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Anonymous wrote:As I read the situation.

1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.

The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.

The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.

This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.

High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.

- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)

Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?

The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.

This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.

Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.

So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?

The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.

Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?

And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?

This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.

If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…

Two things:

There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.

And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.

Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.

Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!

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Anonymous wrote:As I read the situation.

1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.

The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.

The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.

This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.

High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.

- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)

Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?

The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.

This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.

Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.

So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?

The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.

Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?

And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?

This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.

If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…

Two things:

There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.

And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.

Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.

Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!

The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.

The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.

Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.

The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.

How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As I read the situation.

1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.

The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.

The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.

This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.

High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.

- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)

Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?

The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.

This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.

Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.

So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?

The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.

Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?

And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?

This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.

If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…

Two things:

There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.

And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.

Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.

Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!

The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.

The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.

Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.

The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.

How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)

You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?

That’s…really dramatic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As I read the situation.

1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.

The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.

The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.

This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.

High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.

- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)

Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?

The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.

This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.

Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.

So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?

The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.

Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?

And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?

This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.

If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…

Two things:

There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.

And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.

Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.

Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!

The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.

The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.

Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.

The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.

How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)

Are you the same poster who said teachers don’t fear accountability?

Wherever the teacher goes after leaving teaching, they will be expected to apologize (at minimum) when they don’t follow policies and make foolish mistakes (foolish because the facts were so easily verified).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As I read the situation.

1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.

The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.

The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.

This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.

High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.

- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)

Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?

The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.

This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.

Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.

So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?

The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.

Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?

And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?

This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.

If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…

Two things:

There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.

And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.

Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.

Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!

The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.

The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.

Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.

The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.

How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)

You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?

That’s…really dramatic.

No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.

For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.

You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.

I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.

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Anonymous wrote:As I read the situation.

1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.

The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.

The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.

This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.

High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.

- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)

Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?

The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.

This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.

Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.

So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?

The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.

Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?

And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?

This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.

If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…

All this, over a quiz?

I was a teacher. Elementary. However, i have two kids who have graduated from high school so i do know teenagers.

My guess: class began. Teacher handed out quizzes or however they do it these days. PP's child likely said nothing until after the quiz was graded.
I assume this was high school or middle school. Teacher likely has 150 students. Teacher is doing well if she remembers everyone's name, not to mention who was absent last class.

Mom needs to get a life. Teacher let child retake the quiz. Done.

I’m a high school teacher and I agree. I RARELY remember from day to day who was absent last class. Probably she passed the quiz out, the kid took it and then said they were out, and she said oh ok just do a retake. Alternately, maybe she had the kid take it just to see how they’d do it on it because sometimes it happens that the kid does just fine on the quiz and you don’t even need to bother with a retake. It is so far from a big deal that it’s crazy how much of a fuss this mom is making of it. Zero harm was done here.

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Anonymous wrote:As I read the situation.

1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.

The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.

The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.

This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.

High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.

- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)

Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?

The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.

This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.

Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.

So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?

The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.

Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?

And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?

This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.

If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…

All this, over a quiz?

I was a teacher. Elementary. However, i have two kids who have graduated from high school so i do know teenagers.

My guess: class began. Teacher handed out quizzes or however they do it these days. PP's child likely said nothing until after the quiz was graded.
I assume this was high school or middle school. Teacher likely has 150 students. Teacher is doing well if she remembers everyone's name, not to mention who was absent last class.

Mom needs to get a life. Teacher let child retake the quiz. Done.

I’m a high school teacher and I agree. I RARELY remember from day to day who was absent last class. Probably she passed the quiz out, the kid took it and then said they were out, and she said oh ok just do a retake. Alternately, maybe she had the kid take it just to see how they’d do it on it because sometimes it happens that the kid does just fine on the quiz and you don’t even need to bother with a retake. It is so far from a big deal that it’s crazy how much of a fuss this mom is making of it. Zero harm was done here.

Another high school teacher here and I agree.

I’m very good at record keeping, but having 30 people needing me simultaneously means that I often can’t make it back to my desk to see my notes.

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Anonymous wrote:As I read the situation.

1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.

The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.

The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.

This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.

High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.

- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)

Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?

The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.

This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.

Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.

So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?

The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.

Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?

And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?

This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.

If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…

Two things:

There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.

And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.

Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.

Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!

The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.

The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.

Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.

The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.

How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)

You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?

That’s…really dramatic.

No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.

For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.

You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.

I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.

This is a remarkable take. No one knows who the teacher is which is the basic definition of “public humiliation”. You need to reevaluate how much parents taking their frustration to the internet actually harms anyone.

Your doctor didn’t make the mistake, her office did. If your doctor had ordered a lab for you that you already had, and you told her you’d already has it, then after they drew your blood she said oh right you had that already, she would apologize if she was a good doctor (unless she’s committing insurance fraud).

And there’s no “twice as much work” to help the student out— it’s twice as much work because she didn’t follow school policy.

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Anonymous wrote:As I read the situation.

1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.

The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.

The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.

This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.

High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.

- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)

Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?

The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.

This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.

Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.

So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?

The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.

Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?

And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?

This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.

If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…

Two things:

There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.

And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.

Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.

Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!

The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.

The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.

Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.

The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.

How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)

You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?

That’s…really dramatic.

No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.

For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.

You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.

I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.

This is a remarkable take. No one knows who the teacher is which is the basic definition of “public humiliation”. You need to reevaluate how much parents taking their frustration to the internet actually harms anyone.

Your doctor didn’t make the mistake, her office did. If your doctor had ordered a lab for you that you already had, and you told her you’d already has it, then after they drew your blood she said oh right you had that already, she would apologize if she was a good doctor (unless she’s committing insurance fraud).

And there’s no “twice as much work” to help the student out— it’s twice as much work because she didn’t follow school policy.

It was the doctor’s mistake. And she corrected it. And the world kept spinning.
I didn’t need to come online and complain. I’m a reasonable person and I respect others. And yes, she can still be a good doctor without apologizing.

The parent who started this isn’t being reasonable at all. It’s over. The student has moved on. The teacher corrected the issue and moved on. The parent is online calling the teacher a “jerk” and other teachers “idiots”. And the rest of us have to read it, knowing full well what that poor teacher must be dealing with.

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Anonymous wrote:As I read the situation.

1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.

The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.

The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.

This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.

High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.

- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)

Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?

The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.

This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.

Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.

So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?

The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.

Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?

And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?

This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.

If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…

Two things:

There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.

And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.

Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.

Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!

The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.

The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.

Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.

The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.

How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)

You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?

That’s…really dramatic.

No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.

For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.

You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.

I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.

This is a remarkable take. No one knows who the teacher is which is the basic definition of “public humiliation”. You need to reevaluate how much parents taking their frustration to the internet actually harms anyone.

Your doctor didn’t make the mistake, her office did. If your doctor had ordered a lab for you that you already had, and you told her you’d already has it, then after they drew your blood she said oh right you had that already, she would apologize if she was a good doctor (unless she’s committing insurance fraud).

And there’s no “twice as much work” to help the student out— it’s twice as much work because she didn’t follow school policy.

It was the doctor’s mistake. And she corrected it. And the world kept spinning.
I didn’t need to come online and complain. I’m a reasonable person and I respect others. And yes, she can still be a good doctor without apologizing.

The parent who started this isn’t being reasonable at all. It’s over. The student has moved on. The teacher corrected the issue and moved on. The parent is online calling the teacher a “jerk” and other teachers “idiots”. And the rest of us have to read it, knowing full well what that poor teacher must be dealing with.

Mom here. I didn’t call other teachers “idiots” for being teachers. I called other posters here idiots who kept saying there “must be more to the story because I didn’t share how many days my child was out (when in fact I did and they just didn’t bother to read the thread). Those are the idiots.

But carry on.

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Anonymous wrote:As I read the situation.

1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.

The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.

The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.

This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.

High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.

- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)

Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?

The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.

This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.

Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.

So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?

The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.

Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?

And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?

This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.

If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…

Two things:

There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.

And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.

Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.

Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!

The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.

The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.

Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.

The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.

How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)

You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?

That’s…really dramatic.

No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.

For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.

You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.

I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.

This is a remarkable take. No one knows who the teacher is which is the basic definition of “public humiliation”. You need to reevaluate how much parents taking their frustration to the internet actually harms anyone.

Your doctor didn’t make the mistake, her office did. If your doctor had ordered a lab for you that you already had, and you told her you’d already has it, then after they drew your blood she said oh right you had that already, she would apologize if she was a good doctor (unless she’s committing insurance fraud).

And there’s no “twice as much work” to help the student out— it’s twice as much work because she didn’t follow school policy.

It was the doctor’s mistake. And she corrected it. And the world kept spinning.
I didn’t need to come online and complain. I’m a reasonable person and I respect others. And yes, she can still be a good doctor without apologizing.

The parent who started this isn’t being reasonable at all. It’s over. The student has moved on. The teacher corrected the issue and moved on. The parent is online calling the teacher a “jerk” and other teachers “idiots”. And the rest of us have to read it, knowing full well what that poor teacher must be dealing with.

Mom here. I didn’t call other teachers “idiots” for being teachers. I called other posters here idiots who kept saying there “must be more to the story because I didn’t share how many days my child was out (when in fact I did and they just didn’t bother to read the thread). Those are the idiots.

But carry on.

And I think a teacher who insists a kid takes a quiz despite explanations about being sick is a jerk.

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1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.

The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.

The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.

This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.

High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.

- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)

Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?

The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.

This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.

Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.

So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?

The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.

Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?

And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?

This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.

If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…

Two things:

There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.

And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.

Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.

Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!

The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.

The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.

Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.

The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.

How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)

You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?

That’s…really dramatic.

No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.

For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.

You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.

I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.

This is a remarkable take. No one knows who the teacher is which is the basic definition of “public humiliation”. You need to reevaluate how much parents taking their frustration to the internet actually harms anyone.

Your doctor didn’t make the mistake, her office did. If your doctor had ordered a lab for you that you already had, and you told her you’d already has it, then after they drew your blood she said oh right you had that already, she would apologize if she was a good doctor (unless she’s committing insurance fraud).

And there’s no “twice as much work” to help the student out— it’s twice as much work because she didn’t follow school policy.

It was the doctor’s mistake. And she corrected it. And the world kept spinning.
I didn’t need to come online and complain. I’m a reasonable person and I respect others. And yes, she can still be a good doctor without apologizing.

The parent who started this isn’t being reasonable at all. It’s over. The student has moved on. The teacher corrected the issue and moved on. The parent is online calling the teacher a “jerk” and other teachers “idiots”. And the rest of us have to read it, knowing full well what that poor teacher must be dealing with.

Mom here. I didn’t call other teachers “idiots” for being teachers. I called other posters here idiots who kept saying there “must be more to the story because I didn’t share how many days my child was out (when in fact I did and they just didn’t bother to read the thread). Those are the idiots.

But carry on.

Your explanation doesn’t make you look any better. I’m never impressed by people who resort to childish insults.

And, I guess I’m one of the “idiots” because I would love to hear the teacher’s side of this. Heck, I’d like to hear your child’s side of this. I suspect both stories are rather benign compared to your outrage over a minor quiz retake.

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Anonymous wrote:As I read the situation.

1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.

The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.

The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.

This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.

High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.

- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)

Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?

The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.

This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.

Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.

So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?

The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.

Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?

And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?

This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.

If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…

Two things:

There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.

And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.

Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.

Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!

The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.

The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.

Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.

The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.

How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)

You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?

That’s…really dramatic.

No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.

For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.

You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.

I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.

This is a remarkable take. No one knows who the teacher is which is the basic definition of “public humiliation”. You need to reevaluate how much parents taking their frustration to the internet actually harms anyone.

Your doctor didn’t make the mistake, her office did. If your doctor had ordered a lab for you that you already had, and you told her you’d already has it, then after they drew your blood she said oh right you had that already, she would apologize if she was a good doctor (unless she’s committing insurance fraud).

And there’s no “twice as much work” to help the student out— it’s twice as much work because she didn’t follow school policy.

It was the doctor’s mistake. And she corrected it. And the world kept spinning.
I didn’t need to come online and complain. I’m a reasonable person and I respect others. And yes, she can still be a good doctor without apologizing.

The parent who started this isn’t being reasonable at all. It’s over. The student has moved on. The teacher corrected the issue and moved on. The parent is online calling the teacher a “jerk” and other teachers “idiots”. And the rest of us have to read it, knowing full well what that poor teacher must be dealing with.

Mom here. I didn’t call other teachers “idiots” for being teachers. I called other posters here idiots who kept saying there “must be more to the story because I didn’t share how many days my child was out (when in fact I did and they just didn’t bother to read the thread). Those are the idiots.

But carry on.

And I think a teacher who insists a kid takes a quiz despite explanations about being sick is a jerk.

Regardless of whether the teacher is a jerk (sounds like they may be but leaving it aside) we can all agree the teacher was entirely in violation of policy.

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Anonymous wrote:As I read the situation.

1) Child was out sick and didn’t have access to the work.
2) Child returned to school and took a quiz they were upreared for because the teacher told them to take the quiz even without access to the work.
3) Child was upset because the child was unrepared. This most likely caused some distress for the child, no idea how much.
4) Child failed the quiz
5) Teacher allowed a retake and the child did fine on it.

The parent is upset that the kid had to take the first quiz, because the kid had been out sick, didn’t have access to the material, and the kid was distressed at having failed a quiz. The parent is still worked up about this even though the kid took a make u and did fine. Or, alternatively, they posted this as an example of teachers not being perfect and their being annoyed that the teacher caused their kid some extra stress.

The parent can use this as a teaching tool for herself and her kid, people are not perfect but you took the make up and did fine. Maybe the teacher thought the student had access to the material and had looked at it. Maybe the teacher thought that the kid would be fine on the quiz and didn’t want the kid sitting there doing nothing while the rest of the class took the quiz. Maybe the teacher made a mistake. But, quizzes are part of the 10% of a grade and doing poorly on one is not going to sink your grade long term. And, in the long run, the kid retook the quiz and there was no harm done.

This exactly. This happens all the time though. And causes stress to kids who were genuinely sick. I would love to see a bit more compassion from high school teachers. Especially when many of them take off the week before winter break. Which goes back to the original topic.

High school teacher here. I’ve learned that when you give people kindness and compassion, they expect the well to be bottomless. Teachers give and give and give and give.

- a teacher who has taken one personal day in the past couple of years to drop off a kid from college. No vacations here. (This, by the way, is what most teachers do since it’s harder to take leave than it is to stay at work. Who are all these teachers taking week long vacations?)

Like… Asking people to support teachers for example? Well should be bottomless?

The poster’s kid already got sympathy in a form of an immediate retake without any questions asked. Seems as if this teacher is already being quite compassionate. I’m guessing the teacher was compassionate toward the kid in the classroom as well, but mom isn’t going to acknowledge that.

This is a non-issue in a profession that deals with real issues every day. Yes, teachers are compassionate, and we have to spend our limited emotional currency on students to the point we have none left for our own families. I have compassion for the child in this situation, but very little for the mother who has been quite insulting.

Following county policy isn’t “compassionate”. You seem to be mistaking the floor for the ceiling.

So the teacher made a mistake. Would you like her publicly flogged? A written reprimand in her file? What about fired?

The mom has already come online to call her a “jerk” and anybody standing up for her “idiots”… so I’m guessing mom would be thrilled with one of the options above.

Or she can move on and realize the teacher is a human making thousands of decisions a day. She made a bad call on this one and corrected it. Does she deserve mom’s continued ire?

And is anyone left wondering why teachers are fleeing this profession? Dealing with this?

This is the first acknowledgement you’ve made that the teacher was wrong. Has the teacher acknowledged that and apologized to the student? That’s the first step in everyone moving on.

If teachers “flee the profession” because of accountability for their mistakes, I pray they don’t go into medicine…

Two things:

There are multiple posters on this site. I HAVE mentioned it as a mistake. And I bet the teacher did apologize or acknowledge the situation. The raging mom (you?) were not in the classroom and likely has no clue what transpired. Seems the student has moved on, so I’m guessing everything was above board and okay.

And no teacher is afraid of accountability, but if we lose our heads over every little thing that happens during our RIDICULOUSLY busy and stressful days with no break, we won’t make it to the last period of the day. So we learn to triage and handle things by level of importance. Isn’t that… medical terminology. Huh. Maybe we’d be very good at that profession, too.

Nope not my kid. Just someone with the common sense to know you don’t make a kid who has been out for two days take a quiz about it— and a FCPS parent who knows it violates policy.

Good luck on the MCATS! Please treat your future patients with more respect than this student was treated with!

The teacher wouldnt know your kid had been out for two days since your kid only missed one day ofmthe teacher's class. Additionally, if you think a teacher will remember, on Tuesday, who was absent the previous Friday, you have extremely unrealistic and unreasonable expectations.

The parent said the student told the teacher before the quiz. If the teacher didn’t believe the student for some reason, it’s easily confirmed. Teacher was too lazy to check and got it wrong. An apology is owed as well as the makeup. Nothing complicated here.

Try teaching for just one day. Just ONE DAY. You know how it’s difficult dealing with 2-3 kids at home, tracking all of their work? Consider how challenging it is to track 150 students at once.

The teacher did all that’s expected. Period. There’s no need for public humiliation, etc. The idea that some posters here need the teacher to SUFFER and SUFFER LONG for something that was so easily reconciled is really discouraging.

How are we going to keep people willing to teach if one ridiculously minor misstep means they must endure this amount of nonsense from a vindictive parent? (And again… does the student even care?)

You think apologizing when you’re wrong is “public humiliation” and that being expected to do so is “SUFFER(ing)”?

That’s…really dramatic.

No, the PAGES of discussion here is the public humiliation, as well as the multiple insults written by the mother.

For all we know, the teacher did apologize. Heck, she clearly was willing to do twice as much work to help the child out.

You know what I did when my doctor’s office made a records mistake recently? I sent a message to my doctor, who promptly replied and said she would fix it. She didn’t apologize, and I’m not sure why I’d need one. I just wanted the paperwork fixed, and that was a bigger deal than this because it was medical records.

I didn’t come here to insult her. I moved on.

This is a remarkable take. No one knows who the teacher is which is the basic definition of “public humiliation”. You need to reevaluate how much parents taking their frustration to the internet actually harms anyone.

Your doctor didn’t make the mistake, her office did. If your doctor had ordered a lab for you that you already had, and you told her you’d already has it, then after they drew your blood she said oh right you had that already, she would apologize if she was a good doctor (unless she’s committing insurance fraud).

And there’s no “twice as much work” to help the student out— it’s twice as much work because she didn’t follow school policy.

It was the doctor’s mistake. And she corrected it. And the world kept spinning.
I didn’t need to come online and complain. I’m a reasonable person and I respect others. And yes, she can still be a good doctor without apologizing.

The parent who started this isn’t being reasonable at all. It’s over. The student has moved on. The teacher corrected the issue and moved on. The parent is online calling the teacher a “jerk” and other teachers “idiots”. And the rest of us have to read it, knowing full well what that poor teacher must be dealing with.

One post ago it was her office and a records mistake. Now it’s her mistake. If it was her mistake she should apologize.

Complaining about a teacher not following countywide policy isn’t unreasonable. Claiming that the complaint is “public humiliation” or “SUFFER AND SUFFER LONG” is an incredible level of drama.

Follow policy.
Listen to students.
Apologize when you’re wrong.

Which of the above is it you think is too much to ask of our heroic teachers?

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The mom was not there. According to mom, the kid told the teacher ahead of time. Perhaps the quiz covered earlier information and the teacher said to go ahead and take the quiz, knowing that she could give a retake later because of the policy.
I guess the alternative could have been to tell the kid to study while the rest of the kids took the test?

This is a nothingburger, but shows just how ridiculous helicopter parenting has become.

Sounds like the teacher and kid handled it. I just don't see a problem.