Another gunman, another elementary school

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Anonymous wrote:Reports that the shooter was bullied mercilessly at school due to a lisp and stutter. More red flags.

Maybe he was rejected by his classmates and peers for being an evil psychopath.

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Anonymous wrote:Gun control. NOW.

How about we make murder illegal? Oh wait, it already is

So, why bother making murder illegal. Is that your logic?

How many school shootings have there been in the UK?
Ireland?
CANADA?
Australia?
New Zealand?

? not sure what your point is, but those countries have very strict gun control, at least I know in the UK they do. My spouse is from there.

But to answer your question -- many already have posted a chart showing how the US is far and above all other countries, including 3rd world countries, in terms of the number of school shootings.

Yes I know that was my point. I was responding to some dingbat saying 'well murder is already illegal' dur dur dur
Same BS that Ammosexuals bring up all the time. Along with 'then make cars and scissors illegal' freaking idiots

oh, yes. It's the same stupid logic... "murder is illegal but it doesn't stop murders..so we don't need more murder laws, right"? Then why bother making murder illegal. Heck, why bother having laws since someone will break the law.

We have speeding laws, but most people speed. Why have speeding laws?
We have theft laws, but we still have theft. Why have theft laws?
We have anti-corruption laws, but look at how many corrupt people there are. So, why bother having corruption law.

I mean, why bother having *ANY* law, per that ammosexual's logic.

But we do have gun laws, and criminals and mentally ill people break them. Keeping guns out of the hands of law abiding, sane citizens will not fix the problem. Crack down on real criminals would be one way to get started. But instead, we're doing the complete opposite.

Why do sane, law abiding citizens need machine guns? Maybe sane, law abiding citizens should also be allowed to have nuclear weapons. To me it is equivalent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A total gun ban isn’t happening in our lifetime, so just forget it.

A few things I think would be beneficial:

1) No personal sales of assault rifles/automatic weapons
2) Increase age to purchase any gun for personal use to >21
3) No social media for those under 18. Perhaps the companies can ban/screen, but parents will ultimately have to monitor this to ensure compliance

None of these would be upheld as constitutional. A federal appeals court just struck down a California ban restricting certain sales to those 21 and older. A Trump appointee waxed on about the sacrifices of young men during the Revolutionary War. A trial court struck down an assault weapons ban in California last year. The ban on large capacity magazines was reinstated by a court, for now.

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Anonymous wrote:Reports that the shooter was bullied mercilessly at school due to a lisp and stutter. More red flags.

Maybe he was rejected by his classmates and peers for being an evil psychopath.

Write whatever narrative brings you comfort. Bullied, incel man-children with guns are a real and present danger.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A total gun ban isn’t happening in our lifetime, so just forget it.

A few things I think would be beneficial:

1) No personal sales of assault rifles/automatic weapons
2) Increase age to purchase any gun for personal use to >21
3) No social media for those under 18. Perhaps the companies can ban/screen, but parents will ultimately have to monitor this to ensure compliance

None of these would be upheld as constitutional. A federal appeals court just struck down a California ban restricting certain sales to those 21 and older. A Trump appointee waxed on about the sacrifices of young men during the Revolutionary War. A trial court struck down an assault weapons ban in California last year. The ban on large capacity magazines was reinstated by a court, for now.

Ammosexuals Unite! MAGA Rules!

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Anonymous wrote:Gun control. NOW.

How about we make murder illegal? Oh wait, it already is

So, why bother making murder illegal. Is that your logic?

How many school shootings have there been in the UK?
Ireland?
CANADA?
Australia?
New Zealand?

? not sure what your point is, but those countries have very strict gun control, at least I know in the UK they do. My spouse is from there.

But to answer your question -- many already have posted a chart showing how the US is far and above all other countries, including 3rd world countries, in terms of the number of school shootings.

Yes I know that was my point. I was responding to some dingbat saying 'well murder is already illegal' dur dur dur
Same BS that Ammosexuals bring up all the time. Along with 'then make cars and scissors illegal' freaking idiots

oh, yes. It's the same stupid logic... "murder is illegal but it doesn't stop murders..so we don't need more murder laws, right"? Then why bother making murder illegal. Heck, why bother having laws since someone will break the law.

We have speeding laws, but most people speed. Why have speeding laws?
We have theft laws, but we still have theft. Why have theft laws?
We have anti-corruption laws, but look at how many corrupt people there are. So, why bother having corruption law.

I mean, why bother having *ANY* law, per that ammosexual's logic.

But we do have gun laws, and criminals and mentally ill people break them. Keeping guns out of the hands of law abiding, sane citizens will not fix the problem. Crack down on real criminals would be one way to get started. But instead, we're doing the complete opposite.

Why do sane, law abiding citizens need machine guns? Maybe sane, law abiding citizens should also be allowed to have nuclear weapons. To me it is equivalent.

I pay my taxes. Why can't have a ground-to-air stinger missile launcher? #MyFreedom

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Anonymous wrote:Reports that the shooter was bullied mercilessly at school due to a lisp and stutter. More red flags.

Maybe he was rejected by his classmates and peers for being an evil psychopath.

Write whatever narrative brings you comfort. Bullied, incel man-children with guns are a real and present danger.

Yes, they are.

Can we stop with the anti-bullying campaigns at schools? People have made a fortune from those. Maybe some kids deserve to be red-flagged for being weird.

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Anonymous wrote:What can I do TODAY to move the needle so that this does not happen again? Write someone? Who?!

Nobody here wants to do a single thing new to protect child safety at school unless it's a form of gun control law (that may never become law).

So, in the meantime, a sure way to prevent our kids from being shot at school is to not attend school. Can home school. If all kids were home schooled, there would be zero school shootings.

Nothing is stopping us from increasing school security.

Everyone agrees on that.

Why not start there? We could start that today.

THE KILLER WAS BEING CHASED BY ARMED LAW ENFORCEMENT AND STILL MANAGED TO MURDER 20 PEOPLE.

Why is body armor even sold to people online? It should be manufactured and distributed for only those who require it for jobs.
More security at schools.
GUN CONTROL IS IMPERATIVE.

[Anonymous]

GUN CONTROL IS IMPERATIVE.

The term is Massacre Reduction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So now schools - in addition to providing all mental health services, social work services, education, all three meals in some instances - are now tasked with stopping the very people trying to kill them all within the building? That's a solution?? Make them figure out a way to protect themselves from mass shooters? Is there no task we're not willing to put on the school's shoulders?

No. The government should shoulder the expense. Gun control is the needed, but why not beef up trying to stop these events?

[Anonymous]

Maybe we we get steel schools doors, and then make double doors and put bars on the windows, and add a metal detector, and add armed officers patrolling the school perimeter and only let students out in protected court yard during recess...

maybe we should imprison our school kids so some white male redneck can keep his AR-15 in his trailer?

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Anonymous wrote:Reports that the shooter was bullied mercilessly at school due to a lisp and stutter. More red flags.

Maybe he was rejected by his classmates and peers for being an evil psychopath.

Write whatever narrative brings you comfort. Bullied, incel man-children with guns are a real and present danger.

Yes, they are.

Can we stop with the anti-bullying campaigns at schools? People have made a fortune from those. Maybe some kids deserve to be red-flagged for being weird.

That's utterly the wrong takeaway here. This shooter was failed by a number of people in his life, particularly his drug addicted mother, and it seems that for the past five years or so, he's been on a steady downward spiral with no one to stop it. The fact that this country allows a kid like this to walk into a store and buy high capacity magazines is an unspeakable tragedy. Maybe this kid was just a sociopath from birth, and utterly unredeemable. Or maybe if he hadn't been able to buy those guns, he could have gotten some help and turned his life around in some way. We'll never know. We do know that he was allowed to take the lives of 19 other people -- and permanently scar dozens or hundreds of others--because this County as collectively unwilling to say that a teen should not have a gun like this.

[Anonymous]

maybe we should imprison our school kids so some white male redneck can keep his AR-15 in his trailer?

Y'all cain't take away mah freedom.

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Anonymous wrote:Reports that the shooter was bullied mercilessly at school due to a lisp and stutter. More red flags.

Maybe he was rejected by his classmates and peers for being an evil psychopath.

Write whatever narrative brings you comfort. Bullied, incel man-children with guns are a real and present danger.

Yes, they are.

Can we stop with the anti-bullying campaigns at schools? People have made a fortune from those. Maybe some kids deserve to be red-flagged for being weird.

By all means, segregate anyone who meets your criteria for “weird.” Does that include LGBTQ+? Kids who play D&D? Kids who are autistic? Kids with gender dysphoria? Tell us more.

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Anonymous wrote:Reports that the shooter was bullied mercilessly at school due to a lisp and stutter. More red flags.

Maybe he was rejected by his classmates and peers for being an evil psychopath.

Write whatever narrative brings you comfort. Bullied, incel man-children with guns are a real and present danger.

Yes, they are.

Can we stop with the anti-bullying campaigns at schools? People have made a fortune from those. Maybe some kids deserve to be red-flagged for being weird.

That's utterly the wrong takeaway here. This shooter was failed by a number of people in his life, particularly his drug addicted mother, and it seems that for the past five years or so, he's been on a steady downward spiral with no one to stop it. The fact that this country allows a kid like this to walk into a store and buy high capacity magazines is an unspeakable tragedy. Maybe this kid was just a sociopath from birth, and utterly unredeemable. Or maybe if he hadn't been able to buy those guns, he could have gotten some help and turned his life around in some way. We'll never know. We do know that he was allowed to take the lives of 19 other people -- and permanently scar dozens or hundreds of others--because this County as collectively unwilling to say that a teen should not have a gun like this.

Agree. It boggles my mind that anyone can just purchase this type of gun to begin with, but it REALLY boggles my mind that an 18yo who cannot purchase a beer or rent a car is allowed to not only purchase these kinds of weapons, but all that body armor as well. I’m sure someone will say, oh if he couldnt purchase it legally he would have found another way to murder 20 people. Maybe, but it sure as heck would have been harder.