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Anonymous
Yet... Colleges don't pay transfer fees yet. |
Anonymous
If you don’t know “what demand for talent”, it’s better that it stays that way. 😂 College soccer players are awful. Take the worst NWSL team and they’re significantly better than the best girls college soccer team, it’s laughable you’d think that College is a training ground of sorts. NWSL is not profitable on an annual operating basis / P&L - but they’re extremely lucrative for owners - these are investments that look for exits events not interim year cash flows. That’s why they have annual raises and add new owners every year, that floats the operating expenses while everyone is waiting for the sale. You don’t understand the economics. |
Anonymous
Not at all…why would everyone prefer the league that did away with trapped players? ECNL should be a global model for soccer academies. Plus they have a really excellent podcast. |
Anonymous
You are seriously overestimating transfer fees and the staying power of a small league with 14 teams only a decade in. The previous versions WUSA and the other one only lasted a few seasons. Wish they were more stable and had higher team salaries but it is what it is. |
Anonymous
Trying to understand the comments on the other thread about the competitive consequences for ECNL now. So the most competitive players will need to stay BY to be relevant or they will choose the path that MSLN/GA offers? |
Anonymous
That’s because NWSL players are pros? You could take the worst of any professional team and they would beat the best national championship college team soundly. College is just additional development for the elite players still pursuing the sport. But the NWSL is filled with former college players so idk what you are talking about. |
Anonymous
Elite soccer players should prefer to play SY because they are getting to play against older kids. So Jan to July kids who are usually the oldest now get the opportunity to play “up”. The most competitive kids would want to play up as much as they can if they are that elite. Your regular ECNL kids will probably also stay with SY because of the same reasons mentioned above. SY really only negatively affects kids Jan to July who are just average players within their level. |
Anonymous
You’ve no idea if I’m overestimating anything. 😂 You’re confusing news worthy size of fee in the European men’s game with the economic value of the transfer fee and series of fees for the academies. The girls side is riper in the US for the academy economics than the boys side in the US. A variety of reasons for that. |
Anonymous
College is not additional development. That’s what you don’t understand. It USED to be. But it hasn’t been for a good decade or more, because the women’s professional game has been getting significantly better. College is a terminal stop, and the college game doesn’t scale to higher level play anymore - it is a waste of soccer years for anyone with higher playing ambition. PP made an argument that college players are better, they’re not. The best youth players forgo college or only play a couple years max before going pro. We agree that the best college team would get smoked by the worst NWSL team. But I’d argue that the best ECNL team would be very competitive in the college ranks. The point is that the college ranks are where soccer dreams go to die now. |
Anonymous
Wrong thread…. |
Anonymous
I think you mixed a few things up. US Soccer historically wanted BY so Youth Teams aren't disadvantaged in international competitions, because of how previously SY affected its teams due to RAE. ECNL (as well as everyone) is currently is BY (some leaders are looking to change it SY now that US Soccer says its doing away with its mandate for BY). BY currently favors Jan-July kids (of course there are exceptions). SY would favor Aug-Oct (if Aug. 1 cutoff, say -- and again there are exceptions). All elite players, regardless of birth month, typically play up because they are so damn good. Having both -- if possible -- likely best scenario for overall soccer ecosystem to reduce RAE for late-developing players, including elite. |
Anonymous
Actually, this is the SY/BY thread. There's another on the MLS/GA strategic partnership, although this one has been sorta hijacked by this latest news. Now, will it impact BY/SY -- yes, if all these elite league split on BY/SY and that could lead leagues of all sizes having both. ... Some believe that's possible while others say SY will become largely the rule for youth soccer going foward -- because only one way can truly work. |
Anonymous
Didn’t mix it up. If you’re a great Jan to July kid playing school year then go play BY for national team competition. You would want to play SY normally as you are playing against older kids. Same logic applies to great players from Aug to Dec playing BY. |
Anonymous
True for individuals but for soccer as a whole that means over time fewer players the younger parts of those various windows. What's simpler is if you're a soccer player and good, you probably play against older age groups regardless. If you're eying some edge because of birth month for BY or SY, you're probably not yet at the very top (although maybe you could find yourself there one day). |
Anonymous
Kind of like a farmer saying if I only had rain. |