ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Aug guy complains relentlessly about this, but guess what? Any Aug kid will be able to find a club to play on grade if need be. Will it be the level OR playing time they want? It depends how good their soccer is and being the youngest it'll have to be. If they aren't happy with the answer, they MAY find playing on age the better option for them. Either way, they are privileged to have options where 90-95% are going to the new age group with other summer birthdays misaligned having no options!

At top clubs August birthday options will be.

1. Play on your grade in school A team
2. Play on your grade in school B team
3. Play somewhere else

Which top clubs? In DMV Bethesda, Arlington and other ECNL clubs said play on age, best get to play up. You seem the opposite of on the know when you go against what clubs posted.

Trust me, bro.

No reason to trust anyone here, just check your clubs announcement. ECNL and ECRL teams in DC area mentioned on web that age is everything and don't care about grades but a few will let players play up with friends on lower level teams.

ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.

Bolded for your pleasure. But I'll c+p Because age guy it trying to ignore what is being said

"have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up"

So nobody forced to play on grade, it could be an option for some clubs letting players play up with friends on lower level teams. This has already been covered in club postings. Nothing new.

What does friends have to do with club travel soccer?
Which coach of a high performing team wants lesser players forced upon them because of play-dates

That is what the correct grade in school B team is for.

Most will pick A team on age.

I dont agree but it doesn't matter because clubs wont allow Aug birthdays playing down on A teams.

Clubs will say that your kid didn't make an A team but they're welcome to play on the grade down B team or grade correct B team. They know which one you'll choose.

Any evidence or just an uninformed old man suffering from the Dunning Krueger effect?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate reality for age guy is grouping Aug Sept players by grade makes things easier for clubs because theres no oddballs when recruiting or during the teams 8th grade season (grade older players would leave the team for 3-4 months)

Aug birthdays can still guest on grade down teams for tournament wins.

College coaches said they don't care what your age group is only that you can attend the school.

Clubs don't have the capacity to collect and police grade info.

You are just rambling the same stuff without any new info.

Back to ignoring what people are telling you again I see...

ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.

Well that doesn't explain this view from an ECNL club:

From page 15 of their presentation:

"School Grade is Irrelevant: It is much easier to consider the new age-group
placement as relative to the August 1st cutoff and is not tied to their school grade
level (whether they have been held back or are ahead)."

Page 19

"Can players play up a grade level?
SURVEY - Playing Up
SBV will retain the same policy we’ve always had: A player may play up an age
group only if they make the top team in that older division.
❖ Exceptions: Exceptions are rare and reserved for specific Goalkeeper situations
or to combine two small player pools to form a viable team.
Why we aren't delaying the changes:
❖ We have chosen to "rip the Band-Aid off" rather than kick the can down the road.
❖ While we could artificially keep current teams together by moving everyone to
an older age group, we would eventually be forced to fix it.
❖ We believe it is better to realign correctly now. This avoids years of confusion
and temporary fixes, ensuring every player is on the correct long-term
development path immediately"

https://storage.googleapis.com/msgsndr/YNEbnN...173966b1e3b3b9c2.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate reality for age guy is grouping Aug Sept players by grade makes things easier for clubs because theres no oddballs when recruiting or during the teams 8th grade season (grade older players would leave the team for 3-4 months)

Aug birthdays can still guest on grade down teams for tournament wins.

Yay, RAE guy can still get his plastic trophies.

Youth sports has always been about RAE and plastic trophies, even for boomers. RAE is a huge factor in determining who quits and who moves up. It's why Q1 BY so pissed and Q2 annoyed going to SY.

I dont agree and there's studies that show in America because of p2p club soccer. Rae isn't that much of a factor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate reality for age guy is grouping Aug Sept players by grade makes things easier for clubs because theres no oddballs when recruiting or during the teams 8th grade season (grade older players would leave the team for 3-4 months)

Aug birthdays can still guest on grade down teams for tournament wins.

College coaches said they don't care what your age group is only that you can attend the school.

Clubs don't have the capacity to collect and police grade info.

You are just rambling the same stuff without any new info.

Back to ignoring what people are telling you again I see...

ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.

Advised to allow = have some case by case flexibility. Whatever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate reality for age guy is grouping Aug Sept players by grade makes things easier for clubs because theres no oddballs when recruiting or during the teams 8th grade season (grade older players would leave the team for 3-4 months)

Aug birthdays can still guest on grade down teams for tournament wins.

Yay, RAE guy can still get his plastic trophies.

Youth sports has always been about RAE and plastic trophies, even for boomers. RAE is a huge factor in determining who quits and who moves up. It's why Q1 BY so pissed and Q2 annoyed going to SY.

I dont agree and there's studies that show in America because of p2p club soccer. Rae isn't that much of a factor.

No, it's just how you see those studies. The best one that would support your view isn't peer reviewed and doesn't acknowledge the change from SY to BY, among other potential flaws.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate reality for age guy is grouping Aug Sept players by grade makes things easier for clubs because theres no oddballs when recruiting or during the teams 8th grade season (grade older players would leave the team for 3-4 months)

Aug birthdays can still guest on grade down teams for tournament wins.

Yay, RAE guy can still get his plastic trophies.

Youth sports has always been about RAE and plastic trophies, even for boomers. RAE is a huge factor in determining who quits and who moves up. It's why Q1 BY so pissed and Q2 annoyed going to SY.

I dont agree and there's studies that show in America because of p2p club soccer. Rae isn't that much of a factor.

No true. But everyone has their opinion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate reality for age guy is grouping Aug Sept players by grade makes things easier for clubs because theres no oddballs when recruiting or during the teams 8th grade season (grade older players would leave the team for 3-4 months)

Aug birthdays can still guest on grade down teams for tournament wins.

Yay, RAE guy can still get his plastic trophies.

Youth sports has always been about RAE and plastic trophies, even for boomers. RAE is a huge factor in determining who quits and who moves up. It's why Q1 BY so pissed and Q2 annoyed going to SY.

I dont agree and there's studies that show in America because of p2p club soccer. Rae isn't that much of a factor.

No true. But everyone has their opinion.

Like asses and elbows!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate reality for age guy is grouping Aug Sept players by grade makes things easier for clubs because theres no oddballs when recruiting or during the teams 8th grade season (grade older players would leave the team for 3-4 months)

Aug birthdays can still guest on grade down teams for tournament wins.

College coaches said they don't care what your age group is only that you can attend the school.

Clubs don't have the capacity to collect and police grade info.

You are just rambling the same stuff without any new info.

Back to ignoring what people are telling you again I see...

ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.

Advised to allow = have some case by case flexibility. Whatever.

You dont understand that the goal of changing from BY to SY wasnt to allow Aug birthdays tobplay down. The goal was to have all players on a teams the same grade in school (ideally).

"Allow Grade Alignment" is business speak for Aug Sept birthdays play on. the team that's their grade in school. (up or down)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate reality for age guy is grouping Aug Sept players by grade makes things easier for clubs because theres no oddballs when recruiting or during the teams 8th grade season (grade older players would leave the team for 3-4 months)

Aug birthdays can still guest on grade down teams for tournament wins.

College coaches said they don't care what your age group is only that you can attend the school.

Clubs don't have the capacity to collect and police grade info.

You are just rambling the same stuff without any new info.

Back to ignoring what people are telling you again I see...

ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.

Advised to allow = have some case by case flexibility. Whatever.

You dont understand that the goal of changing from BY to SY wasnt to allow Aug birthdays tobplay down. The goal was to have all players on a teams the same grade in school (ideally).

"Allow Grade Alignment" is business speak for Aug Sept birthdays play on. the team that's their grade in school. (up or down)

Wording that's a guy who heard from a guy vs. actual ECNL clubs saying it'll be handled differently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate reality for age guy is grouping Aug Sept players by grade makes things easier for clubs because theres no oddballs when recruiting or during the teams 8th grade season (grade older players would leave the team for 3-4 months)

Aug birthdays can still guest on grade down teams for tournament wins.

College coaches said they don't care what your age group is only that you can attend the school.

Clubs don't have the capacity to collect and police grade info.

You are just rambling the same stuff without any new info.

Back to ignoring what people are telling you again I see...

ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.

Advised to allow = have some case by case flexibility. Whatever.

You dont understand that the goal of changing from BY to SY wasnt to allow Aug birthdays tobplay down. The goal was to have all players on a teams the same grade in school (ideally).

"Allow Grade Alignment" is business speak for Aug Sept birthdays play on. the team that's their grade in school. (up or down)

Wording that's a guy who heard from a guy vs. actual ECNL clubs saying it'll be handled differently.

Every month we get closer to Fall you're going to be proven more and more wrong. Just like I said over a year ago if you dont align your kid (assuming you even have an Aug birthday player) they will be at an oddball club that never wins but only because they'll cater to your playjng down nonsese because they cant find any other players.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate reality for age guy is grouping Aug Sept players by grade makes things easier for clubs because theres no oddballs when recruiting or during the teams 8th grade season (grade older players would leave the team for 3-4 months)

Aug birthdays can still guest on grade down teams for tournament wins.

College coaches said they don't care what your age group is only that you can attend the school.

Clubs don't have the capacity to collect and police grade info.

You are just rambling the same stuff without any new info.

Back to ignoring what people are telling you again I see...

ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.

Advised to allow = have some case by case flexibility. Whatever.

You dont understand that the goal of changing from BY to SY wasnt to allow Aug birthdays tobplay down. The goal was to have all players on a teams the same grade in school (ideally).

"Allow Grade Alignment" is business speak for Aug Sept birthdays play on. the team that's their grade in school. (up or down)

Wording that's a guy who heard from a guy vs. actual ECNL clubs saying it'll be handled differently.

Every month we get closer to Fall you're going to be proven more and more wrong. Just like I said over a year ago if you dont align your kid (assuming you even have an Aug birthday player) they will be at an oddball club that never wins but only because they'll cater to your playjng down nonsese because they cant find any other players.

Except for the reports that B Team misaligned players are practicing with the younger A team at clubs in top tier leagues AND all the ECNL clubs who said they're going case-by-case and even one who said grade has no impact at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate reality for age guy is grouping Aug Sept players by grade makes things easier for clubs because theres no oddballs when recruiting or during the teams 8th grade season (grade older players would leave the team for 3-4 months)

Aug birthdays can still guest on grade down teams for tournament wins.

College coaches said they don't care what your age group is only that you can attend the school.

Clubs don't have the capacity to collect and police grade info.

You are just rambling the same stuff without any new info.

Back to ignoring what people are telling you again I see...

ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.

Advised to allow = have some case by case flexibility. Whatever.

You dont understand that the goal of changing from BY to SY wasnt to allow Aug birthdays tobplay down. The goal was to have all players on a teams the same grade in school (ideally).

"Allow Grade Alignment" is business speak for Aug Sept birthdays play on. the team that's their grade in school. (up or down)

Wording that's a guy who heard from a guy vs. actual ECNL clubs saying it'll be handled differently.

Every month we get closer to Fall you're going to be proven more and more wrong. Just like I said over a year ago if you dont align your kid (assuming you even have an Aug birthday player) they will be at an oddball club that never wins but only because they'll cater to your playjng down nonsese because they cant find any other players.

You can't really fall, tho, if you don't ultimately care about the outcome and only care about the facts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate reality for age guy is grouping Aug Sept players by grade makes things easier for clubs because theres no oddballs when recruiting or during the teams 8th grade season (grade older players would leave the team for 3-4 months)

Aug birthdays can still guest on grade down teams for tournament wins.

College coaches said they don't care what your age group is only that you can attend the school.

Clubs don't have the capacity to collect and police grade info.

You are just rambling the same stuff without any new info.

Back to ignoring what people are telling you again I see...

ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.

Advised to allow = have some case by case flexibility. Whatever.

You dont understand that the goal of changing from BY to SY wasnt to allow Aug birthdays tobplay down. The goal was to have all players on a teams the same grade in school (ideally).

"Allow Grade Alignment" is business speak for Aug Sept birthdays play on. the team that's their grade in school. (up or down)

Wording that's a guy who heard from a guy vs. actual ECNL clubs saying it'll be handled differently.

Every month we get closer to Fall you're going to be proven more and more wrong. Just like I said over a year ago if you dont align your kid (assuming you even have an Aug birthday player) they will be at an oddball club that never wins but only because they'll cater to your playjng down nonsese because they cant find any other players.

Ha-ha ... from a guy who used to say ALL misalgined players would be forced up (or should be or would be secretly)!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate reality for age guy is grouping Aug Sept players by grade makes things easier for clubs because theres no oddballs when recruiting or during the teams 8th grade season (grade older players would leave the team for 3-4 months)

Aug birthdays can still guest on grade down teams for tournament wins.

College coaches said they don't care what your age group is only that you can attend the school.

Clubs don't have the capacity to collect and police grade info.

You are just rambling the same stuff without any new info.

Back to ignoring what people are telling you again I see...

ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.

Advised to allow = have some case by case flexibility. Whatever.

You dont understand that the goal of changing from BY to SY wasnt to allow Aug birthdays tobplay down. The goal was to have all players on a teams the same grade in school (ideally).

"Allow Grade Alignment" is business speak for Aug Sept birthdays play on. the team that's their grade in school. (up or down)

Wording that's a guy who heard from a guy vs. actual ECNL clubs saying it'll be handled differently.

Every month we get closer to Fall you're going to be proven more and more wrong. Just like I said over a year ago if you dont align your kid (assuming you even have an Aug birthday player) they will be at an oddball club that never wins but only because they'll cater to your playjng down nonsese because they cant find any other players.

Ha-ha ... from a guy who used to say ALL misalgined players would be forced up (or should be or would be secretly)!

They will be or you'll get the pleasure of playing at the club that never wins. If thats your dream so be it. Might as well play town/rec.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate reality for age guy is grouping Aug Sept players by grade makes things easier for clubs because theres no oddballs when recruiting or during the teams 8th grade season (grade older players would leave the team for 3-4 months)

Aug birthdays can still guest on grade down teams for tournament wins.

College coaches said they don't care what your age group is only that you can attend the school.

Clubs don't have the capacity to collect and police grade info.

You are just rambling the same stuff without any new info.

Back to ignoring what people are telling you again I see...

ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.

Advised to allow = have some case by case flexibility. Whatever.

You dont understand that the goal of changing from BY to SY wasnt to allow Aug birthdays tobplay down. The goal was to have all players on a teams the same grade in school (ideally).

"Allow Grade Alignment" is business speak for Aug Sept birthdays play on. the team that's their grade in school. (up or down)

Wording that's a guy who heard from a guy vs. actual ECNL clubs saying it'll be handled differently.

Every month we get closer to Fall you're going to be proven more and more wrong. Just like I said over a year ago if you dont align your kid (assuming you even have an Aug birthday player) they will be at an oddball club that never wins but only because they'll cater to your playjng down nonsese because they cant find any other players.

Ha-ha ... from a guy who used to say ALL misalgined players would be forced up (or should be or would be secretly)!

They will be or you'll get the pleasure of playing at the club that never wins. If thats your dream so be it. Might as well play town/rec.

Plenty of ECNL teams never really win -- but they love to say their players get recruited.