Common Sense Gun Laws
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Anonymous
The topic of the thread is common sense gun laws. Criminals don’t follow laws. Red and blue states don’t matter- criminals don’t followed laws in any state. The only people that follow gun laws are law abiding citizens. The people in the video are in a blue state. The neighborhood people say gunshots are heard at all hours of the day and night. Where are the police? Why aren’t they arresting those criminals? |
Anonymous
The problem is that a lot of supposed "good guys with guns" don't follow laws either. They sell guns to people who shouldn't have them. Let people who shouldn't have them borrow guns. They leave their guns unsecured so that people who shouldn't have them can easily get them or steal them. The problem isn't just the criminals. |
Anonymous
Anonymous
Good guys don’t illegally sell guns to people. Good guys don’t let scumbags borrow their guns. (the Trump assassin borrowed his dad’s gun, and when he didn’t come home, dad notified law enforcement.) People leave their guns in locked cars and scumbags break through windows to steal the guns. That’s the #1 way bad guys get guns, btw. Breaking the glass out of law abiding citizen’s cars and stealing their guns. Quit blaming responsible law abiding Americans for scumbag criminals being scumbag criminals. Like the scumbag criminals in the video opening fire on a neighbor street a not a single arrest reported. |
Anonymous
WRONG. Gun owners do those things all the time, they buy and sell guns via private deals without background checks, and so on. You people try to pretend that criminals only get guns by stealing them but a Federal Bureau of Prisons study of inmates who were incarcerated for gun crimes found that less than 20% of the guns they obtained were stolen. It's NOT the #1 way bad guys get guns. The majority of bad guys get guns by exploiting the loopholes, using private sales and so on. Also, a "responsible" gun owner DOESN'T LEAVE A GUN IN THEIR CAR. That's irresponsible. Stop pretending gun owners are responsible and law abiding. |
Anonymous
What do you think of the men shooting in the video? Any comment about their behavior? |
Anonymous
You think you’re going to get posters here to say something critical of the men in that video? Yeah that’s not gonna happen. |
Anonymous
Here is where criminals get there guns - https://gunviolence.issuelab.org/resources/30185/30185.pdf so it is a few bad dealers that everyone knows about that supply most of the guns used in crime. Wonder why those dealers aren’t put out of business. Guess that would make control less of an issue. Responsible gun owners sometimes have to lock guns in vehicles because sometimes they have to go drop something at the post office (guns prohibited) or pick their sick child up from school (no guns) or pick up something on the way home from work and the store has a no-gun policy. So, remove the sensitive places and responsible gun owners can keep their guns on them where they belong. Problems solved. Your welcome. |
Anonymous
Bad gun dealers have the protection of the NRA and the GOP, which is why they aren't being stopped - and the better answer would be to end our weak gun laws and stop constantly giving in to the NRA, letting criminals have guns which creates the environment where people might feel inclined to want to carry a gun on them 24x7. |
Anonymous
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Here's the Bureau of Prisons study -
Top sources of guns used by criminals: Bought via underground market 43.2% Bought/traded/borrowed/given to them by someone 25.3% Other - brought by someone else, etc 17.4% Legally purchased 10.1% Stolen is all the way down at 6.4%. https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/suficspi16.pdf Things like universal mandatory background checks and ability to track movement of guns via persistent searchable database would take away a good 80% plus of the pathways for criminals to get guns. |
Anonymous
| 13/50 |
Anonymous
Track movement? Your “persistent searchable database” will lead from the crime-gun recovery to the original purchaser, and stop there with nothing in between. The authorities seem to have no trouble accomplishing that now. Your thesis also ignores the smuggling solution. The same people who bring in tons of illicit narcotics will be more than happy to ship firearms. |
Anonymous
When coupled with mandatory universal background checks, when you then trace it, the last guy to show up in the records is the one who moved it into the criminal underground. Couple it with a law that says you must report lost or stolen guns, and there's no out. Might be able to get away with saying you lost guns or had them stolen ONCE but after that if you want to claim you lost guns or had them stolen AGAIN then AT BEST you are an irresponsible gun owner who shouldn't have had guns in the first place, and at worst you are an accessory to the crime for having supplied the gun to the criminals whether directly or indirectly. |
Anonymous
| We can enact all the gun laws we want. The laws will never, ever completely remove illegal weapons from the hands of criminals who require them to commit their crimes. A gun is as necessary as a smartphone to them. Ban guns and you will still hear gunshots ringing out across certain neighborhoods in cities across the country. |
Anonymous
Ridiculous. Just because we can't eliminate 100% of them doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't try. We could easily get rid of 95% of the illegal guns and make the streets a hell of a lot safer. Same way that seat belts and airbags and crumple zones made cars a hell of a lot safer. Yes, collisions still happen but you're a lot more likely to survive it. |