Concerned about buying in WJ cluster because of re-zoning

[Anonymous]

With new focus on SES diversity, it's likely that WJ/Woodward will be a part of DCC.

[Anonymous]

Some agents were touting about Amazon coming to WF to help with WJ situation. Now that factor is not present here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With new focus on SES diversity, it's likely that WJ/Woodward will be a part of DCC.

There is no focus on "SES diversity". MCPS has no data on SES, just on whether or not the student qualifies for free and reduced meals, which is a measure of (low) household income.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With new focus on SES diversity, it's likely that WJ/Woodward will be a part of DCC.

There is no focus on "SES diversity". MCPS has no data on SES, just on whether or not the student qualifies for free and reduced meals, which is a measure of (low) household income.

This is the new language MCPS uses for the first of four factors to be considered in selecting sites for new schools, changing school boundaries, or establishing geographic student choice assignment plans:

Demographic characteristics of student population
Analyses of options take into account the impact of various options on the overall populations of affected schools. Options should especially strive to create a diverse student body in each of the affected schools in alignment with Board Policy ACD, Quality Integrated Education. Demographic data showing the impact of various options include the following: racial/ethnic composition of the student population, the socioeconomic composition of the student population, the level of English language learners, and other reliable demographic indicators and participation in specific educational programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We’re in the market for home. We love Kensington (Walter Johnson school cluster) and also old farm. But should we be concerned if we buy a home and then the schools get re-zoned? Will that make the property value go down? Are they just thinking of re-zoning the high school or the elementary and middle too, any insight would be appreciated.

Drive by Walter Johnson when school lets out or at lunch time. Bunch of hoodlums go there. I thing property values can only go up if rezoned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’re in the market for home. We love Kensington (Walter Johnson school cluster) and also old farm. But should we be concerned if we buy a home and then the schools get re-zoned? Will that make the property value go down? Are they just thinking of re-zoning the high school or the elementary and middle too, any insight would be appreciated.

Drive by Walter Johnson when school lets out or at lunch time. Bunch of hoodlums go there. I thing property values can only go up if rezoned.

Um I work by there. what hoodlums are you seeing now? Or do you see a couple of black kids that scare you? SMH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With new focus on SES diversity, it's likely that WJ/Woodward will be a part of DCC.

There is no focus on "SES diversity". MCPS has no data on SES, just on whether or not the student qualifies for free and reduced meals, which is a measure of (low) household income.

This is the new language MCPS uses for the first of four factors to be considered in selecting sites for new schools, changing school boundaries, or establishing geographic student choice assignment plans:

Demographic characteristics of student population
Analyses of options take into account the impact of various options on the overall populations of affected schools. Options should especially strive to create a diverse student body in each of the affected schools in alignment with Board Policy ACD, Quality Integrated Education. Demographic data showing the impact of various options include the following: racial/ethnic composition of the student population, the socioeconomic composition of the student population, the level of English language learners, and other reliable demographic indicators and participation in specific educational programs.

OK, but they don't have any data on that.

[Anonymous]

There is no focus on "SES diversity". MCPS has no data on SES, just on whether or not the student qualifies for free and reduced meals, which is a measure of (low) household income.

Wait...of they do. MCPS publishes percentages of FARMS kids. The number reported is lower than the actual population in poverty because some students do not submit the forms but MCPS absolutely has the data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

There is no focus on "SES diversity". MCPS has no data on SES, just on whether or not the student qualifies for free and reduced meals, which is a measure of (low) household income.

Wait...of they do. MCPS publishes percentages of FARMS kids. The number reported is lower than the actual population in poverty because some students do not submit the forms but MCPS absolutely has the data.

That is a measure of household income, not socioeconomic status. Plus it's a categorical measure: either your household income is low enough to qualify for free or reduced meals, or it's not. The student from a household of 4 that has an income of $47,000 per year is in the category "not FARMs", just like the student from a household of 4 that has an income of $470,000 per year or even $4,700,000 per year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With new focus on SES diversity, it's likely that WJ/Woodward will be a part of DCC.

There is no focus on "SES diversity". MCPS has no data on SES, just on whether or not the student qualifies for free and reduced meals, which is a measure of (low) household income.

This is the new language MCPS uses for the first of four factors to be considered in selecting sites for new schools, changing school boundaries, or establishing geographic student choice assignment plans:

Demographic characteristics of student population
Analyses of options take into account the impact of various options on the overall populations of affected schools. Options should especially strive to create a diverse student body in each of the affected schools in alignment with Board Policy ACD, Quality Integrated Education. Demographic data showing the impact of various options include the following: racial/ethnic composition of the student population, the socioeconomic composition of the student population, the level of English language learners, and other reliable demographic indicators and participation in specific educational programs.

OK, but they don't have any data on that.

obviously they can pull it from the census data for any neighborhood just like anyone can...? why are you splitting hairs on this? do you think they are not going to do what they say they are going to do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With new focus on SES diversity, it's likely that WJ/Woodward will be a part of DCC.

There is no focus on "SES diversity". MCPS has no data on SES, just on whether or not the student qualifies for free and reduced meals, which is a measure of (low) household income.

This is the new language MCPS uses for the first of four factors to be considered in selecting sites for new schools, changing school boundaries, or establishing geographic student choice assignment plans:

Demographic characteristics of student population
Analyses of options take into account the impact of various options on the overall populations of affected schools. Options should especially strive to create a diverse student body in each of the affected schools in alignment with Board Policy ACD, Quality Integrated Education. Demographic data showing the impact of various options include the following: racial/ethnic composition of the student population, the socioeconomic composition of the student population, the level of English language learners, and other reliable demographic indicators and participation in specific educational programs.

OK, but they don't have any data on that.

obviously they can pull it from the census data for any neighborhood just like anyone can...? why are you splitting hairs on this? do you think they are not going to do what they say they are going to do?

Here's the old language:

The socioeconomic composition of the student population
as measured by participation in the federal FARMS
program

They haven't pulled Census data for boundary studies. See here, for example: http://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/RMES5_AdoptedBoundaries.pdf Unless you have information that they're going to start now, I don't expect them to start doing it.

[Anonymous]

This is a good article. MCPS is debating between 2022 and 2025 depending on whether woodward houses northwood high while northwood is getting rehabbed. It sounds like the school board wants to use Woodward until 2025 so we wouldn't find out about rezoning until about 2023ish.


https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/a-closer-look-at-mcps-superintendents-proposed-fiscal-2020-capital-budget-cip-amendments/

[Anonymous]

What's the impact on WJ if City of Rockville allows news houses to be built despite schools being at 120% capacity?

Will it have any impact on time line for rezoning?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a good article. MCPS is debating between 2022 and 2025 depending on whether woodward houses northwood high while northwood is getting rehabbed. It sounds like the school board wants to use Woodward until 2025 so we wouldn't find out about rezoning until about 2023ish.


https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/a-closer-look-at-mcps-superintendents-proposed-fiscal-2020-capital-budget-cip-amendments/

Is Woodward the only holding high school in the entire county? What happens when other high schools have renovations in the future?

[Anonymous]

They can make Broom a holding school. If Rockville goes to 150% WJ will be overcrowded faster. No decision on when Woodward will open until next Oct when the CIP comes out and they decide if Woodward will be a holding school for Northwood or not. If yes, Woodward will open in 2025, boundary study 18 months before. If no, will open in 2023, boundary study still 18 months before opening.