Common Sense Gun Laws

[Anonymous]

“If the court adheres to a strict history-centric approach, as Thomas favors, it will likely strike down a federal law denying firearms to people under domestic violence restraining orders.

But Barrett recently foreshadowed that she is distancing herself from that approach. If she breaks with Thomas in the gun case, known as United States v. Rahimi, and if she can persuade at least one other conservative justice to join her, they could align with the court’s three liberals to uphold the gun control law.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/19/amy-coney-barrett-supreme-court-conservatives-rift-00164047

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guns aren't the problem. There are many places in the US where people have lots of guns with low crime rates.

The problem are criminals commit crimes at obscene rates. Lock up the criminals and watch crime drop. It's so simple everyone smarter than Fox Butterfield can understand.

And how do you handle the mentally ill slaughtering classrooms of children? Six year-olds watching their friends explode while waiting for their turn?

*crickets*

Gun lovers love to say "we don't have a gun problem, we have a mental health problem" yet when you then press them to deal with the mental health problem they slink out of the room. Or, "guns don't kill people, people kill people" yet when you want to make it harder for the people who kill people to get guns they start whining.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Assault weapons bans work, don’t let the NRA “culture issues” sway you. They work.

+1. They were banned before and should be banned again. It was fine.

How?

In today's Cargill/bump stock opinion, the following statement from
Sotomayor/Kagan/Jackson will have major implications for any attempted AR-15 ban cases. Their dissent reads: "Within a matter of minutes, using several hundred rounds of
ammunition, the [Las Vegas] shooter killed 58 people and wounded over 500. He did so by affixing bump stocks to COMMONLY AVAILABLE, SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES."

This statement in a precedent S.Ct case on firearms is a devastating legal admission by the left leaning members of our highest court that AR-15s are “commonly available.”

If you have read the Heller decision, the standard for a gun which CANNOT BE BANNED, is “in common use.”

Until you re-write the BOR, any attempt to ban the AR-15 is unconstitutional.

How about trying to put more criminals behind bars instead?

The Las Vegas shooter had no criminal record before he killed 58 people. Trying to put more criminals behind bars is a great idea, but how do you handle somebody who, at the time he purchased all those firearms, was a law-abiding citizen?

Um, you respect their freedom?

How would you,

“handle somebody who: publishes all those books? Goes to all those churches? Has all those abortions?“

I was responding to a PP who said "How about trying to put more criminals behind bars instead?" My point is that it's difficult to do that when the person doesn't become a criminal until they begin their mass shooting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assault weapons bans work, don’t let the NRA “culture issues” sway you. They work.

+1. They were banned before and should be banned again. It was fine.

How?

In today's Cargill/bump stock opinion, the following statement from
Sotomayor/Kagan/Jackson will have major implications for any attempted AR-15 ban cases. Their dissent reads: "Within a matter of minutes, using several hundred rounds of
ammunition, the [Las Vegas] shooter killed 58 people and wounded over 500. He did so by affixing bump stocks to COMMONLY AVAILABLE, SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES."

This statement in a precedent S.Ct case on firearms is a devastating legal admission by the left leaning members of our highest court that AR-15s are “commonly available.”

If you have read the Heller decision, the standard for a gun which CANNOT BE BANNED, is “in common use.”

Until you re-write the BOR, any attempt to ban the AR-15 is unconstitutional.

How about trying to put more criminals behind bars instead?

How exactly is it unconstitutional? The previous AWB wasn't ruled to be unconstitutional. You still are able to buy any number of other types of semi-auto rifles and firearms in common use, so you aren't being infringed. And, just because a previous court ruled a certain way in Heller doesn't mean it's a decision that can't be changed by the legislature or other future actions. Remember, Roe was also "settled law" per a supreme court decision, only to be overturned.

+1. Constitutional is determined by SCOTUS and as we have all seen, those determinations can change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guns aren't the problem. There are many places in the US where people have lots of guns with low crime rates.

The problem are criminals commit crimes at obscene rates. Lock up the criminals and watch crime drop. It's so simple everyone smarter than Fox Butterfield can understand.

And how do you handle the mentally ill slaughtering classrooms of children? Six year-olds watching their friends explode while waiting for their turn?

*crickets*

Gun lovers love to say "we don't have a gun problem, we have a mental health problem" yet when you then press them to deal with the mental health problem they slink out of the room. Or, "guns don't kill people, people kill people" yet when you want to make it harder for the people who kill people to get guns they start whining.

Never should have shut down the psychiatric hospitals, many of the people who commit mass murder are exhibiting signs of mental illness but current laws give them to many rights.

Family and others try to get them the care they need but without their consent the system is powerless to help them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guns aren't the problem. There are many places in the US where people have lots of guns with low crime rates.

The problem are criminals commit crimes at obscene rates. Lock up the criminals and watch crime drop. It's so simple everyone smarter than Fox Butterfield can understand.

And how do you handle the mentally ill slaughtering classrooms of children? Six year-olds watching their friends explode while waiting for their turn?

*crickets*

Gun lovers love to say "we don't have a gun problem, we have a mental health problem" yet when you then press them to deal with the mental health problem they slink out of the room. Or, "guns don't kill people, people kill people" yet when you want to make it harder for the people who kill people to get guns they start whining.

Never should have shut down the psychiatric hospitals, many of the people who commit mass murder are exhibiting signs of mental illness but current laws give them to many rights.

Family and others try to get them the care they need but without their consent the system is powerless to help them.

We don't need to lock up thousands of innocent patients in truly horrific institutions to so that you can run around with ridiculous weapons.

Improve the mental health system and get rid of a lot of these weapons.amd the same time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guns aren't the problem. There are many places in the US where people have lots of guns with low crime rates.

The problem are criminals commit crimes at obscene rates. Lock up the criminals and watch crime drop. It's so simple everyone smarter than Fox Butterfield can understand.

And how do you handle the mentally ill slaughtering classrooms of children? Six year-olds watching their friends explode while waiting for their turn?

*crickets*

Gun lovers love to say "we don't have a gun problem, we have a mental health problem" yet when you then press them to deal with the mental health problem they slink out of the room. Or, "guns don't kill people, people kill people" yet when you want to make it harder for the people who kill people to get guns they start whining.

Never should have shut down the psychiatric hospitals, many of the people who commit mass murder are exhibiting signs of mental illness but current laws give them to many rights.

Family and others try to get them the care they need but without their consent the system is powerless to help them.

We don't need to lock up thousands of innocent patients in truly horrific institutions to so that you can run around with ridiculous weapons.

Improve the mental health system and get rid of a lot of these weapons.amd the same time.

That's what a future generation will do. It's inevitable. The current generation has sold themselves out to evil so that they can retain their right to cosplay playing soldier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assault weapons bans work, don’t let the NRA “culture issues” sway you. They work.

+1. They were banned before and should be banned again. It was fine.

+2. There should be another ban. I have yet to see any demonstration of real harm that befell anyone as a result of the AWB.

Being deprived of your human rights is a pretty serious harm.

Get over it. The left needs to pay off enough SCOTUS justices and poof...2A will all of a sudden mean something very different.

You still have the right even if the 2A is gone. The Bill of Rights does not grant anything, that’s why they’re called natural rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assault weapons bans work, don’t let the NRA “culture issues” sway you. They work.

+1. They were banned before and should be banned again. It was fine.

+2. There should be another ban. I have yet to see any demonstration of real harm that befell anyone as a result of the AWB.

Being deprived of your human rights is a pretty serious harm.

Get over it. The left needs to pay off enough SCOTUS justices and poof...2A will all of a sudden mean something very different.

You still have the right even if the 2A is gone. The Bill of Rights does not grant anything, that’s why they’re called natural rights.

Deciding what to do with your uterus is a natural right. Strutting around with an AK 15 is not a natural right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assault weapons bans work, don’t let the NRA “culture issues” sway you. They work.

+1. They were banned before and should be banned again. It was fine.

+2. There should be another ban. I have yet to see any demonstration of real harm that befell anyone as a result of the AWB.

Being deprived of your human rights is a pretty serious harm.

Get over it. The left needs to pay off enough SCOTUS justices and poof...2A will all of a sudden mean something very different.

You still have the right even if the 2A is gone. The Bill of Rights does not grant anything, that’s why they’re called natural rights.

Deciding what to do with your uterus is a natural right. Strutting around with an AK 15 is not a natural right.

You’re free to believe that. However, millions of people disagree with you and already have them. I guess you’ll just have to peacefully coexist with people who are different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assault weapons bans work, don’t let the NRA “culture issues” sway you. They work.

+1. They were banned before and should be banned again. It was fine.

+2. There should be another ban. I have yet to see any demonstration of real harm that befell anyone as a result of the AWB.

Being deprived of your human rights is a pretty serious harm.

Get over it. The left needs to pay off enough SCOTUS justices and poof...2A will all of a sudden mean something very different.

You still have the right even if the 2A is gone. The Bill of Rights does not grant anything, that’s why they’re called natural rights.

Deciding what to do with your uterus is a natural right. Strutting around with an AK 15 is not a natural right.

You’re free to believe that. However, millions of people disagree with you and already have them. I guess you’ll just have to peacefully coexist with people who are different.

I guess you will have to peacefully coexist with people that make their own decisions about their uteruses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assault weapons bans work, don’t let the NRA “culture issues” sway you. They work.

+1. They were banned before and should be banned again. It was fine.

+2. There should be another ban. I have yet to see any demonstration of real harm that befell anyone as a result of the AWB.

Being deprived of your human rights is a pretty serious harm.

Get over it. The left needs to pay off enough SCOTUS justices and poof...2A will all of a sudden mean something very different.

You still have the right even if the 2A is gone. The Bill of Rights does not grant anything, that’s why they’re called natural rights.

Deciding what to do with your uterus is a natural right. Strutting around with an AK 15 is not a natural right.

You’re free to believe that. However, millions of people disagree with you and already have them. I guess you’ll just have to peacefully coexist with people who are different.

I guess you will have to peacefully coexist with people that make their own decisions about their uteruses.

This thread is about gun control. Would you like to know my opinions about coffee while we’re at it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assault weapons bans work, don’t let the NRA “culture issues” sway you. They work.

+1. They were banned before and should be banned again. It was fine.

+2. There should be another ban. I have yet to see any demonstration of real harm that befell anyone as a result of the AWB.

Being deprived of your human rights is a pretty serious harm.

Get over it. The left needs to pay off enough SCOTUS justices and poof...2A will all of a sudden mean something very different.

You still have the right even if the 2A is gone. The Bill of Rights does not grant anything, that’s why they’re called natural rights.

Deciding what to do with your uterus is a natural right. Strutting around with an AK 15 is not a natural right.

You’re free to believe that. However, millions of people disagree with you and already have them. I guess you’ll just have to peacefully coexist with people who are different.

I guess you will have to peacefully coexist with people that make their own decisions about their uteruses.

This thread is about gun control. Would you like to know my opinions about coffee while we’re at it?

only if coffee is a natural right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assault weapons bans work, don’t let the NRA “culture issues” sway you. They work.

+1. They were banned before and should be banned again. It was fine.

+2. There should be another ban. I have yet to see any demonstration of real harm that befell anyone as a result of the AWB.

Being deprived of your human rights is a pretty serious harm.

Get over it. The left needs to pay off enough SCOTUS justices and poof...2A will all of a sudden mean something very different.

You still have the right even if the 2A is gone. The Bill of Rights does not grant anything, that’s why they’re called natural rights.

Deciding what to do with your uterus is a natural right. Strutting around with an AK 15 is not a natural right.

You’re free to believe that. However, millions of people disagree with you and already have them. I guess you’ll just have to peacefully coexist with people who are different.

I guess you will have to peacefully coexist with people that make their own decisions about their uteruses.

This thread is about gun control. Would you like to know my opinions about coffee while we’re at it?

only if coffee is a natural right.

PP. Honestly I’ve gotta hand it to you that was pretty funny

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assault weapons bans work, don’t let the NRA “culture issues” sway you. They work.

+1. They were banned before and should be banned again. It was fine.

+2. There should be another ban. I have yet to see any demonstration of real harm that befell anyone as a result of the AWB.

Being deprived of your human rights is a pretty serious harm.

Get over it. The left needs to pay off enough SCOTUS justices and poof...2A will all of a sudden mean something very different.

A court decision would be toothless when it comes to prying guns out of people’s hands. Your dream is just that. Will never happen.