Anonymous wrote:How does attendence compare in first semester versus second semester? After winter break, the HS parking lot always seems emptier second semester. Where do all the kids go?
Admission letters are out. Kids who already have their placement only need to maintain they don’t need to excel.
That only explains some seniors. Our HS says the problem exists across all grades. The parking lot is a just a visible sign on the outside.
1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.
The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.
The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.
This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.
High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.
- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)
Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?
The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.
This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.
Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.
So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?
The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.
Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?
And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?
This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.
If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…
Two things:
There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.
And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.
Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.
Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!
The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.
The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.
Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.
The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.
How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)
You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?
That’s…really dramatic.
No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.
For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.
You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.
I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.
This is a remarkable take. No one knows who the teacher is which is the basic definition of “public humiliation”. You need to reevaluate how much parents taking their frustration to the internet actually harms anyone.
Your doctor didn’t make the mistake, her office did. If your doctor had ordered a lab for you that you already had, and you told her you’d already has it, then after they drew your blood she said oh right you had that already, she would apologize if she was a good doctor (unless she’s committing insurance fraud).
And there’s no “twice as much work” to help the student out— it’s twice as much work because she didn’t follow school policy.
It was the doctor’s mistake. And she corrected it. And the world kept spinning.
I didn’t need to come online and complain. I’m a reasonable person and I respect others. And yes, she can still be a good doctor without apologizing.
The parent who started this isn’t being reasonable at all. It’s over. The student has moved on. The teacher corrected the issue and moved on. The parent is online calling the teacher a “jerk” and other teachers “idiots”. And the rest of us have to read it, knowing full well what that poor teacher must be dealing with.
One post ago it was her office and a records mistake. Now it’s her mistake. If it was her mistake she should apologize.
Complaining about a teacher not following countywide policy isn’t unreasonable. Claiming that the complaint is “public humiliation” or “SUFFER AND SUFFER LONG” is an incredible level of drama.
Follow policy.
Listen to students.
Apologize when you’re wrong.
Which of the above is it you think is too much to ask of our heroic teachers?
It was my story. I am the one who said it was the doctor’s mistake. Twice. And no, I don’t care if she apologizes or not. She corrected it. That’s what matters. And I have enough respect for my fellow human beings that I don’t feel the need to call her a “jerk” for her mistake, nor do I feel she owes me an apology. It wasn’t done out of malice and I can give her grace for being human.
What’s dramatic is the depth of nonsense this non-issue has created. Insulting a teacher for a mistake (that she corrected without prompting). Questioning her professionalism.
And yes, I am “heroic”. Thank you for noticing. I am able to give people grace and avoid childish insults. On this thread, that is certainly heroic.
Anonymous wrote:The mom was not there. According to mom, the kid told the teacher ahead of time. Perhaps the quiz covered earlier information and the teacher said to go ahead and take the quiz, knowing that she could give a retake later because of the policy.
I guess the alternative could have been to tell the kid to study while the rest of the kids took the test?
This is a nothingburger, but shows just how ridiculous helicopter parenting has become.
Sounds like the teacher and kid handled it. I just don't see a problem.
She probably had to have the kid take it and then do the retake because otherwise she’d have had to make a completely separate quiz. If the kid was truly upset and negatively affected by this I sincerely hope they don’t intend to be in college in 1-2 years.
1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.
The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.
The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.
This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.
High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.
- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)
Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?
The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.
This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.
Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.
So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?
The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.
Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?
And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?
This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.
If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…
Two things:
There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.
And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.
Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.
Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!
The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.
The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.
Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.
The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.
How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)
You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?
That’s…really dramatic.
No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.
For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.
You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.
I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.
This is a remarkable take. No one knows who the teacher is which is the basic definition of “public humiliation”. You need to reevaluate how much parents taking their frustration to the internet actually harms anyone.
Your doctor didn’t make the mistake, her office did. If your doctor had ordered a lab for you that you already had, and you told her you’d already has it, then after they drew your blood she said oh right you had that already, she would apologize if she was a good doctor (unless she’s committing insurance fraud).
And there’s no “twice as much work” to help the student out— it’s twice as much work because she didn’t follow school policy.
It was the doctor’s mistake. And she corrected it. And the world kept spinning.
I didn’t need to come online and complain. I’m a reasonable person and I respect others. And yes, she can still be a good doctor without apologizing.
The parent who started this isn’t being reasonable at all. It’s over. The student has moved on. The teacher corrected the issue and moved on. The parent is online calling the teacher a “jerk” and other teachers “idiots”. And the rest of us have to read it, knowing full well what that poor teacher must be dealing with.
One post ago it was her office and a records mistake. Now it’s her mistake. If it was her mistake she should apologize.
Complaining about a teacher not following countywide policy isn’t unreasonable. Claiming that the complaint is “public humiliation” or “SUFFER AND SUFFER LONG” is an incredible level of drama.
Follow policy.
Listen to students.
Apologize when you’re wrong.
Which of the above is it you think is too much to ask of our heroic teachers?
+1 this is an anonymous message board.
I brought up the example not because I am still “enraged” or “throwing a tantrum.” Because to me it’s hypocritical. The admin expects students to stay in school all the way up until break. Yet teachers often just do what they want - they take off and miss days before a break. And they sometimes don’t follow policy and aren’t compassionate when students return from illnesses. It makes it incredibly stressful for a good kid.
1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.
The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.
The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.
This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.
High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.
- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)
Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?
The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.
This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.
Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.
So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?
The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.
Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?
And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?
This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.
If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…
Two things:
There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.
And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.
Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.
Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!
The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.
The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.
Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.
The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.
How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)
You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?
That’s…really dramatic.
No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.
For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.
You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.
1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.
The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.
The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.
This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.
High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.
- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)
Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?
The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.
This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.
Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.
So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?
The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.
Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?
And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?
This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.
If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…
Two things:
There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.
And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.
Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.
Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!
The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.
The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.
Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.
The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.
How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)
You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?
That’s…really dramatic.
No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.
For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.
You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.
I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.
This is a remarkable take. No one knows who the teacher is which is the basic definition of “public humiliation”. You need to reevaluate how much parents taking their frustration to the internet actually harms anyone.
Your doctor didn’t make the mistake, her office did. If your doctor had ordered a lab for you that you already had, and you told her you’d already has it, then after they drew your blood she said oh right you had that already, she would apologize if she was a good doctor (unless she’s committing insurance fraud).
And there’s no “twice as much work” to help the student out— it’s twice as much work because she didn’t follow school policy.
It was the doctor’s mistake. And she corrected it. And the world kept spinning.
I didn’t need to come online and complain. I’m a reasonable person and I respect others. And yes, she can still be a good doctor without apologizing.
The parent who started this isn’t being reasonable at all. It’s over. The student has moved on. The teacher corrected the issue and moved on. The parent is online calling the teacher a “jerk” and other teachers “idiots”. And the rest of us have to read it, knowing full well what that poor teacher must be dealing with.
One post ago it was her office and a records mistake. Now it’s her mistake. If it was her mistake she should apologize.
Complaining about a teacher not following countywide policy isn’t unreasonable. Claiming that the complaint is “public humiliation” or “SUFFER AND SUFFER LONG” is an incredible level of drama.
Follow policy.
Listen to students.
Apologize when you’re wrong.
Which of the above is it you think is too much to ask of our heroic teachers?
+1 this is an anonymous message board.
I brought up the example not because I am still “enraged” or “throwing a tantrum.” Because to me it’s hypocritical. The admin expects students to stay in school all the way up until break. Yet teachers often just do what they want - they take off and miss days before a break. And they sometimes don’t follow policy and aren’t compassionate when students return from illnesses. It makes it incredibly stressful for a good kid.
Agreed. If teachers don’t follow countywide policy its irrational to think parents will.
1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.
The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.
The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.
This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.
High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.
- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)
Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?
The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.
This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.
Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.
So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?
The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.
Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?
And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?
This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.
If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…
Two things:
There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.
And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.
Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.
Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!
The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.
The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.
Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.
The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.
How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)
You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?
That’s…really dramatic.
No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.
For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.
You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.
I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.
This is a remarkable take. No one knows who the teacher is which is the basic definition of “public humiliation”. You need to reevaluate how much parents taking their frustration to the internet actually harms anyone.
Your doctor didn’t make the mistake, her office did. If your doctor had ordered a lab for you that you already had, and you told her you’d already has it, then after they drew your blood she said oh right you had that already, she would apologize if she was a good doctor (unless she’s committing insurance fraud).
And there’s no “twice as much work” to help the student out— it’s twice as much work because she didn’t follow school policy.
It was the doctor’s mistake. And she corrected it. And the world kept spinning.
I didn’t need to come online and complain. I’m a reasonable person and I respect others. And yes, she can still be a good doctor without apologizing.
The parent who started this isn’t being reasonable at all. It’s over. The student has moved on. The teacher corrected the issue and moved on. The parent is online calling the teacher a “jerk” and other teachers “idiots”. And the rest of us have to read it, knowing full well what that poor teacher must be dealing with.
One post ago it was her office and a records mistake. Now it’s her mistake. If it was her mistake she should apologize.
Complaining about a teacher not following countywide policy isn’t unreasonable. Claiming that the complaint is “public humiliation” or “SUFFER AND SUFFER LONG” is an incredible level of drama.
Follow policy.
Listen to students.
Apologize when you’re wrong.
Which of the above is it you think is too much to ask of our heroic teachers?
It was my story. I am the one who said it was the doctor’s mistake. Twice. And no, I don’t care if she apologizes or not. She corrected it. That’s what matters. And I have enough respect for my fellow human beings that I don’t feel the need to call her a “jerk” for her mistake, nor do I feel she owes me an apology. It wasn’t done out of malice and I can give her grace for being human.
What’s dramatic is the depth of nonsense this non-issue has created. Insulting a teacher for a mistake (that she corrected without prompting). Questioning her professionalism.
And yes, I am “heroic”. Thank you for noticing. I am able to give people grace and avoid childish insults. On this thread, that is certainly heroic.
Ok, as a self-described heroic teacher, which of the below is too much to expect:
Follow policy.
Listen to students.
Apologize when you’re wrong.
1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.
The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.
The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.
This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.
High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.
- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)
Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?
The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.
This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.
Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.
So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?
The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.
Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?
And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?
This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.
If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…
Two things:
There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.
And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.
Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.
Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!
The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.
The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.
Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.
The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.
How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)
You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?
That’s…really dramatic.
No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.
For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.
You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.
I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.
This is a remarkable take. No one knows who the teacher is which is the basic definition of “public humiliation”. You need to reevaluate how much parents taking their frustration to the internet actually harms anyone.
Your doctor didn’t make the mistake, her office did. If your doctor had ordered a lab for you that you already had, and you told her you’d already has it, then after they drew your blood she said oh right you had that already, she would apologize if she was a good doctor (unless she’s committing insurance fraud).
And there’s no “twice as much work” to help the student out— it’s twice as much work because she didn’t follow school policy.
It was the doctor’s mistake. And she corrected it. And the world kept spinning.
I didn’t need to come online and complain. I’m a reasonable person and I respect others. And yes, she can still be a good doctor without apologizing.
The parent who started this isn’t being reasonable at all. It’s over. The student has moved on. The teacher corrected the issue and moved on. The parent is online calling the teacher a “jerk” and other teachers “idiots”. And the rest of us have to read it, knowing full well what that poor teacher must be dealing with.
One post ago it was her office and a records mistake. Now it’s her mistake. If it was her mistake she should apologize.
Complaining about a teacher not following countywide policy isn’t unreasonable. Claiming that the complaint is “public humiliation” or “SUFFER AND SUFFER LONG” is an incredible level of drama.
Follow policy.
Listen to students.
Apologize when you’re wrong.
Which of the above is it you think is too much to ask of our heroic teachers?
+1 this is an anonymous message board.
I brought up the example not because I am still “enraged” or “throwing a tantrum.” Because to me it’s hypocritical. The admin expects students to stay in school all the way up until break. Yet teachers often just do what they want - they take off and miss days before a break. And they sometimes don’t follow policy and aren’t compassionate when students return from illnesses. It makes it incredibly stressful for a good kid.
Agreed. If teachers don’t follow countywide policy its irrational to think parents will.
1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.
The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.
The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.
This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.
High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.
- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)
Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?
The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.
This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.
Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.
So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?
The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.
Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?
And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?
This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.
If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…
Two things:
There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.
And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.
Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.
Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!
The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.
The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.
Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.
The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.
How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)
You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?
That’s…really dramatic.
No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.
For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.
You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.
I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.
Here it’s your doctor’s office.
And also the dr mistake was corrected immediately once it was known. This teacher knew the kid was absent (kid explained and advocated), and yet still proceeded to go against the policy and make the kid take the quiz….Make it make sense!
1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.
The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.
The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.
This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.
High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.
- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)
Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?
The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.
This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.
Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.
So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?
The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.
Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?
And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?
This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.
If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…
Two things:
There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.
And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.
Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.
Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!
The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.
The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.
Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.
The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.
How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)
You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?
That’s…really dramatic.
No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.
For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.
You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.
I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.
Here it’s your doctor’s office.
And also the dr mistake was corrected immediately once it was known. This teacher knew the kid was absent (kid explained and advocated), and yet still proceeded to go against the policy and make the kid take the quiz….Make it make sense!
And, teacher may have said (assuming kid actually protested and advocated against the quiz--which may or may not be true) to go ahead and take it you may do better than you think.
I know that way back when I was in high school, being absent prior to test would have meant you still take the test.
I really do not understand why mom is so stressed about this.
1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.
The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.
The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.
This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.
High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.
- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)
Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?
The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.
This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.
Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.
So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?
The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.
Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?
And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?
This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.
If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…
Two things:
There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.
And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.
Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.
Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!
The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.
The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.
Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.
The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.
How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)
You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?
That’s…really dramatic.
No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.
For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.
You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.
I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.
Here it’s your doctor’s office.
And also the dr mistake was corrected immediately once it was known. This teacher knew the kid was absent (kid explained and advocated), and yet still proceeded to go against the policy and make the kid take the quiz….Make it make sense!
And, teacher may have said (assuming kid actually protested and advocated against the quiz--which may or may not be true) to go ahead and take it you may do better than you think.
I know that way back when I was in high school, being absent prior to test would have meant you still take the test.
I really do not understand why mom is so stressed about this.
I’m not the mom, but would been annoyed because the 2026-2026 rules weren’t followed after the student alerted the teacher to their mistake. Most parents (and good teachers) don’t recreationally stress out sick kids by making them fail quizzes they had no way to prepare for and by policy don’t have to take.
The number of teachers claiming this is fine is kind of disturbing. I’ve only encountered one teacher who would behave this way IRL (and was constantly overruled by the principal)
1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.
The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.
The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.
This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.
High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.
- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)
Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?
The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.
This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.
Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.
So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?
The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.
Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?
And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?
This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.
If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…
Two things:
There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.
And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.
Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.
Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!
The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.
The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.
Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.
The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.
How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)
You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?
That’s…really dramatic.
No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.
For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.
You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.
I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.
Here it’s your doctor’s office.
And also the dr mistake was corrected immediately once it was known. This teacher knew the kid was absent (kid explained and advocated), and yet still proceeded to go against the policy and make the kid take the quiz….Make it make sense!
And, teacher may have said (assuming kid actually protested and advocated against the quiz--which may or may not be true) to go ahead and take it you may do better than you think.
I know that way back when I was in high school, being absent prior to test would have meant you still take the test.
I really do not understand why mom is so stressed about this.
I’m not the mom, but would been annoyed because the 2026-2026 rules weren’t followed after the student alerted the teacher to their mistake. Most parents (and good teachers) don’t recreationally stress out sick kids by making them fail quizzes they had no way to prepare for and by policy don’t have to take.
The number of teachers claiming this is fine is kind of disturbing. I’ve only encountered one teacher who would behave this way IRL (and was constantly overruled by the principal)
Curious. Just maybe the kid did not protest. Mom was not there.
1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.
The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.
The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.
This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.
High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.
- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)
Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?
The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.
This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.
Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.
So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?
The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.
Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?
And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?
This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.
If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…
Two things:
There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.
And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.
Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.
Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!
The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.
The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.
Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.
The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.
How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)
You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?
That’s…really dramatic.
No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.
For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.
You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.
I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.
Here it’s your doctor’s office.
And also the dr mistake was corrected immediately once it was known. This teacher knew the kid was absent (kid explained and advocated), and yet still proceeded to go against the policy and make the kid take the quiz….Make it make sense!
And, teacher may have said (assuming kid actually protested and advocated against the quiz--which may or may not be true) to go ahead and take it you may do better than you think.
I know that way back when I was in high school, being absent prior to test would have meant you still take the test.
I really do not understand why mom is so stressed about this.
I’m not the mom, but would been annoyed because the 2026-2026 rules weren’t followed after the student alerted the teacher to their mistake. Most parents (and good teachers) don’t recreationally stress out sick kids by making them fail quizzes they had no way to prepare for and by policy don’t have to take.
The number of teachers claiming this is fine is kind of disturbing. I’ve only encountered one teacher who would behave this way IRL (and was constantly overruled by the principal)
Curious. Just maybe the kid did not protest. Mom was not there.
The kid reported they did. None of us were there either, so you’re just making things up to favor the teacher.
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