Epstein Files

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Anonymous wrote:Medias Touch reporting that Trump’s name was just redacted from part that talked about a girl (woman?) saying that Trump liked her pert nipples and goes on to talk about them.

This is beyond sick.

I have this weird belief that Trump is actually kind of asexual. He’s not a Bill Clinton who actually likes sex. Trump gets off on power and control, so he likes women as possessions. So while I fully expect that Trump would be in these files making crude comments (because he likes the power that gives him) I actually doubt it goes beyond that. The new news will be how much he knew about what Epstein was doing.

Uh, are you forgetting he paid for sex with stormy daniels? He is not asexual.

Ok I don’t mean asexual. But I think that he gets off on the power and image. He has no need to creepily get off by coercing teens provided to him by a wealthier friend. There’s no power play there. If anything he wouldn’t want to act like he can’t get the girls on his own. All I am saying is that to the extent there’s something compromising in the files, it is that he was closer to Epstein and knew about his conduct than previously known. Clinton OTOH was totally doing it.

I just responded to your other post. You're a POS. And you're dead wrong in your blindness. Stop excusing our felon rapist.

I’m not sure how pointing out the psychological dynamics of rape vs sex for enjoyment may be different. You sound unhinged. It’s possible to actually have a discussion about these things.

You're unhinged and (again!) a POS for not condemning the felon in chief. Nobody wants your excuses about men and whether they enjoyed it or not. Whether they craved power or not. I'm not the only one calling you out for it. PP said you were excusing rapists. Sick.

Please point to where I excused Trump? You’re hallucinating.

LOL. If you excused him you would just say it. But, you're doubling down on your decrepitude.

I’m not quite getting why me saying Trump is a rapist who gets off on the power differential vs being a creep motivated sexually is excusing Trump.

Let me refresh your memory because you didn't say the felon was a rapist.

You said: "So while I fully expect that Trump would be in these files making crude comments (because he likes the power that gives him) I actually doubt it goes beyond that. The new news will be how much he knew about what Epstein was doing."

That's an excuse. Not an accusation. Are you a third grader? I'm done with you.

That’s saying that Trump is a rapist AND I don’t think there will be evidence of him with the Epstein victims, because I don’t think that was Trump’s MO. Not so sure why that is hard to understand.

But…why?

Every action and reaction by Trump and the DOJ screams that Trump was heavily involved with Epstein and that Trump is guilty as hell.

If there was even a shred of evidence exonerating him, why would they be spending thousands of hours redacting his name? There is so much evidence that needs to be scrubbed of trumps name and image that it’s leaking out even after an army of FBI agents went through it and it was more recently reviewed. Incriminating files are still having to be removed from public view after all the scrutiny. It’s damning.

I think the incrimination is that he knew all about what Epstein was doing and was close to him. Not that he shared women with Epstein.

When all signs point to him being involved, intimately, why do you believe this?

Either way he should be impeached and sent to jail, but your refusal to see reality seems weird.

Stop engaging with this deranged sycophant who refuses to believe the evidence, the clear cover up (after his campaign promise), his own words.

[Anonymous]

You know who is not in the Epstein files? Black people, immigrants and trans people. That is, everyone that Fox News an the Trump admin like to hate on.

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Anonymous wrote:Todd Blanche on Meet the Press today was pitiful. For once the always obsequious Kristen Welker asked Todd Blanche some tough questions and Blanche was incapable of lying with conviction.

TBH, I actually thought he was telling the truth. Which is why it didn't look great for the Admin. If he were a good liar, he could have painted a better picture.

She asked a great question about whether a photo was redacted because the DOJ believed the person in the picture with Trump was a victim. It was a perfectly reasonable follow up to the prior answers he'd given, and he didn't dodge or get angry. He fumbled and gave an answer that was probably truthful though wholly unsatisfying because it does not exculpate the President.

I kind of doubt there is a smoking gun of pedophilia for Trump in the files. If there were, I'm on the fence as to whether that would end his career. People are too invested in not being wrong about him. I'm glad the files are coming to light, especially because maybe it's a path toward holding some powerful men accountable. But I just don't believe they will be Trump's downfall. There is no doubt he is crude and sexist and he ogles young girls. And there is no doubt he does things like cheat on his wife. If anything character-related could sink him, it already would have. He's also a convicted felon, and no one cares.

I don't doubt he is what m y dad called a "tomcat," but I don't believe he is a pedophile or rapist. E Jean Carroll case was bogus. Anyone who believes her just wants to believe her and knows little about her.

Have you ever served on a jury? I have and jurors take their responsibility seriously. We hear all of the evidence, not just the highlights reported on the evening news. The verdict against trump was unanimous by a jury who heard both the plaintiff and defendant evidence and not a single juror believed Defendant trump

OJ

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Anonymous wrote:Medias Touch reporting that Trump’s name was just redacted from part that talked about a girl (woman?) saying that Trump liked her pert nipples and goes on to talk about them.

This is beyond sick.

I have this weird belief that Trump is actually kind of asexual. He’s not a Bill Clinton who actually likes sex. Trump gets off on power and control, so he likes women as possessions. So while I fully expect that Trump would be in these files making crude comments (because he likes the power that gives him) I actually doubt it goes beyond that. The new news will be how much he knew about what Epstein was doing.

Uh, are you forgetting he paid for sex with stormy daniels? He is not asexual.

Ok I don’t mean asexual. But I think that he gets off on the power and image. He has no need to creepily get off by coercing teens provided to him by a wealthier friend. There’s no power play there. If anything he wouldn’t want to act like he can’t get the girls on his own. All I am saying is that to the extent there’s something compromising in the files, it is that he was closer to Epstein and knew about his conduct than previously known. Clinton OTOH was totally doing it.

I just responded to your other post. You're a POS. And you're dead wrong in your blindness. Stop excusing our felon rapist.

I’m not sure how pointing out the psychological dynamics of rape vs sex for enjoyment may be different. You sound unhinged. It’s possible to actually have a discussion about these things.

You're unhinged and (again!) a POS for not condemning the felon in chief. Nobody wants your excuses about men and whether they enjoyed it or not. Whether they craved power or not. I'm not the only one calling you out for it. PP said you were excusing rapists. Sick.

Please point to where I excused Trump? You’re hallucinating.

LOL. If you excused him you would just say it. But, you're doubling down on your decrepitude.

I’m not quite getting why me saying Trump is a rapist who gets off on the power differential vs being a creep motivated sexually is excusing Trump.

Let me refresh your memory because you didn't say the felon was a rapist.

You said: "So while I fully expect that Trump would be in these files making crude comments (because he likes the power that gives him) I actually doubt it goes beyond that. The new news will be how much he knew about what Epstein was doing."

That's an excuse. Not an accusation. Are you a third grader? I'm done with you.

That’s saying that Trump is a rapist AND I don’t think there will be evidence of him with the Epstein victims, because I don’t think that was Trump’s MO. Not so sure why that is hard to understand.

But…why?

Every action and reaction by Trump and the DOJ screams that Trump was heavily involved with Epstein and that Trump is guilty as hell.

If there was even a shred of evidence exonerating him, why would they be spending thousands of hours redacting his name? There is so much evidence that needs to be scrubbed of trumps name and image that it’s leaking out even after an army of FBI agents went through it and it was more recently reviewed. Incriminating files are still having to be removed from public view after all the scrutiny. It’s damning.

I think the incrimination is that he knew all about what Epstein was doing and was close to him. Not that he shared women with Epstein.

When all signs point to him being involved, intimately, why do you believe this?

Either way he should be impeached and sent to jail, but your refusal to see reality seems weird.

Stop engaging with this deranged sycophant who refuses to believe the evidence, the clear cover up (after his campaign promise), his own words.

I’m just trying to figure out where they are on this Trump crime excuse continuum:

1. “I didn’t do it.”
2. “Okay, I did it, but it wasn’t me.” (blame shifting)
3. “I did it, but it wasn’t that bad.” (minimization)
4. “It was bad, but everyone does it.” (normalization)
5. “They deserved it.” (moral justification)
6. “I had no choice.” (victim-of-circumstances)
7. “Fine, I did it… but look what I learned.” (retroactive redemption)

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous]You know who is not in the Epstein files? Black people, immigrants and trans people. That is, everyone that Fox News an the Trump admin like to hate on.[/quote]

Yup

Just like how they blame measles outbreaks on migrants despite the border being sealed, just like how they claim blowing up boats is stopping fentanyl even though it hasn't and so on. The rhetoric doesn't match reality.

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[quote]You know who is not in the Epstein files? Black people, immigrants and trans people. That is, everyone that Fox News an the Trump admin like to hate on.[/quote]

Epstein was using visas for sex trafficking even after being registered as a sex offender.

Where was the USCIS?

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[quote=Anonymous][quote]You know who is not in the Epstein files? Black people, immigrants and trans people. That is, everyone that Fox News an the Trump admin like to hate on.[/quote]

Epstein was using visas for sex trafficking even after being registered as a sex offender.

Where was the USCIS?

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Michael Jackson and Diana Ross are in photos from the Epstein files.

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Anonymous wrote:Todd Blanche on Meet the Press today was pitiful. For once the always obsequious Kristen Welker asked Todd Blanche some tough questions and Blanche was incapable of lying with conviction.

TBH, I actually thought he was telling the truth. Which is why it didn't look great for the Admin. If he were a good liar, he could have painted a better picture.

She asked a great question about whether a photo was redacted because the DOJ believed the person in the picture with Trump was a victim. It was a perfectly reasonable follow up to the prior answers he'd given, and he didn't dodge or get angry. He fumbled and gave an answer that was probably truthful though wholly unsatisfying because it does not exculpate the President.

I kind of doubt there is a smoking gun of pedophilia for Trump in the files. If there were, I'm on the fence as to whether that would end his career. People are too invested in not being wrong about him. I'm glad the files are coming to light, especially because maybe it's a path toward holding some powerful men accountable. But I just don't believe they will be Trump's downfall. There is no doubt he is crude and sexist and he ogles young girls. And there is no doubt he does things like cheat on his wife. If anything character-related could sink him, it already would have. He's also a convicted felon, and no one cares.

I don't doubt he is what m y dad called a "tomcat," but I don't believe he is a pedophile or rapist. E Jean Carroll case was bogus. Anyone who believes her just wants to believe her and knows little about her.

Have you ever served on a jury? I have and jurors take their responsibility seriously. We hear all of the evidence, not just the highlights reported on the evening news. The verdict against trump was unanimous by a jury who heard both the plaintiff and defendant evidence and not a single juror believed Defendant trump

OJ

Exactly, even OJ was found not guilty, so you can imagine how obvious it was that Trump was guilty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Todd Blanche on Meet the Press today was pitiful. For once the always obsequious Kristen Welker asked Todd Blanche some tough questions and Blanche was incapable of lying with conviction.

TBH, I actually thought he was telling the truth. Which is why it didn't look great for the Admin. If he were a good liar, he could have painted a better picture.

+1

She asked a great question about whether a photo was redacted because the DOJ believed the person in the picture with Trump was a victim. It was a perfectly reasonable follow up to the prior answers he'd given, and he didn't dodge or get angry. He fumbled and gave an answer that was probably truthful though wholly unsatisfying because it does not exculpate the President.

I kind of doubt there is a smoking gun of pedophilia for Trump in the files. If there were, I'm on the fence as to whether that would end his career. People are too invested in not being wrong about him. I'm glad the files are coming to light, especially because maybe it's a path toward holding some powerful men accountable. But I just don't believe they will be Trump's downfall. There is no doubt he is crude and sexist and he ogles young girls. And there is no doubt he does things like cheat on his wife. If anything character-related could sink him, it already would have. He's also a convicted felon, and no one cares.

I don't doubt he is what m y dad called a "tomcat," but I don't believe he is a pedophile or rapist. E Jean Carroll case was bogus. Anyone who believes her just wants to believe her and knows little about her.

Have you ever served on a jury? I have and jurors take their responsibility seriously. We hear all of the evidence, not just the highlights reported on the evening news. The verdict against trump was unanimous by a jury who heard both the plaintiff and defendant evidence and not a single juror believed Defendant trump

OJ

Exactly, even OJ was found not guilty, so you can imagine how obvious it was that Trump was guilty.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]You know who is not in the Epstein files? Black people, immigrants and trans people. That is, everyone that Fox News an the Trump admin like to hate on.[/quote]

Epstein was using visas for sex trafficking even after being registered as a sex offender.

Where was the USCIS?

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Michael Jackson and Diana Ross are in photos from the Epstein files.
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The Diana Ross photo is a public one, not Epstein

Is Michael Jackson Black?

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Anonymous wrote:You know who is not in the Epstein files? Black people, immigrants and trans people. That is, everyone that Fox News a the Trump admin like to hate on.

I definitely saw Diddy in some photos so I really don’t know what you’re talking about. Rich people were the clients here.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]You know who is not in the Epstein files? Black people, immigrants and trans people. That is, everyone that Fox News an the Trump admin like to hate on.[/quote]

Epstein was using visas for sex trafficking even after being registered as a sex offender.

Where was the USCIS?

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Michael Jackson and Diana Ross are in photos from the Epstein files.
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The one photo of them was doctored by DOJ, per Meidas Touch. IDK if there were more than that one.

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I believe the women. DOJ has lost all credibility by, e.g., lying to courts over the past few months.

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Anonymous wrote:You know who is not in the Epstein files? Black people, immigrants and trans people. That is, everyone that Fox News a the Trump admin like to hate on.

I definitely saw Diddy in some photos so I really don’t know what you’re talking about. Rich people were the clients here.

Truman's longtime, good friend Diddy?

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[quote=Anonymous][quote]You know who is not in the Epstein files? Black people, immigrants and trans people. That is, everyone that Fox News an the Trump admin like to hate on.[/quote]

Epstein was using visas for sex trafficking even after being registered as a sex offender.

[b]Where was the USCIS?[/b]

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Agree.

I’ve been asking about the passports for awhile.

The State Department does passports. Minors have to have BOTH parents sign in person. So who was pretending to be parents with fake documents or who is corrupt in the state department that approved them without both parents present.