I have zero interest in that unknowable question. I am interested in women's friends groups and their perceived exclusivity or inclusivity, and how different women approach that idea. I have found this thread fascinating in part because of the surprisingly severe opinions some have expressed. I didn't realize how polarizing the proposal that sometimes women can be exclusive in their friend group was. |
Then why are you here? Some people don't find the premise faulty and are wiling to discuss it. It seems like you are here to stop others from having a conversation they want to have, which is a weird waste of everyone's time, including yours. |
Why are you here? This isn't an echo chamber. I'm not going to talk about excluding behavior if we can't even agree what it is. If you don't like that conversation, you know where the door is. |
Did it ever occur to you to just start a s/o topic if this one has been so dissatisfying? It's not like there's a limit. But trying to control everyone is bizarre. |
+200 |
NP. I have made it through all 48 pages. Phew! But back to OP's last update. OP - Are you trying to tell us that you think that the mom who is driving this week is avoiding you? Is she the one you texted? Have you tried to smooth things over with her for your ill-considered text? |
What is your point? The post was aimed at both "hates" PPs. |
There are a number of posters here, including you, who are making the (bizarre) assumption that the OP and anyone who has said anything supportive of her is saying that everyone must be invited to everything. I doubt anyone believes that (there may be troll PPs saying such things to stir up trouble). It's more about talking about feelings of awkwardness or exclusion that can happen. That's it. Talking about awkward situations does not translate to saying people expect to be invited to everything. I can't understand how your mind would even go to that to the point you need to write angry-sounding posts that insult the OP and other PPs. What is wrong with you? |
DP, I think one of the issues is that OP’s posts are not nearly as reflective as the posters supporting her. Have you noticed that she has posted many times and has never acknowledged that she was hurt? She keeps coming back seeking/thanking those who post stories on cliques. If she had led with her hurt and desire to be included, this thread would not have taken off like it did. |
No. This is a thing. At parent pickup a bunch of parents in front of me talked about how they all went out that Friday night. They clearly knew I had not been invited but thought it was good conversation to have with me and two other parents who were not there. It also got into two parents talking about how they think they have alcohol issues… I just listened and then went to grab my child and head home. These same parents have no problem asking me for help- picking up their child, dropping something off, voting for something, etc.
The one who was the most obnoxious was a dad actually who brags about their beach house and sailing camp for his (physically and verbally abusive kid he likes to push kids and ride over their arms with his bike…and is mean to other kids). Find your people OP. It is okay to feel hurt, that is human. I don’t drink in the middle of the day so this event wouldn’t be my thing. You don’t always have to be invited to everything but if they saw you it would have been nice of them to say, “hey Sam, so great to see you. After your meeting stop by our table and have a glass of wine with us! We are planning to be here until x time.” They don’t have to do that but it would have been the kind thing to do. Parent cliques are real and people on here who don’t see an issue with it might be the ones being cliquey. |
Well, there was this one time when I attended a school event, and I found myself unintentionally caught in the middle of a heated debate between two mom cliques about the best way to fundraise for the school. It was like stepping into a lion's den! I tried to make a joke to lighten the mood, but let's just say it didn't exactly diffuse the tension. Ended up sneaking out of there pretty quickly! |
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This plus the nasty follow up post for people to pay attention to the direction in the OP. You can infer what you want from that, but ignoring it to suit your own version of events is ridiculous.* *Not a legal standard |
People are making assumptions. One of them being that these 15 women purposefully excluded OP. If that had been the case, then likely OP would have stated it. But if not, that's fine. Either way, someone saying that these women purposefully excluding OP when OP never said that mean that they're making stuff up to make their point. Some people question it when that happens. It's really that simple. |
Read the thread to which you're replying, that ought to help you sort things out. |