Hardy and Deal are both ranked 8 on greatschools.org

[Anonymous]

so why is Hardy so bad in the eyes of seemingly every DCUM poster? Anytime anyone recommends a neighborhood zoned for Hardy on the Real Estate forum, for example, five posters immediately say "well it's zoned for Hardy, and OP said schools were important...." Help me understand, please!

[Anonymous]

greatschools is a sham

[Anonymous]

We are zoned for Deal but I think Hardy is just as good. If anything, it's less crowded than Deal which gives it an advantage in my book.

[Anonymous]

It's the diversity -- and lingering reputation from years ago.

Great schools has changed its methodology. It is mostly about PARCC test scores -- but both includes both proficiency and growth.

Deal has stronger proficiency scores, but its minority students' proficiency scores lag behind white students. And the minority students at Deal don't improve as much year to year as the students at Hardy do.

So it all evens out as an '8.'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:greatschools is a sham

"Sham" is a little harsh. They have a shallow, one-dimensional methodology.

[Anonymous]

Uniforms!!!!!!

Seriously, Hardy is clearly a solid and improving MS. It was not always so, and there is some racial/SES prejudice against Hardy. I've noticed that a lot of people who slag on specific schools, or on DCPS in general, don't actually have recent experience with the school, and are relying on outdated reputations and secondhand opinions. Which is not to say that the schools are perfect, but that the opinions of people who don't have recent, firsthand experience should be taken with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are zoned for Deal but I think Hardy is just as good. If anything, it's less crowded than Deal which gives it an advantage in my book.

+1

[Anonymous]

Great Schools' methodology:

In the past, the overall GreatSchools Rating in most states was based on test scores. In some states*, the GreatSchools Rating was also based on student progress (or “growth”) and college readiness data (SAT/ACT participation and/or performance and/or graduation rates). Our school profiles now include important information in addition to test scores — factors that make a big difference in how children experience school, such as how much a school helps students improve academically, how well a school supports students from different socioeconomic, racial, and ethnic groups, and whether or not some groups of students are disproportionately affected by the school’s discipline and attendance policies. Many of these important themes now have their own rating, and these themed ratings are incorporated into the school’s overall GreatSchools Summary Rating.

Note: Some states do not have sufficient information to generate a Summary Rating (Alaska, Idaho, Maine, North Dakota, New Hampshire, South Dakota, and Vermont). In these states, we default to the school’s Test Score Rating as the overall rating displayed at the top of the profile.

GreatSchools ratings follow a 1-10 scale, where 10 is the highest and 1 is the lowest. Ratings at the lower end of the scale (1-3) signal that the school is “below average,” 4-7 indicate “average,” and 8-10 are “above average.” Each rating has its own color corresponding to this scale, ranging from green (10) to yellow to orange (1) to help you see the distinctions.

*TX, FL, NY, GA, IL, NJ, NC, MI, OH, MA, CO, IN, WI, KY, OK, HI, DE and DC

[Anonymous]

Any updates on Hardy IB data? Either percent from feeder schools, or percent "true IB"? Or updated FARMS data?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any updates on Hardy IB data? Either percent from feeder schools, or percent "true IB"? Or updated FARMS data?

It is whocares% from feeder schools, you'reracist% "true IB", and superclassist% FARMS.

Hope that helps!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any updates on Hardy IB data? Either percent from feeder schools, or percent "true IB"? Or updated FARMS data?

It is whocares% from feeder schools, you'reracist% "true IB", and superclassist% FARMS.

Hope that helps!

Those estimates sound about right to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any updates on Hardy IB data? Either percent from feeder schools, or percent "true IB"? Or updated FARMS data?

It is whocares% from feeder schools, you'reracist% "true IB", and superclassist% FARMS.

Hope that helps!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Uniforms!!!!!!

Seriously, Hardy is clearly a solid and improving MS. It was not always so, and there is some racial/SES prejudice against Hardy. I've noticed that a lot of people who slag on specific schools, or on DCPS in general, don't actually have recent experience with the school, and are relying on outdated reputations and secondhand opinions. Which is not to say that the schools are perfect, but that the opinions of people who don't have recent, firsthand experience should be taken with a grain of salt.

Jeff, can you pin this to this forum’s home screen?

[Anonymous]

We are leaving our private for Deal. Honestly, I have never heard anyone complain about Deal, except for communications. This has not been the case for other schools (or MS programs).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are leaving our private for Deal. Honestly, I have never heard anyone complain about Deal, except for communications. This has not been the case for other schools (or MS programs).

PS...would be ok with Hardy too. Although, I haven’t met anyone with a child in Hardy.