Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?

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Any updates? Has she been spotted anywhere?

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Anonymous wrote:I also feel sympathy for the people who invested with them. They're the victims of financial fraud.

Same.

Separately I was surprised that Von Furstenburg offered to let her stay in the $10M Miami condo, apparently for free. It is a big gift, and all the living large caused the problems.

And I am surprised she accepted the free stay in the $10M Miami condo, as this is a significant gift from friends and it may also require other spending to keep up that lifestyle, all which contributed to the original problems.

I also think she could have tax implications for this if she’s the only one (with her kids) living in it. She should count the rental value of it as a gift.
She clearly wants to slide right back into the flashy Miami lifestyle she had when she was there during Covid. She’s still not putting the kids first. I give her 6 months until she’s dating someone wealthy. She should have moved in with her parents or sister for the school year and regrouped.

Pretty disgusting of her to make her children switch schools immediately after their father died. Change is so hard for little kids.

Riverdale the kids current school costs 66K a year.
Private school in Miami is closer to 35-45K

Still too expensive…

Have you ever heard of public school? It's free.

Property tax is not free.

When you buy a home you can actually afford, then you can pay the property tax needed to attend public school in your chosen area.

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She’s being sued AGAIN. Does she have any money rn? Like how does she live every day?

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2024/09/13/ues-condo-owner-sues-candice-miller-over-unpaid-rent/

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Anonymous wrote:She’s being sued AGAIN. Does she have any money rn? Like how does she live every day?

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2024/09/13/ues-condo-owner-sues-candice-miller-over-unpaid-rent/

I just watched Bad Vegan, and it seems like these attractive connected women just get away with it for the longest time, and get off easy when caught. It's sort of infuriating.

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Anonymous wrote:She’s being sued AGAIN. Does she have any money rn? Like how does she live every day?

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2024/09/13/ues-condo-owner-sues-candice-miller-over-unpaid-rent/

Doesn’t she have the life insurance payout by now?

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Anonymous wrote:She’s being sued AGAIN. Does she have any money rn? Like how does she live every day?

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2024/09/13/ues-condo-owner-sues-candice-miller-over-unpaid-rent/

Doesn’t she have the life insurance payout by now?

Probably, but there are massive debts in the millions that she’s on the hook for, plus lawyer fees, lawsuits piling up … it’s a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to give her some grace. He was probably very deceptive with her and she has to mourn her lover and the fact that he left her and the daughters to deal with this mess. There will be rights to her story sold, she’ll have to in order to pay the debts off. I do t now why women are so judgemental and mean to other women. This could happen to any of us albeit on a much much smaller scale for myself! Prayers those girls adjust to their new lives.

She was complicit. She knew.

We do not know that, what type of a sell job did her husband put her through? I suspect at the end of the day we’ll find she’s one of those that signed tax returns without reading them and rubber stamped anything put in front of her. If you look at pictures of her there’s a marked change in her appearance in may/June of this year. She looked fearful, that’s when she really understood what was going on. My bet is it was not her husband who told her the truth. No way she would have taken her children out of this country for an extended trip with credit cards maxed and 8,000 in the bank. She was blindly in love. Life lessons here people.

She would have known they had not been paying rent for months. She would have received notices. Yet she jetted off on the grand European luxury vacation.

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Anonymous wrote:She’s being sued AGAIN. Does she have any money rn? Like how does she live every day?

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2024/09/13/ues-condo-owner-sues-candice-miller-over-unpaid-rent/

Doesn’t she have the life insurance payout by now?

Probably, but there are massive debts in the millions that she’s on the hook for, plus lawyer fees, lawsuits piling up … it’s a lot.

She may not be personally liable. Depends on who signed those debt - him only? His company? A random LLC?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to give her some grace. He was probably very deceptive with her and she has to mourn her lover and the fact that he left her and the daughters to deal with this mess. There will be rights to her story sold, she’ll have to in order to pay the debts off. I do t now why women are so judgemental and mean to other women. This could happen to any of us albeit on a much much smaller scale for myself! Prayers those girls adjust to their new lives.

She was complicit. She knew.

We do not know that, what type of a sell job did her husband put her through? I suspect at the end of the day we’ll find she’s one of those that signed tax returns without reading them and rubber stamped anything put in front of her. If you look at pictures of her there’s a marked change in her appearance in may/June of this year. She looked fearful, that’s when she really understood what was going on. My bet is it was not her husband who told her the truth. No way she would have taken her children out of this country for an extended trip with credit cards maxed and 8,000 in the bank. She was blindly in love. Life lessons here people.

She would have known they had not been paying rent for months. She would have received notices. Yet she jetted off on the grand European luxury vacation.

Also she knew because last spring Ryan Nivakoff, the CEO of NJOY (and husband of her friend Libby) personally called her to tell her that her husband owed him and others a huge amount of money. He told her they were broke and didn’t even own their house anymore. And she still chose to take the luxury vacation.

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How does she pay her bills now? How does she buy food at Publix in Miami? How does she pay for gas and for her car? Does she have to pay gift tax on the free use of the luxury condo?

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Anonymous wrote:She’s being sued AGAIN. Does she have any money rn? Like how does she live every day?

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2024/09/13/ues-condo-owner-sues-candice-miller-over-unpaid-rent/

Doesn’t she have the life insurance payout by now?

Can the life insurance be attached by creditors?

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Anonymous wrote:How does she pay her bills now? How does she buy food at Publix in Miami? How does she pay for gas and for her car? Does she have to pay gift tax on the free use of the luxury condo?

Borrows money from other rich people. That's how rich grifters do it. It can keep going forever.

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Anonymous wrote:How does she pay her bills now? How does she buy food at Publix in Miami? How does she pay for gas and for her car? Does she have to pay gift tax on the free use of the luxury condo?

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Anonymous wrote:She’s being sued AGAIN. Does she have any money rn? Like how does she live every day?

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2024/09/13/ues-condo-owner-sues-candice-miller-over-unpaid-rent/

Doesn’t she have the life insurance payout by now?

Can the life insurance be attached by creditors?

Good chance that they would be exempt from her bankruptcy estate:

Are Life Insurance Proceeds Part of My Bankruptcy Estate?
Life insurance payments that you received before filing bankruptcy are part of your bankruptcy estate. The money is treated like any other money in your possession. It doesn’t matter that it came from life insurance. If you receive life insurance proceeds within the 180 days after you file bankruptcy, those proceeds are part of your bankruptcy estate as well. If you become entitled to life insurance proceeds more than 180 days after you file bankruptcy, the proceeds are not part of your bankruptcy estate.
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Under the Bankruptcy Code, the relevant date to determine whether proceeds are part of your estate is the date you become entitled to receive payment. This usually happens upon the insured’s death. If that date is before or within 180 days after the date you file bankruptcy, the insurance proceeds are part of your bankruptcy estate, regardless of when you receive the funds.
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Can I Claim Life Insurance Proceeds as Exempt?
Under the federal exemption laws, life insurance payments you receive as a beneficiary are fully exempt if they meet two criteria. First, the insured person must have been able to claim you as a dependent on the day they died. Second, the insurance payments must be reasonably necessary to support you and your dependents. What’s considered reasonably necessary is up to the bankruptcy judge. You may have to provide evidence of your living expenses or explain why the proceeds are necessary.

Some states have exemption laws that specifically protect life insurance proceeds.

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Anonymous wrote:How does she pay her bills now? How does she buy food at Publix in Miami? How does she pay for gas and for her car? Does she have to pay gift tax on the free use of the luxury condo?

These are the things I want to know!! And also … does she still have nannies and maids? Or does she actually have to watch her own kids and scrub her own toilets? The horror!