It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

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If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

Same with renaming military bases. I have not seen one leader talk about the cost. It will be in the billions. Think about it, it costs around $1million to change the name of a high school. Some of these Army posts are huge and have multiple entrances with many, many buildings, etc. with names on them. This does not even take into account the amount of man hours to figure it all out.
Even choosing the new names will be very expensive. Do you think re-naming commissions come free?

And, anyone who has ever served knows how much red tape can get messed up. Cannot wait to see all the messed up orders for soldiers as a result. This is going to be a very expensive can of worms.

And, until it was brought up,no one even knew or cared who the posts were named after. If there are any statues, etc, honoring these guys, remove them. But, no one is "honoring" them by serving there.

The billions could be better spent on the soldiers themselves.

PP here. I'm fine with spending a few million on this. Your "in the billions" speculation is just speculation.

You have no idea. There are at least ten Army posts. And, if one school is one million, it easily will be in the billions. Have you ever been to Fort Bragg? Fort Benning? Fort Hood? Multiple entrances. Thousands and thousands of directional signs. Thousands of buildings.
Not to mention all the paperwork that would have to be changed.

No. Not millions. More. And, don't forget the manhours involved in figuring it out. Probably, several very large military contracts.

We are not talking about one post. And, when they start researching, there are likely a lot of smaller installations, as well.

The military can use free labor during boot camp. Schools can't do that.

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The military can use free labor during boot camp. Schools can't do that.

That's not the way it works.

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Who's going to pay for the highway signs?
Those cost around $100K. There must surely be a lot of those, too. Will the feds pay for them? States?

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The military can use free labor during boot camp. Schools can't do that.

That's not the way it works.

If they can order you to clean toilets they can order you to climb up a ladder and swap out a sign. Somebody does have to pay for the sign, though.

[Anonymous]

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Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

Agree w both.

Reparations don’t necessarily have to be a cash payout. It could be investing in education and homeownership.

And black people shouldn’t be pushing for reparations - WHITE people should. White people were wrong and need to fix it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

Agree w both.

Reparations don’t necessarily have to be a cash payout. It could be investing in education and homeownership.

And black people shouldn’t be pushing for reparations - WHITE people should. White people were wrong and need to fix it.

Well reparations usually means money and plenty of people have said that's exactly what they want. You don't get to redefine the word just because you'd settle for something else.

Politics is not a 12-step group where we admit our faults and make amends. It's an ongoing negotiation for dividing up power and resources among various groups. If you don't advocate for what you want, nobody will give it to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

Agree w both.

Reparations don’t necessarily have to be a cash payout. It could be investing in education and homeownership.

And black people shouldn’t be pushing for reparations - WHITE people should. White people were wrong and need to fix it.

You act as if white people haven't done anything and black people have tried everything. That's simply wrong. Know your history.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

Agree w both.

Reparations don’t necessarily have to be a cash payout. It could be investing in education and homeownership.

And black people shouldn’t be pushing for reparations - WHITE people should. White people were wrong and need to fix it.

Well reparations usually means money and plenty of people have said that's exactly what they want. You don't get to redefine the word just because you'd settle for something else.

Politics is not a 12-step group where we admit our faults and make amends. It's an ongoing negotiation for dividing up power and resources among various groups. If you don't advocate for what you want, nobody will give it to you.

Here is a tip about negotiations, you overplay your hand, you end up with nothing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are

You do not have momentum, except for hard core activists. This lifelong Democrat does not support reparations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are

Uh ....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are

You do not have momentum, except for hard core activists. This lifelong Democrat does not support reparations.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are

Biden said he would study reparations, that's all. He's a good guy, but he won't stick his neck out that far for you. You haven't even convinced a majority of Democrats to support this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are

Biden said he would study reparations, that's all. He's a good guy, but he won't stick his neck out that far for you. You haven't even convinced a majority of Democrats to support this.

So, more of the same? A major movement will come to a stop because white Democrats are too fragile to put their money where their mouth is? I’m not surprised

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any sort of reparations is going to require a DNA test of each recipient.

So...is everyone on board with reparations in exchange for the government having a giant database of Black American DNA?

That is how it is going to play out if you really want to go there...

Liberals love big government control and are socialist by nature so yes they’re fine with it. That way they can increase their rate of concocting people of blood sins. Oh, your parents voted for Trump and you have the same DNA, off to the rice fields with you.

As I sad before, why do Asian people have to pay for this garbage? I’m not white, I didn’t own slaves and neither did my ancestors. If you really want reparations move to Europe and protest there. They started the slave trade and colonized Africa not the USA. I’m sure they’re more than willing to help, besides most of you want us to be more like Europe anyways so just move there. My family moved here to escape this kind of nonsense and here we have people trying to push socialist programs and complaining. Why do you think it’s owed to you?

By the same token, I’m white but first generation from Eastern Europe, which had nothing to do with slavery. Well, unless you count my people being enslaved by the Ottomans, in which case maybe I should go shove my hand in Erdogan’s face for reparations? Lol