ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:We are in the window that US Club was going to announce plans. Hopfully we knpow somthng before xmas.

The Pod will have info as per Lavers.


If you listen to the SOCAL pod from last week which people were asking questions. It sounded like SY was going to be coming back but nothing was guaranteed and they want to make sure to do things the right way. So I would not expect anyone to do anything in a major way for next year (25/26).

Many club directors to not want to deal with the change at all so my guess is this will be a phased in process. Which will be slow and steady.

Just a guess, hopefully we get some answers on Wednesday.
Many club directors want to be ahead of changes so they are trying to slow down the official announcements and implementation while their clubs position themselves to take advantage of the change.

They are competitive by nature and want to win and catch others flatfooted. Expect them to try to focus on Q3 and Q4 kids at the next tryout season.


How quickly they can recruit The new Q1 will have a big say on how they are able to compete come 26/27. Def would make sense to stockpile at this tryout and then move those kids down the year after.


It has already begun, 2012 Q4 parent here, just waiting on our marching orders. If your club directors aren't preparing, you should find another club as the one you are at isn't serious.
In what way is it beginning? Which club?


We are in the Dallas area, our director has made us aware of the potential change but has been pretty cautious about saying anything more. The plan is to start integrating after the holidays.


There is nothing to intergrate. No changes this year.


Your right nothing is changing in 24'....
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Anonymous wrote:We are in the window that US Club was going to announce plans. Hopfully we knpow somthng before xmas.

The Pod will have info as per Lavers.


If you listen to the SOCAL pod from last week which people were asking questions. It sounded like SY was going to be coming back but nothing was guaranteed and they want to make sure to do things the right way. So I would not expect anyone to do anything in a major way for next year (25/26).

Many club directors to not want to deal with the change at all so my guess is this will be a phased in process. Which will be slow and steady.

Just a guess, hopefully we get some answers on Wednesday.
Many club directors want to be ahead of changes so they are trying to slow down the official announcements and implementation while their clubs position themselves to take advantage of the change.

They are competitive by nature and want to win and catch others flatfooted. Expect them to try to focus on Q3 and Q4 kids at the next tryout season.


How quickly they can recruit The new Q1 will have a big say on how they are able to compete come 26/27. Def would make sense to stockpile at this tryout and then move those kids down the year after.


It has already begun, 2012 Q4 parent here, just waiting on our marching orders. If your club directors aren't preparing, you should find another club as the one you are at isn't serious.
In what way is it beginning? Which club?


We are in the Dallas area, our director has made us aware of the potential change but has been pretty cautious about saying anything more. The plan is to start integrating after the holidays.


I have seen this in the Philly area as well.
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Anonymous wrote:We are in the window that US Club was going to announce plans. Hopfully we knpow somthng before xmas.

The Pod will have info as per Lavers.


If you listen to the SOCAL pod from last week which people were asking questions. It sounded like SY was going to be coming back but nothing was guaranteed and they want to make sure to do things the right way. So I would not expect anyone to do anything in a major way for next year (25/26).

Many club directors to not want to deal with the change at all so my guess is this will be a phased in process. Which will be slow and steady.

Just a guess, hopefully we get some answers on Wednesday.
Many club directors want to be ahead of changes so they are trying to slow down the official announcements and implementation while their clubs position themselves to take advantage of the change.

They are competitive by nature and want to win and catch others flatfooted. Expect them to try to focus on Q3 and Q4 kids at the next tryout season.


How quickly they can recruit The new Q1 will have a big say on how they are able to compete come 26/27. Def would make sense to stockpile at this tryout and then move those kids down the year after.


It has already begun, 2012 Q4 parent here, just waiting on our marching orders. If your club directors aren't preparing, you should find another club as the one you are at isn't serious.
In what way is it beginning? Which club?


We are in the Dallas area, our director has made us aware of the potential change but has been pretty cautious about saying anything more. The plan is to start integrating after the holidays.


There is nothing to intergrate. No changes this year.


That’s what my director is saying as well. Will be a slow roll out into Fall 26.


What does "slow roll out into Fall 26" mean? I am not asking this sarcastically I am really curious from people know more what that might look like. Mine is a December 2014, so she'll be going into her first year of ECNL in Fall 2026, or not? I guess? What do people think, or what are club directors saying, does a "slow roll out" look like?
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Anonymous wrote:We are in the window that US Club was going to announce plans. Hopfully we knpow somthng before xmas.

The Pod will have info as per Lavers.


If you listen to the SOCAL pod from last week which people were asking questions. It sounded like SY was going to be coming back but nothing was guaranteed and they want to make sure to do things the right way. So I would not expect anyone to do anything in a major way for next year (25/26).

Many club directors to not want to deal with the change at all so my guess is this will be a phased in process. Which will be slow and steady.

Just a guess, hopefully we get some answers on Wednesday.
Many club directors want to be ahead of changes so they are trying to slow down the official announcements and implementation while their clubs position themselves to take advantage of the change.

They are competitive by nature and want to win and catch others flatfooted. Expect them to try to focus on Q3 and Q4 kids at the next tryout season.


How quickly they can recruit The new Q1 will have a big say on how they are able to compete come 26/27. Def would make sense to stockpile at this tryout and then move those kids down the year after.


It has already begun, 2012 Q4 parent here, just waiting on our marching orders. If your club directors aren't preparing, you should find another club as the one you are at isn't serious.
In what way is it beginning? Which club?


We are in the Dallas area, our director has made us aware of the potential change but has been pretty cautious about saying anything more. The plan is to start integrating after the holidays.


There is nothing to intergrate. No changes this year.


That’s what my director is saying as well. Will be a slow roll out into Fall 26.


What does "slow roll out into Fall 26" mean? I am not asking this sarcastically I am really curious from people know more what that might look like. Mine is a December 2014, so she'll be going into her first year of ECNL in Fall 2026, or not? I guess? What do people think, or what are club directors saying, does a "slow roll out" look like?


He didn’t say anything specific, I didn’t think anything other than they weren’t doing any major changes until Fall 26.
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Anonymous wrote:We are in the window that US Club was going to announce plans. Hopfully we knpow somthng before xmas.

The Pod will have info as per Lavers.


If you listen to the SOCAL pod from last week which people were asking questions. It sounded like SY was going to be coming back but nothing was guaranteed and they want to make sure to do things the right way. So I would not expect anyone to do anything in a major way for next year (25/26).

Many club directors to not want to deal with the change at all so my guess is this will be a phased in process. Which will be slow and steady.

Just a guess, hopefully we get some answers on Wednesday.
Many club directors want to be ahead of changes so they are trying to slow down the official announcements and implementation while their clubs position themselves to take advantage of the change.

They are competitive by nature and want to win and catch others flatfooted. Expect them to try to focus on Q3 and Q4 kids at the next tryout season.


How quickly they can recruit The new Q1 will have a big say on how they are able to compete come 26/27. Def would make sense to stockpile at this tryout and then move those kids down the year after.


It has already begun, 2012 Q4 parent here, just waiting on our marching orders. If your club directors aren't preparing, you should find another club as the one you are at isn't serious.
In what way is it beginning? Which club?


We are in the Dallas area, our director has made us aware of the potential change but has been pretty cautious about saying anything more. The plan is to start integrating after the holidays.


There is nothing to intergrate. No changes this year.


That’s what my director is saying as well. Will be a slow roll out into Fall 26.


What does "slow roll out into Fall 26" mean? I am not asking this sarcastically I am really curious from people know more what that might look like. Mine is a December 2014, so she'll be going into her first year of ECNL in Fall 2026, or not? I guess? What do people think, or what are club directors saying, does a "slow roll out" look like?
Most likely in fall 2026 she is doing U12 for second time, so pre-ECNL/ECRL, unless she plays up.
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Anonymous wrote:We are in the window that US Club was going to announce plans. Hopfully we knpow somthng before xmas.

The Pod will have info as per Lavers.


If you listen to the SOCAL pod from last week which people were asking questions. It sounded like SY was going to be coming back but nothing was guaranteed and they want to make sure to do things the right way. So I would not expect anyone to do anything in a major way for next year (25/26).

Many club directors to not want to deal with the change at all so my guess is this will be a phased in process. Which will be slow and steady.

Just a guess, hopefully we get some answers on Wednesday.
Many club directors want to be ahead of changes so they are trying to slow down the official announcements and implementation while their clubs position themselves to take advantage of the change.

They are competitive by nature and want to win and catch others flatfooted. Expect them to try to focus on Q3 and Q4 kids at the next tryout season.


How quickly they can recruit The new Q1 will have a big say on how they are able to compete come 26/27. Def would make sense to stockpile at this tryout and then move those kids down the year after.


It has already begun, 2012 Q4 parent here, just waiting on our marching orders. If your club directors aren't preparing, you should find another club as the one you are at isn't serious.
In what way is it beginning? Which club?


We are in the Dallas area, our director has made us aware of the potential change but has been pretty cautious about saying anything more. The plan is to start integrating after the holidays.


There is nothing to intergrate. No changes this year.


That’s what my director is saying as well. Will be a slow roll out into Fall 26.


What does "slow roll out into Fall 26" mean? I am not asking this sarcastically I am really curious from people know more what that might look like. Mine is a December 2014, so she'll be going into her first year of ECNL in Fall 2026, or not? I guess? What do people think, or what are club directors saying, does a "slow roll out" look like?
Most likely in fall 2026 she is doing U12 for second time, so pre-ECNL/ECRL, unless she plays up.
My DD is in a similar situation. If 26/27, then we would still try out for ECNL since those happen in March. If she doesn’t make it, then will consider RL (not a huge fan of this idea), or go U12 for a club that fees into where ever we end up targeting for ECNL. We should have a lot of very good options if this is how it works out. Granted, have heard any and everything regarding if and when, so who knows.
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I have my Q3 soon to be Q1 kid in a EA Program for the pre ECNL time . We will go shopping for clubs this spring looking at offers from top ENCL sides in our market. We have no pressure to jump. Will look for best deal and make the right choice for him with respect to coaching etc.
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Anonymous wrote:I have my Q3 soon to be Q1 kid in a EA Program for the pre ECNL time . We will go shopping for clubs this spring looking at offers from top ENCL sides in our market. We have no pressure to jump. Will look for best deal and make the right choice for him with respect to coaching etc.


ECNL gave a hint that the cutoff is 9/1.
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Anonymous wrote:I have my Q3 soon to be Q1 kid in a EA Program for the pre ECNL time . We will go shopping for clubs this spring looking at offers from top ENCL sides in our market. We have no pressure to jump. Will look for best deal and make the right choice for him with respect to coaching etc.


ECNL gave a hint that the cutoff is 9/1.


September/October would still be Q1
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Anonymous wrote:I have my Q3 soon to be Q1 kid in a EA Program for the pre ECNL time . We will go shopping for clubs this spring looking at offers from top ENCL sides in our market. We have no pressure to jump. Will look for best deal and make the right choice for him with respect to coaching etc.


ECNL gave a hint that the cutoff is 9/1.


They gave lots of “hints” which didn’t turn out the way they wanted or expected. Hopefully ECNL will address some of the questions on Wednesday.
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Yup, September B Day. Pretty big change for my son. Hes never played with classmates. Pretty excited about it.
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Interesting how they talked about fifa and how important it is to have a registration process that makes it easy to give to them the numbers of players and other info.

But US soccer decided it was best that every league can decide for themselves what they want to do?

That does not sound like it streamlines anything.
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Anonymous wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hTA0bU4pJe8


Interesting that the former college coach says SY is better for college recruiting and makes things easier? Allows college coaches to be for effective with their time when they are at showcases.

But all the BY parents said college coaches don’t care about that?….
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Anonymous wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hTA0bU4pJe8


Interesting that the former college coach says SY is better for college recruiting and makes things easier? Allows college coaches to be for effective with their time when they are at showcases.

But all the BY parents said college coaches don’t care about that?….


Lots of hate about this on here, but this is a good thing. The initial idea to go to birth year was absolutely insane and really screwed up youth soccer in this country. The people who pushed it through should still be hung from the rafters.

I know this article says leagues can do what they want, but they always have been able to do that. Recreational leagues, for the most part, have stayed grade level if they are large enough to have their own internal league.

Competitive teams had to change to birth year because they were under the US Soccer umbrella. Now, with the immergence of travel leagues (ECNL, GA etc) the top teams in the country, with the top players, will be going to grade level 100%. This is because these leagues are designed to get players in front of college coaches, and college coaches hate watching a team play and having to constantly check what each player's graduation year is. The major reason US Soccer has backed off on birth year is because the major travel leagues have basically forced them too, and US Soccer's control of youth soccer in the country is at the weakest point it's ever been.

So this article says now it's undecided, but it is decided. Everyone will go back to grade level within a few years. The reason US Soccer doesn't have a stance anymore is because they aren't the major player anymore. US Soccer still has the 54(?) state associations under its umbrella, but it doesn't oversee Rec leagues (the vast majority of youth players in this country), and doesn't oversee the top players anymore. ODP is effectively dead. US Soccer is turning it's focus to the youth national teams and senior national teams, which has been its focus for 20+ years, they are just admitting it openly now. They were never good at running youth soccer in this country, and thats why it's where it's at.

Source: USSF 'A' license, USYSA Youth License, 25+ years coaching experience from youth to D1 college. Was in the room when US Soccer was deciding to change to birth year, and raised a fit about it.
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