ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I recently saw something where of the 550 or so division 1 freshman girls scholarships went to ecnl players with only like 17 outside of those going to "non-ecnl" girls. Number's were staggering.

Would be interested in seeing that link or reference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I recently saw something where of the 550 or so division 1 freshman girls scholarships went to ecnl players with only like 17 outside of those going to "non-ecnl" girls. Number's were staggering.

Would be interested in seeing that link or reference.

I saw those stats recently. Another Dad on the field had them so I don't have the link but it wasn't that severe. It was 73% came from ECNL, 19% were from GA. I forget the other categories but I do remember is was something like 17 of 550 girls came from rec league only. Illustrating how hard it is to get recruited if you're outside of ECNL and GA. And how dominant ECNL is in that world. That's why it's entertaining to watch this thread and have people think that ECNL isn't going to get exactly what they want. They said SY and everybody else jumped. Now they are going to dictate the rollout and timeline that's most agreeable for their clubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I recently saw something where of the 550 or so division 1 freshman girls scholarships went to ecnl players with only like 17 outside of those going to "non-ecnl" girls. Number's were staggering.

Would be interested in seeing that link or reference.

I saw those stats recently. Another Dad on the field had them so I don't have the link but it wasn't that severe. It was 73% came from ECNL, 19% were from GA. I forget the other categories but I do remember is was something like 17 of 550 girls came from rec league only. Illustrating how hard it is to get recruited if you're outside of ECNL and GA. And how dominant ECNL is in that world. That's why it's entertaining to watch this thread and have people think that ECNL isn't going to get exactly what they want. They said SY and everybody else jumped. Now they are going to dictate the rollout and timeline that's most agreeable for their clubs.

ECNL may dominate college recruiting with 73% of players coming from their league. But that’s only college recruiting for girls. And a league for college recruiting still represents a very small percentage of overall youth soccer. US Youth soccer is way bigger than ECNL. This forum has a bubble of people who think all youth soccer is about the top league and college recruiting, when it’s actually a small part of the overall soccer picture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I recently saw something where of the 550 or so division 1 freshman girls scholarships went to ecnl players with only like 17 outside of those going to "non-ecnl" girls. Number's were staggering.

Would be interested in seeing that link or reference.

He keeps it under his ECNL hat.

[Anonymous]

I find it humerus that the ecnl hats love to talk about D1 college like this is the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. First if you're not on a top team in the country it will be hard to get a look. This means if you're not one of the top teams at the national level D1 is not likely in your kids future. Also is D1 where you really want your kid to play? Many D1 coaches churn through players and spit them out on a whim. Look at the transfer portal and you can see the number of D1 broken dreams. And all for what? 80k per year to play in the NWSL?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it humerus that the ecnl hats love to talk about D1 college like this is the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. First if you're not on a top team in the country it will be hard to get a look. This means if you're not one of the top teams at the national level D1 is not likely in your kids future. Also is D1 where you really want your kid to play? Many D1 coaches churn through players and spit them out on a whim. Look at the transfer portal and you can see the number of D1 broken dreams. And all for what? 80k per year to play in the NWSL?

Just have gone through recruiting. Couple of points. You do not have to be on the top teams in ECNL to get a look from D1. Almost every ECNL team ends up with P4 commit but also a number of girls looked at by P4. Your top half of even bad teams get lots of D1 looks and offers. Agree with you D1 is tough. We were focused on Ivys and high academic D1s. Not as bad and if soccer does not work out the school is the key so not likely to transfer for soccer. Agree on pro. No reason for that to be a goal. There is almost nothing at the end of the rainbow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I recently saw something where of the 550 or so division 1 freshman girls scholarships went to ecnl players with only like 17 outside of those going to "non-ecnl" girls. Number's were staggering.

Would be interested in seeing that link or reference.

He keeps it under his ECNL hat.

Stats come from @IMYouthSoccer account on twitter/IG. They also track every commit and transfer to D1 girls soccer programs

[Anonymous]

If ECNL goes to SY and MLSN stays BY in 26, does this mean inter league games will no longer exist because of age differences?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If ECNL goes to SY and MLSN stays BY in 26, does this mean inter league games will no longer exist because of age differences?

Either league clubs can put together teams that work in the other leagues tournaments.

The problem is making accommodations is hard and it's easier to just not play in other leagues tournaments.

BY teams would essentially be playing against 6 month older SY teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If ECNL goes to SY and MLSN stays BY in 26, does this mean inter league games will no longer exist because of age differences?

Either league clubs can put together teams that work in the other leagues tournaments.

The problem is making accommodations is hard and it's easier to just not play in other leagues tournaments.

BY teams would essentially be playing against 6 month older SY teams.

Oh no! A team might play against another team that is 6 months older! 6 months! In a meaningless inter league tournament! It’s not the end of the world people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I recently saw something where of the 550 or so division 1 freshman girls scholarships went to ecnl players with only like 17 outside of those going to "non-ecnl" girls. Number's were staggering.

Would be interested in seeing that link or reference.

I saw those stats recently. Another Dad on the field had them so I don't have the link but it wasn't that severe. It was 73% came from ECNL, 19% were from GA. I forget the other categories but I do remember is was something like 17 of 550 girls came from rec league only. Illustrating how hard it is to get recruited if you're outside of ECNL and GA. And how dominant ECNL is in that world. That's why it's entertaining to watch this thread and have people think that ECNL isn't going to get exactly what they want. They said SY and everybody else jumped. Now they are going to dictate the rollout and timeline that's most agreeable for their clubs.

ECNL may dominate college recruiting with 73% of players coming from their league. But that’s only college recruiting for girls. And a league for college recruiting still represents a very small percentage of overall youth soccer. US Youth soccer is way bigger than ECNL. This forum has a bubble of people who think all youth soccer is about the top league and college recruiting, when it’s actually a small part of the overall soccer picture.

Its not just about D1, its about the thousands of kids that get to play in college each year and it's nice being ECNL because you get to choose what path you want to pursue. Look, we need to start being honest about the fact that (especially girls) youth soccer has become a wealthy sport in most places. Its not about going pro. Its about going to a great school. Not one parent on our team would allow their kid to play pro, even if it were an option. $100k per year and delaying your career is not an option. But going to an Ivy and becoming a doctor or lawyer that can brag about playing for the national team...yup, that's what we're all envisioning and we're willing to pay any amount and drive an unlimited number of hours to see it happen. My daughter is flying through the ranks because we're paying $10k per year for 'explosion training' and $80 per session multiple times per week for extra training. No because she's a gifted athlete. She's also that but so are many kids that come close to her skill level, simply because mommy and daddy weren't rich. So yes, ECNL is critical to our goals. My daughter is a Q4 kid so I love the move to SY and any other advantage my kid can gain to get her to play for Yale. Hope this is honest enough and dispels the myth that Americans care about international or pro play. I'll be heavily supporting and joining the league that get us to D1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If ECNL goes to SY and MLSN stays BY in 26, does this mean inter league games will no longer exist because of age differences?

Either league clubs can put together teams that work in the other leagues tournaments.

The problem is making accommodations is hard and it's easier to just not play in other leagues tournaments.

BY teams would essentially be playing against 6 month older SY teams.

If current Q3/4 players can do it I’m sure everyone will be fine. Theres no reason a BY team wouldn’t be able to compete with a school year team. It’s not going to be a big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If ECNL goes to SY and MLSN stays BY in 26, does this mean inter league games will no longer exist because of age differences?

Either league clubs can put together teams that work in the other leagues tournaments.

The problem is making accommodations is hard and it's easier to just not play in other leagues tournaments.

BY teams would essentially be playing against 6 month older SY teams.

Oh no! A team might play against another team that is 6 months older! 6 months! In a meaningless inter league tournament! It’s not the end of the world people.

No, what will happen is clubs from different leagues just won't play each other if some are BY and others are SY. It's not because they can't it's because it's a PITA to make things work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If ECNL goes to SY and MLSN stays BY in 26, does this mean inter league games will no longer exist because of age differences?

Either league clubs can put together teams that work in the other leagues tournaments.

The problem is making accommodations is hard and it's easier to just not play in other leagues tournaments.

BY teams would essentially be playing against 6 month older SY teams.

Oh no! A team might play against another team that is 6 months older! 6 months! In a meaningless inter league tournament! It’s not the end of the world people.

No, what will happen is clubs from different leagues just won't play each other if some are BY and others are SY. It's not because they can't it's because it's a PITA to make things work.

And what will happen is eventually leagues like ECNL will slowly leach down into the youngers and Start doing travel showcases for youngers.

All the money local tournaments make will get absorbed by the big leagues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I recently saw something where of the 550 or so division 1 freshman girls scholarships went to ecnl players with only like 17 outside of those going to "non-ecnl" girls. Number's were staggering.

Would be interested in seeing that link or reference.

I saw those stats recently. Another Dad on the field had them so I don't have the link but it wasn't that severe. It was 73% came from ECNL, 19% were from GA. I forget the other categories but I do remember is was something like 17 of 550 girls came from rec league only. Illustrating how hard it is to get recruited if you're outside of ECNL and GA. And how dominant ECNL is in that world. That's why it's entertaining to watch this thread and have people think that ECNL isn't going to get exactly what they want. They said SY and everybody else jumped. Now they are going to dictate the rollout and timeline that's most agreeable for their clubs.

ECNL may dominate college recruiting with 73% of players coming from their league. But that’s only college recruiting for girls. And a league for college recruiting still represents a very small percentage of overall youth soccer. US Youth soccer is way bigger than ECNL. This forum has a bubble of people who think all youth soccer is about the top league and college recruiting, when it’s actually a small part of the overall soccer picture.

Its not just about D1, its about the thousands of kids that get to play in college each year and it's nice being ECNL because you get to choose what path you want to pursue. Look, we need to start being honest about the fact that (especially girls) youth soccer has become a wealthy sport in most places. Its not about going pro. Its about going to a great school. Not one parent on our team would allow their kid to play pro, even if it were an option. $100k per year and delaying your career is not an option. But going to an Ivy and becoming a doctor or lawyer that can brag about playing for the national team...yup, that's what we're all envisioning and we're willing to pay any amount and drive an unlimited number of hours to see it happen. My daughter is flying through the ranks because we're paying $10k per year for 'explosion training' and $80 per session multiple times per week for extra training. No because she's a gifted athlete. She's also that but so are many kids that come close to her skill level, simply because mommy and daddy weren't rich. So yes, ECNL is critical to our goals. My daughter is a Q4 kid so I love the move to SY and any other advantage my kid can gain to get her to play for Yale. Hope this is honest enough and dispels the myth that Americans care about international or pro play. I'll be heavily supporting and joining the league that get us to D1.

This is honest. Thank you. And boy does it stink for us non-rich people. The