FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:FIX RACHEL CARSON SPLIT FEEDER NOW

How would you fix it? Which schools should it feed?

Remove AAP at the middle school level/no student should be allowed to select a center school if their local school has AAP.

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But this should go for elementary schools too.

I disagree for elementary schools.

But middle schools are a different story.

ALL centers are redundant and wasteful.

It's much cheaper to bus a few kids to a different elementary school than to hire more teachers for the small number of AAP kids per grade. You'd just go from whining about your kid not getting into the AAP center to whining about them not getting the better student:teacher ratio forced by eliminating the center.

Teacher here. This is false. Centers are not needed when there is a large peer group. Example: our third grade class had 16 kids get into AAP. 3 left for center and are being bussed there. No teacher needed to be hired cause there already is one. I am fine with sending kids to a center if there is not a large peer group of kids, but when there is, it should not be allowed. It is wasteful.

So in this case, are you suggesting a single classroom of 16 AAP kids at the home school? Wouldn't that potentially leave the other classrooms much larger? I'm thinking of our school, for examples, where one class of 16 would mean the other two classes would have 30+ each. How is that fair?

No the classroom would be filled with other high achieving kids. Our classes at our school are mostly in the 19-24 range. So it could be 3-5 Level 3 kids.

So then you will be even more unhappy when your kid still ends up just outside those 25 high achieving kids, and is placed in classes for the rest of elementary school with the lower 2/3s of students.

Can you imagine the complaints then, from the mom who fights to eliminates centers because she thinks Larla will make the LL4 cut, only to discover that bringing those 15 or so center kids back into a LL4 class moves Larla from the bottom of the top students at the school to solidly in the middle of the class, where she is now placed with even lower performing students than she was when the AAP kids went somewhere else? And she has to watch the advanced LL4 AAP grouping together in one class at her school year after year, together from 3rd to 6th grade, while Larla is always in different classes, knowing that if AAP still had centers Larla would be back to being in the top group of students again?

Eliminating centers at the elementary level is not going to be the utopia some think it will be.

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Anonymous wrote:We should add capacity where needed based on a demonstrated need, not blind speculation about future growth. Otherwise we waste capital dollars.

Do you have any idea how long it takes to "catch up" by building a school?

It would be wise to expand Centreville. That neighborhood behind Centreville should be there--not in Fairfax.

It would be foolish to expand Centreville beyond 2500 seats, just as it was foolish to expand West Potomac to 3000. If you want Willow Springs at Centreville then figure out if it’s going to push Centreville above 2500 and, if so, make the case that other schools should be redistricted to take advantage of the hundreds of empty seats at Herndon.

Let us know as well who you’re planning to send to Fairfax in lieu of the Willow Springs kids or if you’re arguing for FCPS to repudiate its longstanding arrangement with Fairfax City and just leave Fairfax as a school for Fairfax City kids.

You don’t deserve a massive addition when actual overcrowding at other schools remains unaddressed just because you want an insurance policy that Willow Springs will get moved.

I think it's reasonable to re-look at the agreement with Fairfax City. Not being able to move the City kids has contributed significantly to the "funny lines" that the consultants seem to desperate to fix. If Fairfax City wants to be part of FCPS, then they need to be part of FCPS completely.

Every pyramid in FCPS should have the ability to have the same type of self governance that Fairfax Coty has.

Our town would LOVE that type of representation and the ability to lock in a guarantee to our high school without the threat of arbitrary rezoning every 5 years.

PP. Obviously Fairfax City wouldn't/shouldn't agree to the rezoning. They have a great situation. I agree that everyone should be able to have that amount of stability.

The stability comes from an agreement that says FCPS will educate City kids and the City will pay for it but they can't be moved. It's a two party agreement - FCPS could come back and say "we'll educate your kids but we can't keep the boundaries the same. Too much has changed since we made this agreement and our students are suffering." FCPS can't back out completely though because 2/3 of kids at Fairfax are county kids. There is no where else to put them.

But it's worth a look and conversation given what a complete mess things are in. The agreement hasn't been revisited since it was written in the 1960s (if we are keeping track of "things we haven't done is so long they simply must be done.")

It’s Fairfax City that has the leverage because it has the additional seats to educate county kids.

Some people in the western part of the county apparently think FCPS can just repudiate the agreement and then spend all its capital dollars for the foreseeable future adding capacity in western Fairfax. There’s no appetite for this. If anything it’s the current planned expansion of Centreville that needs to be scaled back.

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Anonymous wrote:FIX RACHEL CARSON SPLIT FEEDER NOW

How would you fix it? Which schools should it feed?

Remove AAP at the middle school level/no student should be allowed to select a center school if their local school has AAP.

+100
But this should go for elementary schools too.

I disagree for elementary schools.

But middle schools are a different story.

ALL centers are redundant and wasteful.

It's much cheaper to bus a few kids to a different elementary school than to hire more teachers for the small number of AAP kids per grade. You'd just go from whining about your kid not getting into the AAP center to whining about them not getting the better student:teacher ratio forced by eliminating the center.

Teacher here. This is false. Centers are not needed when there is a large peer group. Example: our third grade class had 16 kids get into AAP. 3 left for center and are being bussed there. No teacher needed to be hired cause there already is one. I am fine with sending kids to a center if there is not a large peer group of kids, but when there is, it should not be allowed. It is wasteful.

So in this case, are you suggesting a single classroom of 16 AAP kids at the home school? Wouldn't that potentially leave the other classrooms much larger? I'm thinking of our school, for examples, where one class of 16 would mean the other two classes would have 30+ each. How is that fair?

No the classroom would be filled with other high achieving kids. Our classes at our school are mostly in the 19-24 range. So it could be 3-5 Level 3 kids.

So then you will be even more unhappy when your kid still ends up just outside those 25 high achieving kids, and is placed in classes for the rest of elementary school with the lower 2/3s of students.

Can you imagine the complaints then, from the mom who fights to eliminates centers because she thinks Larla will make the LL4 cut, only to discover that bringing those 15 or so center kids back into a LL4 class moves Larla from the bottom of the top students at the school to solidly in the middle of the class, where she is now placed with even lower performing students than she was when the AAP kids went somewhere else? And she has to watch the advanced LL4 AAP grouping together in one class at her school year after year, together from 3rd to 6th grade, while Larla is always in different classes, knowing that if AAP still had centers Larla would be back to being in the top group of students again?

Eliminating centers at the elementary level is not going to be the utopia some think it will be.

There is already a thread on eliminating AAP centers. Take your convo there.

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Anonymous wrote:FIX RACHEL CARSON SPLIT FEEDER NOW

How would you fix it? Which schools should it feed?

Remove AAP at the middle school level/no student should be allowed to select a center school if their local school has AAP.

+100
But this should go for elementary schools too.

I disagree for elementary schools.

But middle schools are a different story.

ALL centers are redundant and wasteful.

It's much cheaper to bus a few kids to a different elementary school than to hire more teachers for the small number of AAP kids per grade. You'd just go from whining about your kid not getting into the AAP center to whining about them not getting the better student:teacher ratio forced by eliminating the center.

Teacher here. This is false. Centers are not needed when there is a large peer group. Example: our third grade class had 16 kids get into AAP. 3 left for center and are being bussed there. No teacher needed to be hired cause there already is one. I am fine with sending kids to a center if there is not a large peer group of kids, but when there is, it should not be allowed. It is wasteful.

Sorry for typos. Typed quickly with one hand while holding my son.

The budget for transportation for AAP is $8 million. That is very small in a budget over 2 billion. As a teacher, the real issue with keeping LLIV is that the kids in the class are stuck together from 3-6. No one can switch classes if they don’t get along, no one can request that kids not be placed together and eventually, with no new kids, that cohort becomes too sibling like. In that sense, centers help everyone out because the kids can be regrouped every year.

I teach AAP and this can also be a beautiful thing. Our seniors who came back loved having a close knit group. We move other kids in/out throughout the years. There are SPED kids who should be separated and cannot be due to services.

With Benchmark for all, there is no reason to bus kids to centers when there is a large enough group. AAP is not a gifted program as it once was. If they want to have centers it should go back to the small percentage of kids who need it.
8 million dollars seems small but can literally hire more teachers, assistants, etc.

Well you wouldn't get the full 8 million because some schools don't have enough kids for even a half AAP / half level 3 pull-ins class... they'd still give AAP kids at those schools the option to transfer. But with those carveouts you'd probably get about 6 million in savings, which would be enough to restore the funding for an AART per school instead of splitting them across 2 schools.

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Anonymous wrote:We should add capacity where needed based on a demonstrated need, not blind speculation about future growth. Otherwise we waste capital dollars.

Adding capacity when a renovation is necessary and then adjusting boundaries is far more cost-effective than trying to play whack-a-mole with expansions.

Size of new square footage can be an issue. Scoping on Mclean study had Herndon HS at getting expanded to 2500 and it ended up at >2700. Falls Church was a CIP constant build to 2500. given the huge inknown of acadeies taking up square footage at Chantilly it is reasonable to assume some could spin off to the huge new Herndon HS plus the mega site to be built at Centreville.

It is ridiculous that Liberty and Stone have AAP Level IV yet students are given the AAP Level iv transfer option to Rocky Run. Each of those sites has significant AAP Level iv and significant offloads to Rocky Run. That distorts the base school capacity for Rocky Run which could then get a boundary change for some from Franklin. Carson is so huge it likely will always be a split but the feed for the split should be from the Herndon pyramid due to the capacities of it's MS/HS.

When did these schools get local. I don’t think so.

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Anonymous wrote:We should add capacity where needed based on a demonstrated need, not blind speculation about future growth. Otherwise we waste capital dollars.

Do you have any idea how long it takes to "catch up" by building a school?

It would be wise to expand Centreville. That neighborhood behind Centreville should be there--not in Fairfax.

It would be foolish to expand Centreville beyond 2500 seats, just as it was foolish to expand West Potomac to 3000. If you want Willow Springs at Centreville then figure out if it’s going to push Centreville above 2500 and, if so, make the case that other schools should be redistricted to take advantage of the hundreds of empty seats at Herndon.

Let us know as well who you’re planning to send to Fairfax in lieu of the Willow Springs kids or if you’re arguing for FCPS to repudiate its longstanding arrangement with Fairfax City and just leave Fairfax as a school for Fairfax City kids.

Herndon High School is 17 miles from Centreville. Fairfax can easily afford to lose Willow Springs. Remember, there is a large residential development going up nearby.

You don’t deserve a massive addition when actual overcrowding at other schools remains unaddressed just because you want an insurance policy that Willow Springs will get moved.

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Herndon High School is 17 miles from Centreville. Fairfax can easily afford to lose Willow Springs. Remember, there is a large residential development going up nearby.

They can move Centreville kids to Westfield or Chantilly and then ultimately move other kids to Herndon. They wouldn’t move from Centreville directly to Herndon.

Moving Willow Springs out of Fairfax would leave it with only three ES in its pyramid and some other kids from split feeders. Not enough for a viable FCPS HS without other moves.

Expanding Centreville to 3000 is a ridiculous waste of money when there are hundreds of empty seats at Herndon.

A majority of Willow Springs kids can bike to Centreville. That’s how close it is. I don’t think you know the area

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Anonymous wrote:We should add capacity where needed based on a demonstrated need, not blind speculation about future growth. Otherwise we waste capital dollars.

Do you have any idea how long it takes to "catch up" by building a school?

It would be wise to expand Centreville. That neighborhood behind Centreville should be there--not in Fairfax.

It would be foolish to expand Centreville beyond 2500 seats, just as it was foolish to expand West Potomac to 3000. If you want Willow Springs at Centreville then figure out if it’s going to push Centreville above 2500 and, if so, make the case that other schools should be redistricted to take advantage of the hundreds of empty seats at Herndon.

Let us know as well who you’re planning to send to Fairfax in lieu of the Willow Springs kids or if you’re arguing for FCPS to repudiate its longstanding arrangement with Fairfax City and just leave Fairfax as a school for Fairfax City kids.

Herndon High School is 17 miles from Centreville. Fairfax can easily afford to lose Willow Springs. Remember, there is a large residential development going up nearby.

You don’t deserve a massive addition when actual overcrowding at other schools remains unaddressed just because you want an insurance policy that Willow Springs will get moved.

Messed up last response:

Herndon High School is 17 miles from Centreville. Fairfax can easily afford to lose Willow Springs. Remember, there is a large residential development going up nearby.

They can move Centreville kids to Westfield or Chantilly and then ultimately move other kids to Herndon. They wouldn’t move from Centreville directly to Herndon.

Moving Willow Springs out of Fairfax would leave it with only three ES in its pyramid and some other kids from split feeders. Not enough for a viable FCPS HS without other moves.

Expanding Centreville to 3000 is a ridiculous waste of money when there are hundreds of empty seats at Herndon.

A majority of Willow Springs kids can bike to Centreville. That’s how close it is. I don’t think you know the area

I think the anti-expansion person is Herndon mom who thinks that they can just bump kids over to Herndon. It doesn't work that way. And, by the way, the last time Herndon was looked at in a boundary study, they turned down kids on the 20171 side of the DTR because they didn't like who they would get.

But, an easy--and money savings solution--would be to begin by eliminating IB. That would likely bring back 160 kids to Herndon who are likely not FARMS--which is what Herndon is seeking.

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(cont.) and they are certainly not going to bump Centreville kids to Chantilly.

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Anonymous wrote:We should add capacity where needed based on a demonstrated need, not blind speculation about future growth. Otherwise we waste capital dollars.

Do you have any idea how long it takes to "catch up" by building a school?

It would be wise to expand Centreville. That neighborhood behind Centreville should be there--not in Fairfax.

It would be foolish to expand Centreville beyond 2500 seats, just as it was foolish to expand West Potomac to 3000. If you want Willow Springs at Centreville then figure out if it’s going to push Centreville above 2500 and, if so, make the case that other schools should be redistricted to take advantage of the hundreds of empty seats at Herndon.

Let us know as well who you’re planning to send to Fairfax in lieu of the Willow Springs kids or if you’re arguing for FCPS to repudiate its longstanding arrangement with Fairfax City and just leave Fairfax as a school for Fairfax City kids.

Herndon High School is 17 miles from Centreville. Fairfax can easily afford to lose Willow Springs. Remember, there is a large residential development going up nearby.

You don’t deserve a massive addition when actual overcrowding at other schools remains unaddressed just because you want an insurance policy that Willow Springs will get moved.

Messed up last response:

Herndon High School is 17 miles from Centreville. Fairfax can easily afford to lose Willow Springs. Remember, there is a large residential development going up nearby.

They can move Centreville kids to Westfield or Chantilly and then ultimately move other kids to Herndon. They wouldn’t move from Centreville directly to Herndon.

Moving Willow Springs out of Fairfax would leave it with only three ES in its pyramid and some other kids from split feeders. Not enough for a viable FCPS HS without other moves.

Expanding Centreville to 3000 is a ridiculous waste of money when there are hundreds of empty seats at Herndon.

A majority of Willow Springs kids can bike to Centreville. That’s how close it is. I don’t think you know the area

There are kids all over the county who can bike to schools to which they aren’t assigned. That doesn’t mean we expand all of those schools to absurd sizes. 3000 is a ridiculous size for a high school, and especially ridiculous when there are hundreds of empty seats at Herndon and other middle and high schools in need of expansions.

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Anonymous wrote:We should add capacity where needed based on a demonstrated need, not blind speculation about future growth. Otherwise we waste capital dollars.

Do you have any idea how long it takes to "catch up" by building a school?

It would be wise to expand Centreville. That neighborhood behind Centreville should be there--not in Fairfax.

It would be foolish to expand Centreville beyond 2500 seats, just as it was foolish to expand West Potomac to 3000. If you want Willow Springs at Centreville then figure out if it’s going to push Centreville above 2500 and, if so, make the case that other schools should be redistricted to take advantage of the hundreds of empty seats at Herndon.

Let us know as well who you’re planning to send to Fairfax in lieu of the Willow Springs kids or if you’re arguing for FCPS to repudiate its longstanding arrangement with Fairfax City and just leave Fairfax as a school for Fairfax City kids.

Herndon High School is 17 miles from Centreville. Fairfax can easily afford to lose Willow Springs. Remember, there is a large residential development going up nearby.

You don’t deserve a massive addition when actual overcrowding at other schools remains unaddressed just because you want an insurance policy that Willow Springs will get moved.

Messed up last response:

Herndon High School is 17 miles from Centreville. Fairfax can easily afford to lose Willow Springs. Remember, there is a large residential development going up nearby.

They can move Centreville kids to Westfield or Chantilly and then ultimately move other kids to Herndon. They wouldn’t move from Centreville directly to Herndon.

Moving Willow Springs out of Fairfax would leave it with only three ES in its pyramid and some other kids from split feeders. Not enough for a viable FCPS HS without other moves.

Expanding Centreville to 3000 is a ridiculous waste of money when there are hundreds of empty seats at Herndon.

A majority of Willow Springs kids can bike to Centreville. That’s how close it is. I don’t think you know the area

I think the anti-expansion person is Herndon mom who thinks that they can just bump kids over to Herndon. It doesn't work that way. And, by the way, the last time Herndon was looked at in a boundary study, they turned down kids on the 20171 side of the DTR because they didn't like who they would get.

But, an easy--and money savings solution--would be to begin by eliminating IB. That would likely bring back 160 kids to Herndon who are likely not FARMS--which is what Herndon is seeking.

You are wrong on every count. Not anti-expansion, just against wasting money on expanding Centreville all the way to 3000 when boundaries can be adjusted to take advantage of the seats already added at Herndon.

And just because they refuse to eliminate IB does not mean we have to waste even more money at Centreville, which is simply doubling down on unnecessary spending.

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Anonymous wrote:(cont.) and they are certainly not going to bump Centreville kids to Chantilly.

They can move Centreville kids to Chantilly, Chantilly kids to Westfield, and Westfield kids to Herndon, or leave Chantilly out of it and move Centreville kids to Westfield and Westfield kids to Herndon.

Either would avoid wasting money on Centreville, which should only be expanded to 2500.

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The Fairfax City agreement dates to 1978 versus the 60s. The city has a lot of county kids in it's schools. The county needs the seats at least until they expand Centerville or build the pi in the sky western high school. Another issue possibly larger more immediate problem is seats in Elementary school, Providence ES is at least 1/3 county kids including two large relatively low-income apartments on the city side of 66 but not in the city. If you kill the city agreement those kids need to go to Oakton or Mosaic and that would be an immediate issue. I think it's three loaded buses from those two complexes alone, never mind the neighborhoods across the street from Oakmont Rec and Flint High Upper School. Also the county is redeveloping an office building to townhouse across from Oakmont and the site work is in progress and the AT&T project of hundreds of town houses and condos. Of course, if Karl Firsch hadn't killed the Blake Lane School for the dog park and his Dunn Loring boondoggle the looming elementary capacity problem wouldn't be an issue. The City is not going to add more trailers to Providence beyond the two mostly used for specials. THe City and the County basically need each other, the City needs county kids to not have a crazy small high school and the county especially needs Providence and Katherine Johnson for seats.

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Part of the capacity problem goes back to the baby bomb and post war eras and so many schools built in the eastern and central part of the county. Capacity was needed then the boomers grew up and capacity was way down due to less kids and the younger families moving west. In Central Fairfax you could almost walk between Madison, Oakton, Fairfax and Woodson. There is about 2 miles between Madison, Oakton and Fairfax and 3 miles between Fairfax and Woodson if you use local streets.

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Anonymous wrote:We should add capacity where needed based on a demonstrated need, not blind speculation about future growth. Otherwise we waste capital dollars.

Adding capacity when a renovation is necessary and then adjusting boundaries is far more cost-effective than trying to play whack-a-mole with expansions.

Size of new square footage can be an issue. Scoping on Mclean study had Herndon HS at getting expanded to 2500 and it ended up at >2700. Falls Church was a CIP constant build to 2500. given the huge inknown of acadeies taking up square footage at Chantilly it is reasonable to assume some could spin off to the huge new Herndon HS plus the mega site to be built at Centreville.

It is ridiculous that Liberty and Stone have AAP Level IV yet students are given the AAP Level iv transfer option to Rocky Run. Each of those sites has significant AAP Level iv and significant offloads to Rocky Run. That distorts the base school capacity for Rocky Run which could then get a boundary change for some from Franklin. Carson is so huge it likely will always be a split but the feed for the split should be from the Herndon pyramid due to the capacities of it's MS/HS.

When did these schools get local. I don’t think so.

FCPS School profile demographics are based on June membership. There's a lag from Facilities dashboard which is Sept. The dashboad includes total transfers for AAP [bus], sped [bus], immersion, student transfer regulation. The 2nd transfer data set is again Sept membership and shows the actual count per site transferring in. If <10 it shows 1.

School Profiles average AAP level iv for SY21-22, 22-23,23-24/SY24-25 AAP total transfer in, per school:
Carson : oakton 807 / SY24-25 266 AAP transfer in, total from Franklin 273-
Franklin : chantilly 203
Liberty : centreville 181
Rocky Run : chantilly 544/ SY24-25 225 AAP transfer in, totals from Franklin 29+Liberty 124 + Stone 86
Stone : westfield 150

So is this the type of stuff that should be looked at in what is supposed to be a comprehensive review? Check the numbers on the 2 FCPS sources-school profiles and facilities dashboard. Year opened: Liberty [serve Centreville/Clifton area as per FCPS] 2002 Carson 1998, Stone 1991

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We should add capacity where needed based on a demonstrated need, not blind speculation about future growth. Otherwise we waste capital dollars.

Adding capacity when a renovation is necessary and then adjusting boundaries is far more cost-effective than trying to play whack-a-mole with expansions.

Size of new square footage can be an issue. Scoping on Mclean study had Herndon HS at getting expanded to 2500 and it ended up at >2700. Falls Church was a CIP constant build to 2500. given the huge inknown of acadeies taking up square footage at Chantilly it is reasonable to assume some could spin off to the huge new Herndon HS plus the mega site to be built at Centreville.

It is ridiculous that Liberty and Stone have AAP Level IV yet students are given the AAP Level iv transfer option to Rocky Run. Each of those sites has significant AAP Level iv and significant offloads to Rocky Run. That distorts the base school capacity for Rocky Run which could then get a boundary change for some from Franklin. Carson is so huge it likely will always be a split but the feed for the split should be from the Herndon pyramid due to the capacities of it's MS/HS.

When did these schools get local. I don’t think so.

FCPS School profile demographics are based on June membership. There's a lag from Facilities dashboard which is Sept. The dashboad includes total transfers for AAP [bus], sped [bus], immersion, student transfer regulation. The 2nd transfer data set is again Sept membership and shows the actual count per site transferring in. If <10 it shows 1.

School Profiles average AAP level iv for SY21-22, 22-23,23-24/SY24-25 AAP total transfer in, per school:
Carson : oakton 807 / SY24-25 266 AAP transfer in, total from Franklin 273-
Franklin : chantilly 203
Liberty : centreville 181
Rocky Run : chantilly 544/ SY24-25 225 AAP transfer in, totals from Franklin 29+Liberty 124 + Stone 86
Stone : westfield 150

So is this the type of stuff that should be looked at in what is supposed to be a comprehensive review? Check the numbers on the 2 FCPS sources-school profiles and facilities dashboard. Year opened: Liberty [serve Centreville/Clifton area as per FCPS] 2002 Carson 1998, Stone 1991

I think you know what you are doing, but I really don't understand. Could you summarize in plain English what this proves?