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Her ancient history follows and establishes a clear pattern. She's her mother's daughter, that's for sure... |
I find this unfair to both parties. Neither are lawyers and they may not even fully understand the legal arguments. Blake is being sued for defamation for her claims of sexual harassment. If there's literally a law that protects her from that type of lawsuit for that type of claim, of course her team is going to invoke it. As to Wallace, it's dicier - she's not claiming he harassed her, but that he participated in retaliation for harassment, so there's going to be issues of whether he participated knowingly (if he is found to have participated at all) and then whether the law applies that broadly. In her particular case, there may be a stronger nexus between the alleged harassment and the alleged retaliation than is typical (the idea being to destroy her credibility precisely because she may speak out). I can see why her lawyers made the argument. It very well might fail, but I'm not surprised they made it. For Justin, of course he is going to argue that this law doesn't apply. His lawyers have several theories, which is normal. One of those arguments is that the law is unconstitutional. Another is specific to Lively. The law doesn't cover sexual harassment claims made with malice, and he of course is arguing that her claims were fabricated or grossly distorted, and therefore not covered by the law. Those are good arguments to make. If he wasn't the first to make the constitutionality argument, someone else would have (maybe they have in some pending case that hasn't been ruled on). If the courts were inclined to rule it unconstitutional, then it would happen eventually. It won't be either of their fault. |
Here’s why I don’t think it’s that simple in Lively’s case. Arguing that California law should apply is a stretch for her complaint against Wayfarer—even Ryan wants NY law to apply for his case. Blake lives in NY and the alleged harassment happened in NY and NJ. This is different from Wayfarer’s defamation claim where CA law makes the most sense. She’s clearly forum shopping, which courts don’t like btw. You don’t have to forum shop when you have the facts on your side. She specifically has set her sights on 47.1 because of the unique protection it provides and she’ll be its downfall. |
Maybe post links if you’re going to make claims. Credible links. |
I thought Blake's contract with Wayfarer was governed by CA law. Of course we have yet to see this magical contract and there may be issues if she hadn't signed it at the relevant times her claims accrued. |
Right, the irony of using the contract she never signed to get protection that really wasn’t intended for people like her, but for actual victims of SH in a state where she does not live. That’s also why she filed the CRD in CA, to gain jurisdiction there. |
Baldoni fans say rules for thee but not for me of course. |
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The Washington Post has an interesting article today about intimacy coordinators. It only mentions Blake and Justin in passing, but worth a read for anyone who is interested in this aspect of the case.
https://wapo.st/4jqRVR3 I thought the end of the article was really interesting, where the IC they interviewed talked about filming a sex scene where something was added that some people might find upsetting or disturbing, and the IC checked with the crew and camera operators to make sure they were okay participating. I'm a huge proponent of consent in all things, and I had never thought about how a camera operator might feel about filming certain sex scenes. It's a good reminder of how ICs are about more than just one or two actors -- filming a sex or nude scene is a very collaborative activity with a lot of people involved and I can see why wanting someone there whose job it is to ensure that everyone is participating consensually could be really valuable. |
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Yeah. But when an actor declines the use of an intimacy coordinator, then that should be viewed as consenting to an ‘ad lib’ effect because you decided against that objective screen.
It’s one thing if an act is called uncomfortable with an objective body there, overseeing the act and helping to improve discomfort; It’s quite another when you decline to have that objective body present, but then complain that unscripted actions made you uncomfortable, and then proceed to incorporate an unscripted act into another movie, Ean act that was even more uncomfortable, but you dismiss it as playful ‘ad libing.’ I’m sure Henry G did not feel comfortable with his crotch being grabbed unannounced. |
When did Lively decline to have an IC present on set during a scene, as opposed to declining a pre-shooting meeting with the IC? My understanding is that a big part of her 17 point list was insisting that an IC would be present for the rest of the film. Showing that the Baldoni and Wayfarer were not having an IC present when Baldoni was attempting to insert kissing in scenes that didn’t have any scripted kissing, for example. You just dislike her so much you are making stuff up. |
Just want to debunk the idea that Lively declined to have an IC on the IEWU. This did not happen. From Baldoni's own timeline, he reached out to Lively before filming began to let her know he'd already hired an IC and said he wanted to set up a Zoom call between the IC and Blake. Blake replies that she is "comfortable" and will meet the IC on "when we start" which obviously means when they start filming. At no point did Lively say she didn't want an IC and in fact she is enthusiastic about Baldoni hiring one and expresses a positive attitude about working with the IC on the film. All of this is from Baldoni's own timeline, not Lively's pleadings. So unless Justin and Wayfarer are falsifying text messages, Lively did NOT decline an IC and expressed interest/enthusiasm about having one on set. |
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Whatever. She declined to meet with the coach. She lied about the rooftop scene. The stain of her bullshit will never leave Blake Lively.
How’d A Simple Plan 2: Liars Gotta Eat Too so again? |
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I listened to that old beyond the blinds podcast about Blake because someone on another thread here had mentioned it. It’s from well before it ends with us, and wow is it unflattering.
Apparently she had a reputation as a “casting couch girl.” Also, Harrison ford apparently treated her really badly on the set of the age of Adeline, saying “this is why you don’t hire people who can’t act just because of who they married”. Blake was taking acting lessons and everything but couldn’t meet his expectations. There’s lots of other stories, so you’ll have to listen yourself if interested, but it did raise two things for me. First, given all of her on set romances, including with married men and including while she was married, it does make me wonder about the fan theory that she had a thing for Justin and was a bit insulted when he didn’t reciprocate. The other thing I thought was “why Justin”? Out of all of these men who treated her really badly like Harrison Ford, what made Justin the one she wanted to go after. Almost makes me think she’s taking out her past trauma on him. Like she said “no more” as she alleges in her 30 point complaint but really she was thinking about all the men who had disrespected her in the past so by the time she crossed paths with Justin any little thing could set her off. |
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Such a vivid imagination - posting stories you have made up in your own head that have only the lightest connections to reality. I guess it gets you off.
Reynolds filed his reply in the case but it hasn’t been posted for free yet, so I haven’t read it. |
Thanks for the recommendation of the podcast. It sounds really interesting. Harrison Ford is a curmudgeon, but he is a well-respected actor. I did not even know he was in a movie with Blake Lively. Will be interested to hear about that. |