC is leaving, is it possible that Virginia Union couldn’t continue without a partner?

Ding Ding! there is nothing else to say. Unless you believe that Brave players are the missing piece to Union sucess. Anyone in the know, knows the talent the last three years all came from Springfield. The question is how many return to SYC? Time will tell

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There may be 2-3 in the 08s who will definitely compete with Union players for one of those top 20 spots, though.

LOL

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McLean is a joke anyways, cannot hack it. Their girls coaching staff spread thin, hands in so many things no wonder the results are poor. All about the money at that club. Like watching a Gov't bail out because the clubs are struggling. Please do not include them in a club debate about development. They are bottom of the list, complete frauds!

Heard Manchester United is in talks with Man City to merge because they want trophies. CONFIRMED!!

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia Union was SYC and McLean. Now that SYC is leaving, is it possible that Virginia Union couldn’t continue without a partner?

McLean could have added DMV FC and GFR

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Anonymous wrote:Most Union girls families we know seem anxious to see the coaching slate. If there is a Union head coach the top players will stay and if there is a Brave head coach people will leave.

Funny. I am hearing the same thing from BRAVE parents. They also are waiting for the coaching slate and also want Union coaches. Possible exception for incoming 2012s.

They will be dissapointed by the slate. It will be 50/50 split with lots of co-coaching to make it palatable for the players. Bait and switch will happen as you find out which coach is the real head coach. Boys will be really disappointed Walker and Portillo are not going to stay and Boys Brave coaches are horrible. Kevin James is not going to coach. Neither is Clyde (although that might be a good thing).

+1 This is the worst of all possible outcomes for the boys' program. Two best ECNL coaches in the existing mix wont' be coaching? Boys will go from bad to worse for any U14 and up. But hey, NM is getting what he wants and the girls program will be OK, so NM and LW are happy, and who cares about the boys anyway?