Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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I think this is the same five people arguing the same five things over and over.

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We are allowed to express agreement and disagreement with one another and why we feel that way. Team Baldoni does that often enough but go off lol.

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Anonymous wrote:The appropriate way to handle behavior like this is to file a complete with HR and sag. Nothing that happened to Blake is worthy of a lawsuit and an article in New York Times.

Especially since a list of complaints were raised halfway through, and there were no other incidents. As someone said up thread, that’s an HR success story. We never should’ve heard about it beyond that point. But Blake decided to burn it all down in August and start rumors about him and ice him out of the premiere which caused rampant speculation and damaged his reputation. She started the smear campaign, didn’t see the intense backlash against her coming, maybe didn’t think he’d hire a crisis communications firm to deal with it, and then seems like had a meltdown, and felt backed up against the wall.

Her team should have stopped her, but her lawyers must be making a killing.

I wonder if her hair product line has made a comeback.

The reason the NYT found it newsworthy was the PR campaign, with those texts between Nathan, Abel, and Baldoni.

I also think it's highly unlikely Blake would have sued were it not for the texts. Her retaliation claims are stronger than the SH claims. And it's very problematic that Wayfarer agreed NOT to retaliate when they signed the 17-point list.

I’m curious to see how this gets argued in court. I think Baldoni can argue that he did NOT retaliate against her for SH at any point and that his actions were in response to what SHE did to HIM during the premiere. Let’s put this in corporate terms. If someone alleges SH at work, they can’t be fired for bringing those allegations but they can still be fired for cause. For example, if that person just starts coming to work late everyday, they can’t say oh you can’t fire me b/c once upon a time I alleged SH and that would be retaliation.

Some of the texts are very problematic for Baldoni. There is a text where he he essentially acknowledges that she believes her own allegations, and that they have to do something or "she'll never give up " it undercuts his argument that she was lying and just trying to steal the movie. And the texts about how he wants her buried (though those might be hearsay, we'll see), and him texting a tweet about Hailey Bieber being accused of being a mean girl and saying "this is what we need." I think there are others too, and can't remember.

The texts are a real problem for him

I disagree here. I actually think some of those texts about how she will never give up and about her state of mind thinking she is right help him. Blakes side has some problematic texts of threats. First of all, she threatened the viability of the movie several times by walking away, clearly showing that she did not care if she blew up the movie and cost her millions. This is showing a pattern of making threats.

Next, there are really problematic text from her team and Sony, one being, about “now the gloves are off.” Another being that he “better play ball.” And the third being the one about “any goodwill we had is now gone.” or something to that effect.

For Justin to be reading these texts and then responding it to his team that he’s unsure what she will do and that she will never give up, that helps him because she was continually making all these threats, creating a pattern, and he was truly fearful about what she was capable of, as anyone in the right mind would be. Add that to the fact that his version did not get released, even though it scored higher, his name and photo were stripped from the film poster, his film by it was stripped away, he was banned from the premier, and she was starting rumors about him and iced out the cast. She also hired her own marketing firm, said that it would be free, charged the film, did not include him in any of the marketing, that is a pattern of aggressive, bullying behavior. I just don’t understand how people expected him to react.

Oh no, actually I do. Ryan and Blake’s team thought he would just roll over and die. It was perfectly reasonable for him to hire a PR crisis team. He was under a major threat and he has the receipts.

“These texts showing Baldoni actively participated in the PR smear and wanted his team to go harder actually help him” is not an argument I was expecting.

DP. I’m the one who made the point earlier that SH is not a free pass for future wrongdoing, giving the example that someone can’t be fired for SH allegations but can still be fired for cause (for example if they’re coming in late everyday). I believe it’s not enough for Blake to prove that JB put stories out about her bullying behavior. She was bullying him after all. She has to prove that the alleged smearing was retaliation for the SH allegations she raised 8 mos earlier and not in response to her bullying him during the promo and premiere. Legally, he can defend himself just like a company can still discipline or fire a bad employee who had previously alleged SH. There should be plenty of case law on this.

[Anonymous]

It always comes back to the birth scene, let’s discuss it for the one hundredth time.

It’s a beautiful day outside, just saying.

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Anonymous wrote:It always comes back to the birth scene, let’s discuss it for the one hundredth time.

It’s a beautiful day outside, just saying.

I see the birth scene as a creative discussion that should be allowed on a movie set, so it does look like Blake was fishing for things to hold over Wayfarer as leverage. It’s interesting no one ever commented on the point I made pages and pages ago about another simple favor. There’s a video that has resurfaced of Blake, Anna Kendrick and Paul Feig talking about how Blake added to a scene that her character would grab her male costar’s groin because that’s something Blake felt her character would do. Why is it ok for Blake to give notes but not for Justin? Is it because he’s a man? He can’t give his opinion on what he thinks the birthing scene would look like?

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is the same five people arguing the same five things over and over.

I know. I can’t believe this thread is still going. The parties on both sides are toast now. Who would want to work with these people ever again. Too much drama!

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Anonymous wrote:It always comes back to the birth scene, let’s discuss it for the one hundredth time.

It’s a beautiful day outside, just saying.

I see the birth scene as a creative discussion that should be allowed on a movie set, so it does look like Blake was fishing for things to hold over Wayfarer as leverage. It’s interesting no one ever commented on the point I made pages and pages ago about another simple favor. There’s a video that has resurfaced of Blake, Anna Kendrick and Paul Feig talking about how Blake added to a scene that her character would grab her male costar’s groin because that’s something Blake felt her character would do. Why is it ok for Blake to give notes but not for Justin? Is it because he’s a man? He can’t give his opinion on what he thinks the birthing scene would look like?

I posted a response to that. You obviously didn't read it.

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Anonymous wrote:It always comes back to the birth scene, let’s discuss it for the one hundredth time.

It’s a beautiful day outside, just saying.

I see the birth scene as a creative discussion that should be allowed on a movie set, so it does look like Blake was fishing for things to hold over Wayfarer as leverage. It’s interesting no one ever commented on the point I made pages and pages ago about another simple favor. There’s a video that has resurfaced of Blake, Anna Kendrick and Paul Feig talking about how Blake added to a scene that her character would grab her male costar’s groin because that’s something Blake felt her character would do. Why is it ok for Blake to give notes but not for Justin? Is it because he’s a man? He can’t give his opinion on what he thinks the birthing scene would look like?

I posted a response to that. You obviously didn't read it.

Must’ve overlooked it. I’m not on here all day like some lol.

[Anonymous]

With the seriousness of world events I just don’t feel as enthralled in this as a distraction anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:It always comes back to the birth scene, let’s discuss it for the one hundredth time.

It’s a beautiful day outside, just saying.

I see the birth scene as a creative discussion that should be allowed on a movie set, so it does look like Blake was fishing for things to hold over Wayfarer as leverage. It’s interesting no one ever commented on the point I made pages and pages ago about another simple favor. There’s a video that has resurfaced of Blake, Anna Kendrick and Paul Feig talking about how Blake added to a scene that her character would grab her male costar’s groin because that’s something Blake felt her character would do. Why is it ok for Blake to give notes but not for Justin? Is it because he’s a man? He can’t give his opinion on what he thinks the birthing scene would look like?

I posted a response to that. You obviously didn't read it.

Must’ve overlooked it. I’m not on here all day like some lol.

DP but seems like you are lol.

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Anonymous wrote:With the seriousness of world events I just don’t feel as enthralled in this as a distraction anymore.

I’m losing interest too. Maybe there will be more to talk about when the judge starts ruling on the MTDs.

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Anonymous wrote:With the seriousness of world events I just don’t feel as enthralled in this as a distraction anymore.

I’m losing interest too. Maybe there will be more to talk about when the judge starts ruling on the MTDs.

+1 The same sides going back and forth is boring but then suddenly we'll probably get a big drop of legal news all in one day. And so we keep coming back.

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It's probably going to be about a month before there are rulings on the MTDs, and that's going to be a lot of fodder for discussion. Until then, unless there is some controversy on the discovery front that spills out into public (I'm sure they have some private skirmishes over discovery that are unfolding in meet and confers but so far they seem to be resolving them privately), we probably won't have anything to discuss except rehash the same old issues over and over. Which I agree is boring.

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Anonymous wrote:With the seriousness of world events I just don’t feel as enthralled in this as a distraction anymore.

I’m losing interest too. Maybe there will be more to talk about when the judge starts ruling on the MTDs.

It will. There's not much to say now and it's just a waiting period until then.

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This is dumb imo. Being uncomfortable doesn't make it sexual harrassment. That's already been decided in court in previous court cases. Neither are going to win, but Blake has ruined her reputation