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Anonymous wrote:question for the virology experts: if omicron turns out to be not virulent at all is it a good idea to get infected? One will get some immunity from the infection but not the sickness, right? Or is it even possible to neutralize the virulent part of its RNA to turn it into some kind of live vaccine?

It would be funny if it works that way. All the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will get vaccinated by breathing.

And vaccinated will get it too.

This trope again?! You never quit; I'll give you that.

We don't have enough evidence of how the vaxxes work for omicron. The vaxxes work really for all previous variants.

You again. Did you miss the super spreader party that everyone was vaccinated? Read the news.

"Health authorities said the individuals infected were so far displaying mild symptoms, with none hospitalised." I'd say that's working.

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The threshold for success has gone so low. Outbreaks in Oslo, Denmark and Somerset, England with attack rates between 30 and 80% and we are acting like it's great news.

Yes because they’re barely sick. Did you really think there would be a day when covid wasn’t around in some form? The goal is to make it mild

The fact that you think that we can make it mild is amusing.

There is no selection pressure for covid to be virulent or more virulent. So eventually it will make itself mild by mutation.

It doesn't have to make itself more virulent or mild. It's a myth that viruses naturally attenuate with time.

It’s not a myth. It’s random mutation.

What do you mean by random mutation? I'm saying it's a myth that viruses evolve to be milder. If that happens, it is due to extreme luck, not the normal course of things.

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Anonymous wrote:question for the virology experts: if omicron turns out to be not virulent at all is it a good idea to get infected? One will get some immunity from the infection but not the sickness, right? Or is it even possible to neutralize the virulent part of its RNA to turn it into some kind of live vaccine?

It would be funny if it works that way. All the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will get vaccinated by breathing.

And vaccinated will get it too.

Since omicron does not cause serious illnesses the more the merrier. It’s the best and most economic form of herd immunity considering the low vaccination rate worldwide.

Surely you jest?

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Thoughts on the topic from an evolutionary biologist and virologist

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Anonymous wrote:question for the virology experts: if omicron turns out to be not virulent at all is it a good idea to get infected? One will get some immunity from the infection but not the sickness, right? Or is it even possible to neutralize the virulent part of its RNA to turn it into some kind of live vaccine?

It would be funny if it works that way. All the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will get vaccinated by breathing.

And vaccinated will get it too.

Since omicron does not cause serious illnesses the more the merrier. It’s the best and most economic form of herd immunity considering the low vaccination rate worldwide.

Surely you jest?

DP, and while I wouldn’t go quite that far yet, I see their point. If things aren’t good enough going into Omicron, I really don’t know what it is going to take for people to move on. Highly effective vaccines weren’t enough, so I guess we need to break people’s fears of case numbers (or at least give them a new anchor point to compare against) along with more infection-acquired immunity. It looks like Omicron might provide those while being generally less severe than Delta. Maybe. We’ll probably know a lot more in a few weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:question for the virology experts: if omicron turns out to be not virulent at all is it a good idea to get infected? One will get some immunity from the infection but not the sickness, right? Or is it even possible to neutralize the virulent part of its RNA to turn it into some kind of live vaccine?

It would be funny if it works that way. All the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will get vaccinated by breathing.

And vaccinated will get it too.

Since omicron does not cause serious illnesses the more the merrier. It’s the best and most economic form of herd immunity considering the low vaccination rate worldwide.

Surely you jest?

DP, and while I wouldn’t go quite that far yet, I see their point. If things aren’t good enough going into Omicron, I really don’t know what it is going to take for people to move on. Highly effective vaccines weren’t enough, so I guess we need to break people’s fears of case numbers (or at least give them a new anchor point to compare against) along with more infection-acquired immunity. It looks like Omicron might provide those while being generally less severe than Delta. Maybe. We’ll probably know a lot more in a few weeks.

Do you think the main issue is people not moving on? I don't understand. Are you saying the real problem is psychological and not the virus itself?

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Anonymous wrote:question for the virology experts: if omicron turns out to be not virulent at all is it a good idea to get infected? One will get some immunity from the infection but not the sickness, right? Or is it even possible to neutralize the virulent part of its RNA to turn it into some kind of live vaccine?

It would be funny if it works that way. All the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will get vaccinated by breathing.

And vaccinated will get it too.

Since omicron does not cause serious illnesses the more the merrier. It’s the best and most economic form of herd immunity considering the low vaccination rate worldwide.

Surely you jest?

DP, and while I wouldn’t go quite that far yet, I see their point. If things aren’t good enough going into Omicron, I really don’t know what it is going to take for people to move on. Highly effective vaccines weren’t enough, so I guess we need to break people’s fears of case numbers (or at least give them a new anchor point to compare against) along with more infection-acquired immunity. It looks like Omicron might provide those while being generally less severe than Delta. Maybe. We’ll probably know a lot more in a few weeks.

Do you think the main issue is people not moving on? I don't understand. Are you saying the real problem is psychological and not the virus itself?

People are doing such a great job moving on that covid is continuing to spread, including to those vaccinated, and mutate. Given how many people in the US and around the world died, if you aren't the least big concerned, you need to have your mental health checked.

And, be grateful you have good health care. We don't.

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Anonymous wrote:question for the virology experts: if omicron turns out to be not virulent at all is it a good idea to get infected? One will get some immunity from the infection but not the sickness, right? Or is it even possible to neutralize the virulent part of its RNA to turn it into some kind of live vaccine?

It would be funny if it works that way. All the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will get vaccinated by breathing.

And vaccinated will get it too.

Since omicron does not cause serious illnesses the more the merrier. It’s the best and most economic form of herd immunity considering the low vaccination rate worldwide.

Surely you jest?

DP, and while I wouldn’t go quite that far yet, I see their point. If things aren’t good enough going into Omicron, I really don’t know what it is going to take for people to move on. Highly effective vaccines weren’t enough, so I guess we need to break people’s fears of case numbers (or at least give them a new anchor point to compare against) along with more infection-acquired immunity. It looks like Omicron might provide those while being generally less severe than Delta. Maybe. We’ll probably know a lot more in a few weeks.

Do you think the main issue is people not moving on? I don't understand. Are you saying the real problem is psychological and not the virus itself?

People are doing such a great job moving on that covid is continuing to spread, including to those vaccinated, and mutate. Given how many people in the US and around the world died, if you aren't the least big concerned, you need to have your mental health checked.

And, be grateful you have good health care. We don't.

No confirmed death linked to omicron despite that it has been around for a while (a month or so?)

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Anonymous wrote:question for the virology experts: if omicron turns out to be not virulent at all is it a good idea to get infected? One will get some immunity from the infection but not the sickness, right? Or is it even possible to neutralize the virulent part of its RNA to turn it into some kind of live vaccine?

It would be funny if it works that way. All the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will get vaccinated by breathing.

And vaccinated will get it too.

Since omicron does not cause serious illnesses the more the merrier. It’s the best and most economic form of herd immunity considering the low vaccination rate worldwide.

Surely you jest?

DP, and while I wouldn’t go quite that far yet, I see their point. If things aren’t good enough going into Omicron, I really don’t know what it is going to take for people to move on. Highly effective vaccines weren’t enough, so I guess we need to break people’s fears of case numbers (or at least give them a new anchor point to compare against) along with more infection-acquired immunity. It looks like Omicron might provide those while being generally less severe than Delta. Maybe. We’ll probably know a lot more in a few weeks.

Do you think the main issue is people not moving on? I don't understand. Are you saying the real problem is psychological and not the virus itself?

People are doing such a great job moving on that covid is continuing to spread, including to those vaccinated, and mutate. Given how many people in the US and around the world died, if you aren't the least big concerned, you need to have your mental health checked.

And, be grateful you have good health care. We don't.

No confirmed death linked to omicron despite that it has been around for a while (a month or so?)

Its just been found in the US this past week.

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Anonymous wrote:question for the virology experts: if omicron turns out to be not virulent at all is it a good idea to get infected? One will get some immunity from the infection but not the sickness, right? Or is it even possible to neutralize the virulent part of its RNA to turn it into some kind of live vaccine?

It would be funny if it works that way. All the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will get vaccinated by breathing.

And vaccinated will get it too.

Since omicron does not cause serious illnesses the more the merrier. It’s the best and most economic form of herd immunity considering the low vaccination rate worldwide.

Surely you jest?

DP, and while I wouldn’t go quite that far yet, I see their point. If things aren’t good enough going into Omicron, I really don’t know what it is going to take for people to move on. Highly effective vaccines weren’t enough, so I guess we need to break people’s fears of case numbers (or at least give them a new anchor point to compare against) along with more infection-acquired immunity. It looks like Omicron might provide those while being generally less severe than Delta. Maybe. We’ll probably know a lot more in a few weeks.

Do you think the main issue is people not moving on? I don't understand. Are you saying the real problem is psychological and not the virus itself?

People are doing such a great job moving on that covid is continuing to spread, including to those vaccinated, and mutate. Given how many people in the US and around the world died, if you aren't the least big concerned, you need to have your mental health checked.

And, be grateful you have good health care. We don't.

Yes, and many people think it's not a big deal and everyone just gets a cold and moves on.

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Anonymous wrote:question for the virology experts: if omicron turns out to be not virulent at all is it a good idea to get infected? One will get some immunity from the infection but not the sickness, right? Or is it even possible to neutralize the virulent part of its RNA to turn it into some kind of live vaccine?

It would be funny if it works that way. All the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will get vaccinated by breathing.

And vaccinated will get it too.

Since omicron does not cause serious illnesses the more the merrier. It’s the best and most economic form of herd immunity considering the low vaccination rate worldwide.

Surely you jest?

DP, and while I wouldn’t go quite that far yet, I see their point. If things aren’t good enough going into Omicron, I really don’t know what it is going to take for people to move on. Highly effective vaccines weren’t enough, so I guess we need to break people’s fears of case numbers (or at least give them a new anchor point to compare against) along with more infection-acquired immunity. It looks like Omicron might provide those while being generally less severe than Delta. Maybe. We’ll probably know a lot more in a few weeks.

Do you think the main issue is people not moving on? I don't understand. Are you saying the real problem is psychological and not the virus itself?

People are doing such a great job moving on that covid is continuing to spread, including to those vaccinated, and mutate. Given how many people in the US and around the world died, if you aren't the least big concerned, you need to have your mental health checked.

And, be grateful you have good health care. We don't.

If omicron proves to be what it seems to be (highly transmissible but no or mild symptoms) it will be free health care for all.

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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts on the topic from an evolutionary biologist and virologist

Many do. It looks like covid is one of them. Viruses make mistakes when copying themselves including mistakes in the part that is responsible for the virulency. It is an evolution miracle that it gained its virulency in the first place but einstein’s offsprings are no einstein.

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Anonymous wrote:question for the virology experts: if omicron turns out to be not virulent at all is it a good idea to get infected? One will get some immunity from the infection but not the sickness, right? Or is it even possible to neutralize the virulent part of its RNA to turn it into some kind of live vaccine?

It would be funny if it works that way. All the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will get vaccinated by breathing.

And vaccinated will get it too.

Since omicron does not cause serious illnesses the more the merrier. It’s the best and most economic form of herd immunity considering the low vaccination rate worldwide.

Surely you jest?

DP, and while I wouldn’t go quite that far yet, I see their point. If things aren’t good enough going into Omicron, I really don’t know what it is going to take for people to move on. Highly effective vaccines weren’t enough, so I guess we need to break people’s fears of case numbers (or at least give them a new anchor point to compare against) along with more infection-acquired immunity. It looks like Omicron might provide those while being generally less severe than Delta. Maybe. We’ll probably know a lot more in a few weeks.

Do you think the main issue is people not moving on? I don't understand. Are you saying the real problem is psychological and not the virus itself?

Yes, I’m more concerned about society’s ability to move on than I am about Covid at this point. Covid isn’t going away, yet many people have shown no acceptance of that or been able to articulate in any meaningful way what it will take to allow normal lives to resume. We still have kids quarantine for 10-14 days, even if they’re asymptomatic and test negative. And we have people seemingly seriously talking about closing schools. It is crazy. You were never guaranteed a risk-free life. Deal with it.

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Anonymous wrote:question for the virology experts: if omicron turns out to be not virulent at all is it a good idea to get infected? One will get some immunity from the infection but not the sickness, right? Or is it even possible to neutralize the virulent part of its RNA to turn it into some kind of live vaccine?

It would be funny if it works that way. All the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will get vaccinated by breathing.

And vaccinated will get it too.

Since omicron does not cause serious illnesses the more the merrier. It’s the best and most economic form of herd immunity considering the low vaccination rate worldwide.

Surely you jest?

DP, and while I wouldn’t go quite that far yet, I see their point. If things aren’t good enough going into Omicron, I really don’t know what it is going to take for people to move on. Highly effective vaccines weren’t enough, so I guess we need to break people’s fears of case numbers (or at least give them a new anchor point to compare against) along with more infection-acquired immunity. It looks like Omicron might provide those while being generally less severe than Delta. Maybe. We’ll probably know a lot more in a few weeks.

Do you think the main issue is people not moving on? I don't understand. Are you saying the real problem is psychological and not the virus itself?

Yes, I’m more concerned about society’s ability to move on than I am about Covid at this point. Covid isn’t going away, yet many people have shown no acceptance of that or been able to articulate in any meaningful way what it will take to allow normal lives to resume. We still have kids quarantine for 10-14 days, even if they’re asymptomatic and test negative. And we have people seemingly seriously talking about closing schools. It is crazy. You were never guaranteed a risk-free life. Deal with it.

You are right that most people shouldn’t be over-concerned about covid for themselves. But our society has plenty with health issues such that covid could be lethal to them (even with vaccination). Are we all selfish?

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Anonymous wrote:question for the virology experts: if omicron turns out to be not virulent at all is it a good idea to get infected? One will get some immunity from the infection but not the sickness, right? Or is it even possible to neutralize the virulent part of its RNA to turn it into some kind of live vaccine?

It would be funny if it works that way. All the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will get vaccinated by breathing.

And vaccinated will get it too.

Since omicron does not cause serious illnesses the more the merrier. It’s the best and most economic form of herd immunity considering the low vaccination rate worldwide.

Surely you jest?

DP, and while I wouldn’t go quite that far yet, I see their point. If things aren’t good enough going into Omicron, I really don’t know what it is going to take for people to move on. Highly effective vaccines weren’t enough, so I guess we need to break people’s fears of case numbers (or at least give them a new anchor point to compare against) along with more infection-acquired immunity. It looks like Omicron might provide those while being generally less severe than Delta. Maybe. We’ll probably know a lot more in a few weeks.

Do you think the main issue is people not moving on? I don't understand. Are you saying the real problem is psychological and not the virus itself?

People are doing such a great job moving on that covid is continuing to spread, including to those vaccinated, and mutate. Given how many people in the US and around the world died, if you aren't the least big concerned, you need to have your mental health checked.

And, be grateful you have good health care. We don't.

No confirmed death linked to omicron despite that it has been around for a while (a month or so?)

Its just been found in the US this past week.

yes but other countries have gone through samples obtained much earlier. No omicron deaths.

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Anonymous wrote:question for the virology experts: if omicron turns out to be not virulent at all is it a good idea to get infected? One will get some immunity from the infection but not the sickness, right? Or is it even possible to neutralize the virulent part of its RNA to turn it into some kind of live vaccine?

It would be funny if it works that way. All the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will get vaccinated by breathing.

And vaccinated will get it too.

Since omicron does not cause serious illnesses the more the merrier. It’s the best and most economic form of herd immunity considering the low vaccination rate worldwide.

Surely you jest?

DP, and while I wouldn’t go quite that far yet, I see their point. If things aren’t good enough going into Omicron, I really don’t know what it is going to take for people to move on. Highly effective vaccines weren’t enough, so I guess we need to break people’s fears of case numbers (or at least give them a new anchor point to compare against) along with more infection-acquired immunity. It looks like Omicron might provide those while being generally less severe than Delta. Maybe. We’ll probably know a lot more in a few weeks.

Do you think the main issue is people not moving on? I don't understand. Are you saying the real problem is psychological and not the virus itself?

People are doing such a great job moving on that covid is continuing to spread, including to those vaccinated, and mutate. Given how many people in the US and around the world died, if you aren't the least big concerned, you need to have your mental health checked.

And, be grateful you have good health care. We don't.

If omicron proves to be what it seems to be (highly transmissible but no or mild symptoms) it will be free health care for all.

It will never be free health care for all. That makes zero sense.