Middle school FCPS teachers - actual work hours?

Anonymous
I’m a high school teacher debating trying to make the switch to middle school. I also have children and am wondering if the hours would be better. Currently I am available after school until approximately 4:00 most days to provide extra help although students often do not stay. I bring home work and papers to grade after that.

Middle school teachers, I’m assuming you also bring home work and grading. How late do you stay with students? How often? I think a change would be nice but am also wondering if I could drop SACC for my own children since middle school dismisses so early.
Anonymous
What will you do in teacher work days when the students have them off? That is one reason to keep SACC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What will you do in teacher work days when the students have them off? That is one reason to keep SACC.


We would keep morning SACC and therefore would have care on teacher work days.
Anonymous
FCPS MS teacher here.

Our school day runs 7:30 - 2:15. I arrive around 7:00, which seems to be the average time most people arrive based on how full the parking lot is then. Our after school program runs until 4:30 and is split into two sessions, each an hour long. Teachers must make themselves available for after school support during at least one session each week; many have one standing session where anyone can show up and then will work with other students at different times on an appointment-only basis.
Anonymous
My FCPS middle school contract hours are 7:10-2:40. I have one meeting per week that goes until 3:30 three times per month (staff mtg, committee mtg, department meeting.) I am required to offer extra help one time per week until 3:25.

I am probably going to have to switch to a high school once my oldest starts school because SACC doesnt open until 7 and I can’t do that drop off and make it to school in time to open my classroom door by 7:12 when students start arriving.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher debating trying to make the switch to middle school. I also have children and am wondering if the hours would be better. Currently I am available after school until approximately 4:00 most days to provide extra help although students often do not stay. I bring home work and papers to grade after that.

Middle school teachers, I’m assuming you also bring home work and grading. How late do you stay with students? How often? I think a change would be nice but am also wondering if I could drop SACC for my own children since middle school dismisses so early.


What will you do on days you have meetings or are required to stay late to help students or are required to sponsor a club?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher debating trying to make the switch to middle school. I also have children and am wondering if the hours would be better. Currently I am available after school until approximately 4:00 most days to provide extra help although students often do not stay. I bring home work and papers to grade after that.

Middle school teachers, I’m assuming you also bring home work and grading. How late do you stay with students? How often? I think a change would be nice but am also wondering if I could drop SACC for my own children since middle school dismisses so early.


What will you do on days you have meetings or are required to stay late to help students or are required to sponsor a club?


OP here. That is why I am crowdsourcing DCUM. SACC is not my only consideration and dropping afternoons to save money was only an idea. My children attend a later elementary school so they would be in school much longer than the middle school. Even still, we would possibly keep SACC for the flexibility so we would not have to rely on sitters. Or I may not attempt to change jobs. I am looking into options, that is all. I like my current position but after many years teaching in a high school a change may be nice. We are looking into all options, especially if the move would be easier or harder on my family.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My FCPS middle school contract hours are 7:10-2:40. I have one meeting per week that goes until 3:30 three times per month (staff mtg, committee mtg, department meeting.) I am required to offer extra help one time per week until 3:25.

I am probably going to have to switch to a high school once my oldest starts school because SACC doesnt open until 7 and I can’t do that drop off and make it to school in time to open my classroom door by 7:12 when students start arriving.


Thank you. This is also something to consider. Getting out earlier would be nice, but dropping my children off by 7 and making it to a school by 7:10 would be very difficult.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher debating trying to make the switch to middle school. I also have children and am wondering if the hours would be better. Currently I am available after school until approximately 4:00 most days to provide extra help although students often do not stay. I bring home work and papers to grade after that.

Middle school teachers, I’m assuming you also bring home work and grading. How late do you stay with students? How often? I think a change would be nice but am also wondering if I could drop SACC for my own children since middle school dismisses so early.


What will you do on days you have meetings or are required to stay late to help students or are required to sponsor a club?



Required to sponsor a club? How can they require something beyond contracted hours?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher debating trying to make the switch to middle school. I also have children and am wondering if the hours would be better. Currently I am available after school until approximately 4:00 most days to provide extra help although students often do not stay. I bring home work and papers to grade after that.

Middle school teachers, I’m assuming you also bring home work and grading. How late do you stay with students? How often? I think a change would be nice but am also wondering if I could drop SACC for my own children since middle school dismisses so early.


What will you do on days you have meetings or are required to stay late to help students or are required to sponsor a club?



Required to sponsor a club? How can they require something beyond contracted hours?


Same question here. Also, I believe there is a limit to the number of before/after school staff meetings (mentioned in a post) that can be held per month. I'll search policy regs later.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher debating trying to make the switch to middle school. I also have children and am wondering if the hours would be better. Currently I am available after school until approximately 4:00 most days to provide extra help although students often do not stay. I bring home work and papers to grade after that.

Middle school teachers, I’m assuming you also bring home work and grading. How late do you stay with students? How often? I think a change would be nice but am also wondering if I could drop SACC for my own children since middle school dismisses so early.


What will you do on days you have meetings or are required to stay late to help students or are required to sponsor a club?



Required to sponsor a club? How can they require something beyond contracted hours?


Same question here. Also, I believe there is a limit to the number of before/after school staff meetings (mentioned in a post) that can be held per month. I'll search policy regs later.


Because teachers are required to do more than what they are contracted for. This is why it's crazy when posters are like blah blah stupid, lazy, overpaid teachers. It's not true.
Anonymous
Our former principal tried to guilt us into doing after school clubs at our Title One school. I told her that at my son's school, 90% of the clubs were run by parents. My principal said that the poor children never have any chance to do extracurricular activities. I am sick of people expecting teachers to be the saviors all of the time.
Anonymous
A lot of times the new (either brand new or new to the school) teachers are asked by admin to sponsor clubs. The new teachers want to make a good impression so they do it. You can decline but when it's your eval time you will be asked to list what you do to contribute to the good of the school. If you just work your contract hours then it won't look great unless you've been there for a long time and have already put your time in.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Our former principal tried to guilt us into doing after school clubs at our Title One school. I told her that at my son's school, 90% of the clubs were run by parents. My principal said that the poor children never have any chance to do extracurricular activities. I am sick of people expecting teachers to be the saviors all of the time.


I ran a club (completely uncompensated) for years due to this guilt. Then I realized that I was doing that while my own child sat in aftercare until 6:30 on those days because I still had to get my work done and be prepared for the following day after the club was over. Not to mention having to call parents when they didn't show up on time to pick up their kid and then wait with the kids whose parents were late. My co-workers still run the club because they're afraid of fallout from admin. There was no fallout from admin for me, but I do contribute to the school above and beyond my contract hours in ways that work better for me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Our former principal tried to guilt us into doing after school clubs at our Title One school. I told her that at my son's school, 90% of the clubs were run by parents. My principal said that the poor children never have any chance to do extracurricular activities. I am sick of people expecting teachers to be the saviors all of the time.


most FCPS elementaries contract out clubs to vendors and the students pay the vendors directly. The PTA might run a lego club or something similar.
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