Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

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Anonymous wrote:Trump doesnt have the best judgment or good morals. But I have trouble believing he would sell classified documents. If you look through prosecutions of people selling classified, the people selling really didnt make much money at all, certainly not enough for any normal person to think represents a good risk/reward proposition. Trump is a wealthy man and can always make money selling his time as a speaker, etc in the same way that prior presidents did. Espionage is for nobodies, middling professionals usually no higher than GG-15s.


Oh, I don't think he is looking for money in return - he's looking for foreign help for another win in 2024.


You'd think he would sell agreements to support certain policies or actions in exchange for help. Not a classified document, like a peasant.


It's possible that the documents in question might help certain foreign countries (cough cough, Russia) get him elected again. Documents about vulnerabilities in US election systems, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:This is all backfiring. People who thought the FBI being weaponized was a conspiracy theory are now changing their minds.

I seriously doubt that. People who spout GOP talking points will say this because it’s a GOP talking point, but everyone else finds it 100% believable that the FBI had probable cause for a search warrant.


It’s not a matter of believability. The FBI had to make a showing of PC to a federal magistrate by sworn oath. And you better damn well understand that the weight of evidence for such a showing had to be monumental, including that the documents were known to be there days if not hours before.


Like with the FISAs, right? And yet...


And yet those 25 boxes of classified documents...
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump doesnt have the best judgment or good morals. But I have trouble believing he would sell classified documents. If you look through prosecutions of people selling classified, the people selling really didnt make much money at all, certainly not enough for any normal person to think represents a good risk/reward proposition. Trump is a wealthy man and can always make money selling his time as a speaker, etc in the same way that prior presidents did. Espionage is for nobodies, middling professionals usually no higher than GG-15s.


he likes to feel important. why did he release the name of a person in IC to the Russians? it isn't for the $$. it is to feel like a big shot.


I can see him spilling info; he already did that. But I think it would be degrading to him to literally sell documents. It would be like El Chapo selling pot on a street corner.


You know you're talking about Trump, right? The purveyor of Trump Steaks.
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Anonymous wrote:The FBI was required to provide a receipt for the inventory of siezed materials. Why isn’t every Democrat in Congress demanding that this be released by TFG?


Please share a reputable source claiming this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump doesnt have the best judgment or good morals. But I have trouble believing he would sell classified documents. If you look through prosecutions of people selling classified, the people selling really didnt make much money at all, certainly not enough for any normal person to think represents a good risk/reward proposition. Trump is a wealthy man and can always make money selling his time as a speaker, etc in the same way that prior presidents did. Espionage is for nobodies, middling professionals usually no higher than GG-15s.


he likes to feel important. why did he release the name of a person in IC to the Russians? it isn't for the $$. it is to feel like a big shot.


I can see him spilling info; he already did that. But I think it would be degrading to him to literally sell documents. It would be like El Chapo selling pot on a street corner.


You know you're talking about Trump, right? The purveyor of Trump Steaks.


And Trump Ties etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The FBI was required to provide a receipt for the inventory of siezed materials. Why isn’t every Democrat in Congress demanding that this be released by TFG?


Please share a reputable source claiming this.


Claiming what? That the FBI has to leave a receipt? That's the law. https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_41
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The FBI was required to provide a receipt for the inventory of siezed materials. Why isn’t every Democrat in Congress demanding that this be released by TFG?


Please share a reputable source claiming this.


Trump can release the receipt. He should also release the warrant as they often have an attachment with the proposed crimes, but we know that won’t happen because he does better on what ifs and fake rhetoric.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump doesnt have the best judgment or good morals. But I have trouble believing he would sell classified documents. If you look through prosecutions of people selling classified, the people selling really didnt make much money at all, certainly not enough for any normal person to think represents a good risk/reward proposition. Trump is a wealthy man and can always make money selling his time as a speaker, etc in the same way that prior presidents did. Espionage is for nobodies, middling professionals usually no higher than GG-15s.


he likes to feel important. why did he release the name of a person in IC to the Russians? it isn't for the $$. it is to feel like a big shot.


I can see him spilling info; he already did that. But I think it would be degrading to him to literally sell documents. It would be like El Chapo selling pot on a street corner.


You know you're talking about Trump, right? The purveyor of Trump Steaks.


And Trump Ties etc.


Yeah but he didnt personally sell them. He branded them, which is what people do to make a lot of money. I just find it implausible that Trump would sell the documents. How would he even do it? The typical ways people do this would not be available to him because, well, he is literally followed at all times by federal enforcement officers (secret service).

As for the "intelligence" about weaknesses in our election system- that is nonsensical. By its very nature, intelligence is information about other countries. So he would sell their own information back to them? Does thaf make any sense? "Vlad, you interfered with our election. Heres our report on how you did it." He knows how he did it, because he did it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump doesnt have the best judgment or good morals. But I have trouble believing he would sell classified documents. If you look through prosecutions of people selling classified, the people selling really didnt make much money at all, certainly not enough for any normal person to think represents a good risk/reward proposition. Trump is a wealthy man and can always make money selling his time as a speaker, etc in the same way that prior presidents did. Espionage is for nobodies, middling professionals usually no higher than GG-15s.


he likes to feel important. why did he release the name of a person in IC to the Russians? it isn't for the $$. it is to feel like a big shot.


I can see him spilling info; he already did that. But I think it would be degrading to him to literally sell documents. It would be like El Chapo selling pot on a street corner.


You know you're talking about Trump, right? The purveyor of Trump Steaks.


And Trump Ties etc.


Yeah but he didnt personally sell them. He branded them, which is what people do to make a lot of money. I just find it implausible that Trump would sell the documents. How would he even do it? The typical ways people do this would not be available to him because, well, he is literally followed at all times by federal enforcement officers (secret service).

As for the "intelligence" about weaknesses in our election system- that is nonsensical. By its very nature, intelligence is information about other countries. So he would sell their own information back to them? Does thaf make any sense? "Vlad, you interfered with our election. Heres our report on how you did it." He knows how he did it, because he did it.


I don't know. Maybe you could leave them in an unsecured location in the basement of your hotel that is frequented by foreign visitors on a regular basis.

Classified information most certainly includes information about the US and its vulnerabilities (as well as its plans, capabilities, etc.). You have no idea what you are talking about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The FBI was required to provide a receipt for the inventory of siezed materials. Why isn’t every Democrat in Congress demanding that this be released by TFG?


Please share a reputable source claiming this.


Claiming what? That the FBI has to leave a receipt? That's the law. https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_41


Are you saying they should demand Trump release it or it should be released without his consent? I asked for a source because I thought you meant that the FBI didn't give Trump release a receipt of seized material. Trump's lawyer confirmed they took boxes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump doesnt have the best judgment or good morals. But I have trouble believing he would sell classified documents. If you look through prosecutions of people selling classified, the people selling really didnt make much money at all, certainly not enough for any normal person to think represents a good risk/reward proposition. Trump is a wealthy man and can always make money selling his time as a speaker, etc in the same way that prior presidents did. Espionage is for nobodies, middling professionals usually no higher than GG-15s.


Do you really think that Trump will turn down money if offered? Or "favors" in exchange for information? And can you imagine the sort of information he has access to that your average espionage nobodies have?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The FBI was required to provide a receipt for the inventory of siezed materials. Why isn’t every Democrat in Congress demanding that this be released by TFG?


Please share a reputable source claiming this.


Claiming what? That the FBI has to leave a receipt? That's the law. https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_41


Are you saying they should demand Trump release it or it should be released without his consent? I asked for a source because I thought you meant that the FBI didn't give Trump release a receipt of seized material. Trump's lawyer confirmed they took boxes.


NP, but the sentence above obviously saying that they should demand Trump release it. He has the receipt.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The FBI was required to provide a receipt for the inventory of siezed materials. Why isn’t every Democrat in Congress demanding that this be released by TFG?

Just once could Trump just release something without having to be begged, cajoled or sued into doing so? Maybe Sleazy Wheezy could just do the right thing for once.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump doesnt have the best judgment or good morals. But I have trouble believing he would sell classified documents. If you look through prosecutions of people selling classified, the people selling really didnt make much money at all, certainly not enough for any normal person to think represents a good risk/reward proposition. Trump is a wealthy man and can always make money selling his time as a speaker, etc in the same way that prior presidents did. Espionage is for nobodies, middling professionals usually no higher than GG-15s.


he likes to feel important. why did he release the name of a person in IC to the Russians? it isn't for the $$. it is to feel like a big shot.


I can see him spilling info; he already did that. But I think it would be degrading to him to literally sell documents. It would be like El Chapo selling pot on a street corner.


You know you're talking about Trump, right? The purveyor of Trump Steaks.


And Trump Ties etc.


Yeah but he didnt personally sell them. He branded them, which is what people do to make a lot of money. I just find it implausible that Trump would sell the documents. How would he even do it? The typical ways people do this would not be available to him because, well, he is literally followed at all times by federal enforcement officers (secret service).

As for the "intelligence" about weaknesses in our election system- that is nonsensical. By its very nature, intelligence is information about other countries. So he would sell their own information back to them? Does thaf make any sense? "Vlad, you interfered with our election. Heres our report on how you did it." He knows how he did it, because he did it.

Are you being deliberitly(sp) obtuse? He would sell (or give) Vlad information about other countries (ya know like he already did)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The FBI was required to provide a receipt for the inventory of siezed materials. Why isn’t every Democrat in Congress demanding that this be released by TFG?


Please share a reputable source claiming this.


Claiming what? That the FBI has to leave a receipt? That's the law. https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_41


Are you saying they should demand Trump release it or it should be released without his consent? I asked for a source because I thought you meant that the FBI didn't give Trump release a receipt of seized material. Trump's lawyer confirmed they took boxes.


NP, but the sentence above obviously saying that they should demand Trump release it. He has the receipt.


No, it didn't clearly state that. "Every Democrat in Congress should be demanding that Trump release the FBI warrant and receipt of seized materials," is clear.
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