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Size of new square footage can be an issue. Scoping on Mclean study had Herndon HS at getting expanded to 2500 and it ended up at >2700. Falls Church was a CIP constant build to 2500. given the huge inknown of acadeies taking up square footage at Chantilly it is reasonable to assume some could spin off to the huge new Herndon HS plus the mega site to be built at Centreville. It is ridiculous that Liberty and Stone have AAP Level IV yet students are given the AAP Level iv transfer option to Rocky Run. Each of those sites has significant AAP Level iv and significant offloads to Rocky Run. That distorts the base school capacity for Rocky Run which could then get a boundary change for some from Franklin. Carson is so huge it likely will always be a split but the feed for the split should be from the Herndon pyramid due to the capacities of it's MS/HS. |
This is the foolish thinking that has led to unnecessary additions to schools that weren’t needed followed by boundary change proposals that aren’t welcome. It makes things easier for lazy Gatehouse employers and worse for families. What you can “whack a mole” is actually smarter planning. |
No the classroom would be filled with other high achieving kids. Our classes at our school are mostly in the 19-24 range. So it could be 3-5 Level 3 kids. |
I teach AAP and this can also be a beautiful thing. Our seniors who came back loved having a close knit group. We move other kids in/out throughout the years. There are SPED kids who should be separated and cannot be due to services. With Benchmark for all, there is no reason to bus kids to centers when there is a large enough group. AAP is not a gifted program as it once was. If they want to have centers it should go back to the small percentage of kids who need it. 8 million dollars seems small but can literally hire more teachers, assistants, etc. |
So then you will be even more unhappy when your kid still ends up just outside those 25 high achieving kids, and is placed in classes for the rest of elementary school witj the lower 2/3s of students. |
Can you imagine the complaints then, from the mom who fights to eliminates centers because she thinks Larla will make the LL4 cut, only to discover that bringing those 15 or so center kids back into a LL4 class moves Larla from the bottom of the top students at the school to solidly in the middle of the class, where she is now placed with even lower performing students than she was when the AAP kids went somewhere else? And she has to watch the advanced LL4 AAP grouping together in one class at her school year after year, together from 3rd to 6th grade, while Larla is always in different classes, knowing that if AAP still had centers Larla would be back to being in the top group of students again? Eliminating centers at the elementary level is not going to be the utopia some think it will be. |
It’s Fairfax City that has the leverage because it has the additional seats to educate county kids. Some people in the western part of the county apparently think FCPS can just repudiate the agreement and then spend all its capital dollars for the foreseeable future adding capacity in western Fairfax. There’s no appetite for this. If anything it’s the current planned expansion of Centreville that needs to be scaled back. |
There is already a thread on eliminating AAP centers. Take your convo there. |
Well you wouldn't get the full 8 million because some schools don't have enough kids for even a half AAP / half level 3 pull-ins class... they'd still give AAP kids at those schools the option to transfer. But with those carveouts you'd probably get about 6 million in savings, which would be enough to restore the funding for an AART per school instead of splitting them across 2 schools. |
When did these schools get local. I don’t think so. |
A majority of Willow Springs kids can bike to Centreville. That’s how close it is. I don’t think you know the area |
I think the anti-expansion person is Herndon mom who thinks that they can just bump kids over to Herndon. It doesn't work that way. And, by the way, the last time Herndon was looked at in a boundary study, they turned down kids on the 20171 side of the DTR because they didn't like who they would get. But, an easy--and money savings solution--would be to begin by eliminating IB. That would likely bring back 160 kids to Herndon who are likely not FARMS--which is what Herndon is seeking. |
| (cont.) and they are certainly not going to bump Centreville kids to Chantilly. |
There are kids all over the county who can bike to schools to which they aren’t assigned. That doesn’t mean we expand all of those schools to absurd sizes. 3000 is a ridiculous size for a high school, and especially ridiculous when there are hundreds of empty seats at Herndon and other middle and high schools in need of expansions. |
You are wrong on every count. Not anti-expansion, just against wasting money on expanding Centreville all the way to 3000 when boundaries can be adjusted to take advantage of the seats already added at Herndon. And just because they refuse to eliminate IB does not mean we have to waste even more money at Centreville, which is simply doubling down on unnecessary spending. |