Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1045723835532800001
What’s happening in the ante room?

Flake’s arm being twisted to delay vote would be my guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Did you watch his 30+ hours of testimony 2 weeks ago?
Yesterday he was there defending his reputation, his integrity and his livelihood. He was facing people who had called him “evil” and a “danger to all.” He was facing people who had proudly and publicly said, “I believe her” before hearing any testimony. He had every right to be angry. He had every right to show his fury at these ridiculous charges.
And, no, he could not adequately defend himself without showing his outrage. Had he done that, you folks would still say, “Look... he really is guilty. An innocent man would have more anger.”
Face it - NOTHING he did would please you.

This. So much this.

I honestly cannot believe some people think he should have somehow handled himself better. The man is being acused of sexual assault. I expect him to be angry and show it.

He is not presiding over a court case. He is defending his reputation.

+1,000
He had been very calm and soft spoken during his interview with Martha Macallum (sp?), but that was several days before the other outrageous claims came out. By yesterday, I imagine it was all he could do to speak coherently without breaking down. I had to listen on the radio since I was driving, but was in tears listening to the anger and pain in his voice, trying to hold it together. I can’t even imagine what it must be like to be accused of things you didn’t do, and having no way to clear your name.

The man was accused of horrible things that he flatly denies. I don’t know who’s telling the truth here, but those of you who believe Ford without reservation, may I ask why? Every witness she has named has refuted her claim. Yes, even Mark Judge who did so in writing, under penalty of perjury. No one has corroborated her account. Why is it that you have such certainty that he did it? I don’t get this utter glee some of you have about ruining this man’s life - with zero evidence.

For me personally? Because I've grown up in a political climate where the Republicans I knew touted family values, yet the cheated, lied, hit their spouses, yet flat out vehemently opposed the "godless" Dems. I grew up around men who molested young girls, lied about it, said women who dressed a certain way were sluts, yet at home with their wives literally raped their wives and go on and on about Bill Clinton at every possible occasion. Because I was punched and told it never happened. Because I was molested and told that my 7 year old-self probably did something to deserve/bring it on. Because I have seen this circle repeatedly tell me it's not OK to destroy families, and had no problem destroying Hillary and Chelsea. Had no problem trying to destroy Obama's daughters. Because this party has no credibility, and therefore I assume the lying hypocrisy is just part of their MO.

If Kavanaugh is truly the upstanding choir boy he is, he should have come out and said: This nomination isn't worth more to me than my family, I withdraw. I request the attacks and character assassinations on a woman we presume is a victim of assault stop. While I know in my heart that I am innocent of this charge, I will not character assassinate a woman and ruin her entire life, as my life and my family aren't worth more than hers, and victims of sexual assault have suffered long enough in this country. Maybe this is a moment for us all to look inward and understand that we have failed victims of sexual assault, and that more needs to be done. Then, Kavanaugh, you'd have had my backing and my sympathy. Till then, you're just one more man who rapes behind closed doors, and then rants on about Dems wanting abortions.

Sure. And, then we would have heard, “See - he’s guilty.” That is the biggest bunch of crap I’ve read today.
He HAD to defend himself. Withdrawing would have been an admission of guilt in the minds of Democrats - AND YOU KNOW IT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Listening to these Senators wax on about their opposition to Kavanaugh, I might believe some of them in their outrage, until we consider how they voted on the Gorsuch nomination.....
With the exception of Booker and Harris, who were not on the committee, every single one of those currently on this committee also voted against Gorsuch.
Spare me your outrage.

All Voting Yea:
CHARLES E. GRASSLEY, Iowa, Chairman
ORRIN G. HATCH, Utah
LINDSEY O. GRAHAM, South Carolina
JOHN CORNYN, Texas
MICHAEL S. LEE, Utah
TED CRUZ, Texas
BEN SASSE, Nebraska
JEFF FLAKE, Arizona
MIKE CRAPO, Idaho
THOM TILLIS, North Carolina
JOHN KENNEDY, Louisiana

All voting nea:
DIANNE FEINSTEIN, California, Ranking Member
PATRICK J. LEAHY, Vermont
RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois
SHELDON WHITEHOUSE, Rhode Island
AMY KLOBUCHAR, Minnesota
AL FRANKEN, Minnesota
CHRISTOPHER A. COONS, Delaware
RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, Connecticut
MAZIE K. HIRONO, Hawaii

Thank you for posting this. What a bunch of hypocrites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why Brett Kavanaugh Wasn’t Believable
And why Christine Blasey Ford was.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/27/opinion/why-brett-kavanaugh-wasnt-believable.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
"On Thursday, he gave misleading answers to questions about seemingly small matters — sharpening doubts about his honesty about far more significant ones. He gave coy answers when pressed about what was clearly a sexual innuendo in his high-school yearbook. He insisted over and over that others Dr. Blasey named as attending the gathering had “said it didn’t happen,” when in fact at least two of them have said only that they don’t recall it — and one of them told a reporter that she believes Dr. Blasey."

By the Editorial Board

Impressive, predictable opinion piece

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Did you watch his 30+ hours of testimony 2 weeks ago?
Yesterday he was there defending his reputation, his integrity and his livelihood. He was facing people who had called him “evil” and a “danger to all.” He was facing people who had proudly and publicly said, “I believe her” before hearing any testimony. He had every right to be angry. He had every right to show his fury at these ridiculous charges.
And, no, he could not adequately defend himself without showing his outrage. Had he done that, you folks would still say, “Look... he really is guilty. An innocent man would have more anger.”
Face it - NOTHING he did would please you.

This. So much this.

I honestly cannot believe some people think he should have somehow handled himself better. The man is being acused of sexual assault. I expect him to be angry and show it.

He is not presiding over a court case. He is defending his reputation.

Really? How about answering yes or no to yes or no questions?

How about NOT meanly asking a US Senator if SHE had a drinking problem? For which he apologized, so even HE recognizes that he did not handle himself well in at least that one exchange.

Sorry, but I know I would be mighty surly at the heavy insinuations that I had a “drinking problem” and that I tried to rape a girl. Especially if, you know, I didn’t and I hadn’t. There is no way he can win here. The Democratic senators - people like yourself - have already decided he’s guilty. It’s really pretty disgusting.

There's a multitude of evidence that he does have a drinking problem - or did - despite his gaslighting. Others, beyond those who've come out with allegations of sexual assault have also noted that Kavanaugh drank to excess. His defensiveness is unacceptable. He is being vetted for a lifetime appointment and it is HIS responsibility to establish his worthiness and to do so with grace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Did you watch his 30+ hours of testimony 2 weeks ago?
Yesterday he was there defending his reputation, his integrity and his livelihood. He was facing people who had called him “evil” and a “danger to all.” He was facing people who had proudly and publicly said, “I believe her” before hearing any testimony. He had every right to be angry. He had every right to show his fury at these ridiculous charges.
And, no, he could not adequately defend himself without showing his outrage. Had he done that, you folks would still say, “Look... he really is guilty. An innocent man would have more anger.”
Face it - NOTHING he did would please you.

This. So much this.

I honestly cannot believe some people think he should have somehow handled himself better. The man is being acused of sexual assault. I expect him to be angry and show it.

He is not presiding over a court case. He is defending his reputation.

+1,000
He had been very calm and soft spoken during his interview with Martha Macallum (sp?), but that was several days before the other outrageous claims came out. By yesterday, I imagine it was all he could do to speak coherently without breaking down. I had to listen on the radio since I was driving, but was in tears listening to the anger and pain in his voice, trying to hold it together. I can’t even imagine what it must be like to be accused of things you didn’t do, and having no way to clear your name.

The man was accused of horrible things that he flatly denies. I don’t know who’s telling the truth here, but those of you who believe Ford without reservation, may I ask why? Every witness she has named has refuted her claim. Yes, even Mark Judge who did so in writing, under penalty of perjury. No one has corroborated her account. Why is it that you have such certainty that he did it? I don’t get this utter glee some of you have about ruining this man’s life - with zero evidence.

For me personally? Because I've grown up in a political climate where the Republicans I knew touted family values, yet the cheated, lied, hit their spouses, yet flat out vehemently opposed the "godless" Dems. I grew up around men who molested young girls, lied about it, said women who dressed a certain way were sluts, yet at home with their wives literally raped their wives and go on and on about Bill Clinton at every possible occasion. Because I was punched and told it never happened. Because I was molested and told that my 7 year old-self probably did something to deserve/bring it on. Because I have seen this circle repeatedly tell me it's not OK to destroy families, and had no problem destroying Hillary and Chelsea. Had no problem trying to destroy Obama's daughters. Because this party has no credibility, and therefore I assume the lying hypocrisy is just part of their MO.

If Kavanaugh is truly the upstanding choir boy he is, he should have come out and said: This nomination isn't worth more to me than my family, I withdraw. I request the attacks and character assassinations on a woman we presume is a victim of assault stop. While I know in my heart that I am innocent of this charge, I will not character assassinate a woman and ruin her entire life, as my life and my family aren't worth more than hers, and victims of sexual assault have suffered long enough in this country. Maybe this is a moment for us all to look inward and understand that we have failed victims of sexual assault, and that more needs to be done. Then, Kavanaugh, you'd have had my backing and my sympathy. Till then, you're just one more man who rapes behind closed doors, and then rants on about Dems wanting abortions.

And yet, it’s his character which has been attacked and assassinated. But that’s ok, right? God, you people are such sick hypocrites.

He could've stopped this circus. It was more important to him to play the outraged victim. But sure, we people are the hypocrites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Blumenthal is making me cry as he’s saying Ford’s sons should be proud of her.

Is that Blumenthal the honored veteran?

[Anonymous]

yep

[Anonymous]

I think the Dems(or the outside groups...just do not give the Dems senators that much credit) are make the wrong argument.
It should not be Ford is a woman and therefore must be believed. It should be kavanaugh lied to the Congress, withheld information and has contempt for our system of government. He has a pattern of lying to Congress under oath and this is why we should believe Ford. Lying under oath or not being truth with the fact should disqualify you from being a judge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:January 2019, when Dems control the House, they should open a full investigation and public hearings on Kavanaugh, to decide whether he needs to be impeached. Subpoena Mark Judge, PJ, Squi, and all of Kav’s other boof-buddies. Let Julie Swetnick be heard. Get all the records that were withheld. Let’s get it ALL out in the open.

This is not over, Brett. You don’t get to lie your way out of this one. Not this time.

The next time we hear about Jule Swetnick will be a three sentence article buried on the bottom on page 8 of the Washington Post that she was fired for lying under oath.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:January 2019, when Dems control the House, they should open a full investigation and public hearings on Kavanaugh, to decide whether he needs to be impeached. Subpoena Mark Judge, PJ, Squi, and all of Kav’s other boof-buddies. Let Julie Swetnick be heard. Get all the records that were withheld. Let’s get it ALL out in the open.

This is not over, Brett. You don’t get to lie your way out of this one. Not this time.

I’m sure he is reading this board.
And, good luck with your future investigations. Yes, let’s hear from Julie Swetnick. I can think of nothing that would represent more of a circus than having Avenatti in a SJC hearing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Did you watch his 30+ hours of testimony 2 weeks ago?
Yesterday he was there defending his reputation, his integrity and his livelihood. He was facing people who had called him “evil” and a “danger to all.” He was facing people who had proudly and publicly said, “I believe her” before hearing any testimony. He had every right to be angry. He had every right to show his fury at these ridiculous charges.
And, no, he could not adequately defend himself without showing his outrage. Had he done that, you folks would still say, “Look... he really is guilty. An innocent man would have more anger.”
Face it - NOTHING he did would please you.

This. So much this.

I honestly cannot believe some people think he should have somehow handled himself better. The man is being acused of sexual assault. I expect him to be angry and show it.

He is not presiding over a court case. He is defending his reputation.

+1,000
He had been very calm and soft spoken during his interview with Martha Macallum (sp?), but that was several days before the other outrageous claims came out. By yesterday, I imagine it was all he could do to speak coherently without breaking down. I had to listen on the radio since I was driving, but was in tears listening to the anger and pain in his voice, trying to hold it together. I can’t even imagine what it must be like to be accused of things you didn’t do, and having no way to clear your name.

The man was accused of horrible things that he flatly denies. I don’t know who’s telling the truth here, but those of you who believe Ford without reservation, may I ask why? Every witness she has named has refuted her claim. Yes, even Mark Judge who did so in writing, under penalty of perjury. No one has corroborated her account. Why is it that you have such certainty that he did it? I don’t get this utter glee some of you have about ruining this man’s life - with zero evidence.

For me personally? Because I've grown up in a political climate where the Republicans I knew touted family values, yet the cheated, lied, hit their spouses, yet flat out vehemently opposed the "godless" Dems. I grew up around men who molested young girls, lied about it, said women who dressed a certain way were sluts, yet at home with their wives literally raped their wives and go on and on about Bill Clinton at every possible occasion. Because I was punched and told it never happened. Because I was molested and told that my 7 year old-self probably did something to deserve/bring it on. Because I have seen this circle repeatedly tell me it's not OK to destroy families, and had no problem destroying Hillary and Chelsea. Had no problem trying to destroy Obama's daughters. Because this party has no credibility, and therefore I assume the lying hypocrisy is just part of their MO.

If Kavanaugh is truly the upstanding choir boy he is, he should have come out and said: This nomination isn't worth more to me than my family, I withdraw. I request the attacks and character assassinations on a woman we presume is a victim of assault stop. While I know in my heart that I am innocent of this charge, I will not character assassinate a woman and ruin her entire life, as my life and my family aren't worth more than hers, and victims of sexual assault have suffered long enough in this country. Maybe this is a moment for us all to look inward and understand that we have failed victims of sexual assault, and that more needs to be done. Then, Kavanaugh, you'd have had my backing and my sympathy. Till then, you're just one more man who rapes behind closed doors, and then rants on about Dems wanting abortions.

Sure. And, then we would have heard, “See - he’s guilty.” That is the biggest bunch of crap I’ve read today.
He HAD to defend himself. Withdrawing would have been an admission of guilt in the minds of Democrats - AND YOU KNOW IT.

I've never met a man wrongfully accused of sexual assault. Guess how many women I know who've been victims of it. BUT OMG HE HAS TO DEFEND HIMSELF. You don't have to worry about going to parties, going to work, staying late at work, being alive, for God's sake. Women do. So if by virtue of our experience, we know an abuser when we see one, we're not going to apologize for it. But go ahead, label us and try to silence us. It's what you do best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: For me personally? Because I've grown up in a political climate where the Republicans I knew touted family values, yet the cheated, lied, hit their spouses, yet flat out vehemently opposed the "godless" Dems. I grew up around men who molested young girls, lied about it, said women who dressed a certain way were sluts, yet at home with their wives literally raped their wives and go on and on about Bill Clinton at every possible occasion. Because I was punched and told it never happened. Because I was molested and told that my 7 year old-self probably did something to deserve/bring it on. Because I have seen this circle repeatedly tell me it's not OK to destroy families, and had no problem destroying Hillary and Chelsea. Had no problem trying to destroy Obama's daughters. Because this party has no credibility, and therefore I assume the lying hypocrisy is just part of their MO.

If Kavanaugh is truly the upstanding choir boy he is, he should have come out and said: This nomination isn't worth more to me than my family, I withdraw. I request the attacks and character assassinations on a woman we presume is a victim of assault stop. While I know in my heart that I am innocent of this charge, I will not character assassinate a woman and ruin her entire life, as my life and my family aren't worth more than hers, and victims of sexual assault have suffered long enough in this country. Maybe this is a moment for us all to look inward and understand that we have failed victims of sexual assault, and that more needs to be done. Then, Kavanaugh, you'd have had my backing and my sympathy. Till then, you're just one more man who rapes behind closed doors, and then rants on about Dems wanting abortions.

I’m so sorry that that happened to you and that you grew up in that environment. The last few weeks must have been horrible for you.

And I agree - he just hasn’t comported himself with grace. He’s a liar. He’s a rage monster.

[Anonymous]

What’s going on in the ante room?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What’s going on in the ante room?

Reports are they are playing a drinking game. And, boofing.