Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.deuxmoi.world/latest/publicist-jennifer-abel-allegedly-breaks-silence-on-explosive-text-messages-in-baldoni-lawsuitist

Dummy. She doesn't need to be subpoenaed since these are work communications. They either subpoenaed the previous company or the company agreed to hand them over. Either way her permission is not needed. There is a message of her saying "I am having reckless thoughts about planting pieces over how're awful Blake is this week" so this "i would NEVER" is BS

I’m confused about when they subpoenaed the documents since the complaint was just filed this week?

You can subpoena to preserve evidence before a complaint is filed.

That’s different than forcing production. What was the mechanism to get the PR people’s emails and texts?

No it isn't. If a court signs a subpoena then they have to produce it.

You said preserve evidence that’s not the same as produce evidence.

I was also curious about this so I looked into it. Apparently the first step in a workplace sexual harassment case in CA is lodging a complaint against with the California Civil Rights Commission, which is has investigative (including subpoena) authority. The Commission then tries to get the parties to settle. If they can’t, then it goes on to a lawsuit.

The complaint is the commencement of the lawsuit. My understanding is that the subpoenaed communications are from the California Civil Rights Commission proceeding.

If she just lodged the complaint, then wouldn’t the CCCC just have subpoena power now? How did the texts show up in the Complaint since it is a precursor. (Not following the timing).

PP again. I think the CCCC proceeding is closed because the parties wouldn’t settle. There was some sort of discovery process that occurred in the CCCC proceeding, which is how they were able to subpoena the texts. Since that proceeding went nowhere, Lively’s legal team moved to the next step of the legal process, which is filing this complaint in court. They were able to use the subpoenaed texts from the CCCC proceeding in the court filing.

Not sure how that works procedurally (not a CA lawyer!) but that’s my understanding of the process.

Thank you, this is helpful. The complainant doesn’t include the court in the case caption, which was throwing me. I guess they don’t need that in CA state court.

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Anonymous wrote:People who don't understand the Blake dislike crack me up. This is a woman who got married on a plantation. That's like getting married at Auschwitz. Maybe she was sexually harassed, if it happened I hope it comes out in court and the guy faces consequences. But to me this is a woman who has shown time and again that she's a self involved ahole who is incapable of accountability.

This is incredibly offensive, PP.

People on the West Coast don’t get Civil War/Southern Culture. I grew up out West and none of this history was part of my world until I moved to the East Coast.

It’s not culture. It’s history. She chose to marry on a plantation that beat people and kept people enslaved against their will.

Ignorance is not an excuse.

Obviously controversial to say now but this was a semi normal thing to do 12 years ago. Not excusing it, but as a regular Joe Schmo, I went to weddings at the same location around the same time period and earlier. I don’t think you understand how much online communications have normalized thoughts and perceptions - and to a GOOD degree. Because I agree, getting married at a plantation is not ok. Back in 2010/2012, there was really only Facebook and Twitter and widespread acceptance of that idea hadn’t really materialized. Cultural mores change over time.

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Anonymous wrote:People who don't understand the Blake dislike crack me up. This is a woman who got married on a plantation. That's like getting married at Auschwitz. Maybe she was sexually harassed, if it happened I hope it comes out in court and the guy faces consequences. But to me this is a woman who has shown time and again that she's a self involved ahole who is incapable of accountability.

This is incredibly offensive, PP.

People on the West Coast don’t get Civil War/Southern Culture. I grew up out West and none of this history was part of my world until I moved to the East Coast.

It’s not culture. It’s history. She chose to marry on a plantation that beat people and kept people enslaved against their will.

Ignorance is not an excuse.

Obviously controversial to say now but this was a semi normal thing to do 12 years ago. Not excusing it, but as a regular Joe Schmo, I went to weddings at the same location around the same time period and earlier. I don’t think you understand how much online communications have normalized thoughts and perceptions - and to a GOOD degree. Because I agree, getting married at a plantation is not ok. Back in 2010/2012, there was really only Facebook and Twitter and widespread acceptance of that idea hadn’t really materialized. Cultural mores change over time.

No, this only applies if you are willfully blind. Even the good old days of 2010, plenty of people knew you shouldn’t glorify getting married on a plantation.

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I dislike Blake Lively as a celebrity for a variety of reasons, most detailed in this thread, but if the director did what is alleged in the complaint, I'm on her side here.

I worked in a job where people behaved that way and it was incredibly stressful. Also in my case, the sexually charged workplace behavior (talking about sexual experiences and preferences with coworkers, sharing sexual media with coworkers) went hand in hand with physical harassment/assault. The coworker who was most pushy about wanting to discuss sex at work wound up also being the one who grabbed my hand and pressed it to their crotch in the middle of the work day. Other colleagues engaged in the same talk but to a lesser extent. I think sexualizing the workplace like that gives cover to people who want to push things even further.

So her allegations about him taking an on screen kiss too far or feeling unsafe or uncomfortable in sex scenes with him now make a lot more sense to me than when they were first reported. When you factor in this other behavior, it starts to paint a more complicated picture where it wasn't just about Blake disliking her director/costar, but him and other engaging in a bunch of harassing behaviors and then her having to do love scenes with him and him crossing the line.

Again, I don't even like Blake's public persona -- she reminds me of middle school mean girls and I don't get the appeal. But everyone deserves a safe and harassment-free workplace. Everyone.

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I think if Baldoni’s PR agents had trolls planted on her shampoo promo social media posts, that’s a quite strong claim for her of retaliation, tortious interference & significant damages.

Someone from Baldoni's PR team posted in a private PR group on FB. Here's her side of the story. It's long and covers a couple of different things so I can't TL;DR but she supports Justin, says their was no coordinated effort, the internet took over on it's own
https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/1hk3wi6/jennifer_abel_a_member_of_justin_baldonis_crisis/

She's been a PR agent for how long yet doesn't know to keep her trap shut when facing a lawsuit?

Well reading that the “lawsuit” sounds totally bogus. What were Lively’s original demands? Is this all about a cut of the movie revenue? This all feels fake as hell.

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I think if Baldoni’s PR agents had trolls planted on her shampoo promo social media posts, that’s a quite strong claim for her of retaliation, tortious interference & significant damages.

Someone from Baldoni's PR team posted in a private PR group on FB. Here's her side of the story. It's long and covers a couple of different things so I can't TL;DR but she supports Justin, says their was no coordinated effort, the internet took over on it's own
https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/1hk3wi6/jennifer_abel_a_member_of_justin_baldonis_crisis/

Is she aware we can all read

Not even 4 minutes after the PP’s comment you posted, hardly enough time to click and read the thread and posts. Are you being paid to post here?

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I think if Baldoni’s PR agents had trolls planted on her shampoo promo social media posts, that’s a quite strong claim for her of retaliation, tortious interference & significant damages.

Someone from Baldoni's PR team posted in a private PR group on FB. Here's her side of the story. It's long and covers a couple of different things so I can't TL;DR but she supports Justin, says their was no coordinated effort, the internet took over on it's own
https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/1hk3wi6/jennifer_abel_a_member_of_justin_baldonis_crisis/

Is she aware we can all read

Not even 4 minutes after the PP’s comment you posted, hardly enough time to click and read the thread and posts. Are you being paid to post here?

Not that PP but some of us have already read it not waiting here for someone to post something. Plenty of people are posting here with zero knowledge at all of this complaint did you call them out?

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Anonymous wrote:People who don't understand the Blake dislike crack me up. This is a woman who got married on a plantation. That's like getting married at Auschwitz. Maybe she was sexually harassed, if it happened I hope it comes out in court and the guy faces consequences. But to me this is a woman who has shown time and again that she's a self involved ahole who is incapable of accountability.

This is incredibly offensive, PP.

People on the West Coast don’t get Civil War/Southern Culture. I grew up out West and none of this history was part of my world until I moved to the East Coast.

What a weird comment. They do teach children about the civil war and slavery in school in California, too, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:

I think if Baldoni’s PR agents had trolls planted on her shampoo promo social media posts, that’s a quite strong claim for her of retaliation, tortious interference & significant damages.

Someone from Baldoni's PR team posted in a private PR group on FB. Here's her side of the story. It's long and covers a couple of different things so I can't TL;DR but she supports Justin, says their was no coordinated effort, the internet took over on it's own
https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/1hk3wi6/jennifer_abel_a_member_of_justin_baldonis_crisis/

She's been a PR agent for how long yet doesn't know to keep her trap shut when facing a lawsuit?

Well reading that the “lawsuit” sounds totally bogus. What were Lively’s original demands? Is this all about a cut of the movie revenue? This all feels fake as hell.

Another one who hasn't read the complaint. No, it doesn't.

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WME dropped him in a hot second. This isn’t the first time he’s misbehaved I’m guessing.

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I haven’t been on here since last night. How tiresome: page 48. You PR peeps from both sides are tiring. Toxic individuals all around.

And for the record, I disliked Blake before all of this blew up. She has always been attention-seeking. She definitely finagled a Ben Afflick affair for her career.

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Anonymous wrote:WME dropped him in a hot second. This isn’t the first time he’s misbehaved I’m guessing.

And Blake and Ryan are both represented by WME

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t been on here since last night. How tiresome: page 48. You PR peeps from both sides are tiring. Toxic individuals all around.

And for the record, I disliked Blake before all of this blew up. She has always been attention-seeking. She definitely finagled a Ben Afflick affair for her career.

Most people reflectively dislike her and wonder why she is still famous. What were the ratings of Gossip Girl? I mean, come on. She’s not some talented actress or stunning charismatic model. Her fame is fake.

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I think if Baldoni’s PR agents had trolls planted on her shampoo promo social media posts, that’s a quite strong claim for her of retaliation, tortious interference & significant damages.

Someone from Baldoni's PR team posted in a private PR group on FB. Here's her side of the story. It's long and covers a couple of different things so I can't TL;DR but she supports Justin, says their was no coordinated effort, the internet took over on it's own
https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/1hk3wi6/jennifer_abel_a_member_of_justin_baldonis_crisis/

Is she aware we can all read

Not even 4 minutes after the PP’s comment you posted, hardly enough time to click and read the thread and posts. Are you being paid to post here?

Her response was posted on reddit hours ago. I didn't need to read for the 2nd time

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I think she sucks in general (mostly because of that interview video when she was so mean for no reason) but in this specific scenario she’s right and no one should deal with that at work. Gross.