Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

[Anonymous]

This entire lawsuit is so absurd. I'm embarrassed for BL that she ever started it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This entire lawsuit is so absurd. I'm embarrassed for BL that she ever started it.

This wouldn’t be happening if Baldoni and Heath hadn’t engaged in problematic behavior, which Baldoni admitted to and apologized for.

Did Lively take that and run with it? Maybe. Alternatively, she may have come to see him (as I sort of do now) as a hypocrite who shouldn’t be in charge of a movie about a woman breaking free from a controlling man, especially if he wanted the male character to appear more sympathetic. (Like, remember how he saw himself in the character, and wanted to show the two leads climaxing simultaneously in this PG-13 film, because that’s what he and his wife did. Dude! The film is not about you and your wife or what a great lover Ryle is!).

But anyway, I think everything started with Baldoni’s behavior in the first place.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This entire lawsuit is so absurd. I'm embarrassed for BL that she ever started it.

This wouldn’t be happening if Baldoni and Heath hadn’t engaged in problematic behavior, which Baldoni admitted to and apologized for.

Did Lively take that and run with it? Maybe. Alternatively, she may have come to see him (as I sort of do now) as a hypocrite who shouldn’t be in charge of a movie about a woman breaking free from a controlling man, especially if he wanted the male character to appear more sympathetic. (Like, remember how he saw himself in the character, and wanted to show the two leads climaxing simultaneously in this PG-13 film, because that’s what he and his wife did. Dude! The film is not about you and your wife or what a great lover Ryle is!).

But anyway, I think everything started with Baldoni’s behavior in the first place.

What? He didn't apologize for any type of "problematic behavior," because there was none. He apologized because he didn't react well to Lively's rewrites of a scene. Stop trying to twist the narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:I've noticed various posters in this thread talking about public opinion or what "most people" think of this case. The consensus seems to be that Lively got a surge of public support right after the NYT article but by now most people are supporting Baldoni and think Lively's allegations are either overblown or flat out lies, and that she and Reynolds went after Baldoni's movie. This was also my read on the situation.

But then I saw this on r/Fauxmoi this weekend: https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1jgma56/justin_baldoni_sues_his_former_publicist/

Fauxmoi, for those who don't know, is one of the biggest celeb gossip subs on Reddit. It has 4.8m members. In contrast, the main Lively/Baldoni-specific sub I follow on Reddit, r/ItEndsWithLawsuits, is 13k members. I'm used to the comments in that thread being overwhelmingly pro-Baldoni with only a handful of neutral or pro-Blake people, and the pro-Blake comments tend to be voted down.

Well in the Fauxmoi post, that's not the case at all. The highest rated comments are, at a minimum, anti-Baldoni. Some are anti-everyone (a lot of people who are just like "I'm tired of all of these people"). But some of the highest rated comments are pro-Blake.

Like the first 4-5 highest rated comments are stuff like "Dude, give it a rest" (about Baldoni suing someone else) or "Can I sue Baldoni for being f***ing exhausting?" But then there's also this: "This guy is a hot mess express. And as much as I think Blake Lively is probably terrible, I believe her." With a ton of upvotes.

There are some people defending Baldoni, but their defense is tepid and generally in the comments to anti-Baldoni posts -- if there are pro-Baldoni posts, they are not being upvoted.

Given the size of FauxMoi and the fact that it's a general pop culture/celeb sub instead of one focused on this situation, I tend to think it's a better reflection of popular opinion on the matter. It seems to me that while people who are heavily invested in the situation tend to skew toward Baldoni (by a lot), people who have perhaps a healthier relationship to the matter (passing interest, not obsession) tend to be neutral, hate everyone, or dislike Baldoni specifically and believe Blake (even if they don't necessarily like her as a celeb).

lol, sure, Jan, not paid for this enormous waste of time poster.

Lol I’ll bite. This is a tiny community of people you’re talking about. 4.8 million members does not mean that there’s that much recent engagement. There’s really only a fraction of that engaging, and it sounds like they are even split with some Baldoni supporters.

What is way more telling is her brands have gone dark. IEWU was the best movie performance in terms of box office she has ever had, by a long run, and she has been unable to capitalize on it.

She wanted that movie to show the world she was ready and able to produce and direct like Scarlett and Anna are doing and it’s been 7 months and crickets.

You'd think someone had run a smear campaign against her or something!

If the smear campaign was that effective even after being exposed…I think she is done.

Do you really think the outcome of a trial a year from now is going to suddenly turn public opinion?

If she wins at trial? Yes. The people who are dug in will continue to support Baldoni, but I think the general public would accept that the results went in her favor. I think it will be very difficult for her to win, though.

I’m not sure I agree. if this actually goes to trial, it is going to be so, so messy and more embarrassing stuff is going to come out. Remember Johnny Depp “won”, but I mean is he really recovered in the public eye? He’s sort of a joke now….the whole, taking a dump on the bed, videos of him being so drunk, I mean, even if you believe the guy, I wouldn’t say people respect him like they did years ago.

It’s really hard to come out of trials like these looking good.

I don't think this will be as bad as the Depp case, for either party. In that case, both people had substance abuse problems, and the allegations involved physical violence. Baldoni/Lively is comparatively mild in terms of alleged behavior, on both sides.

It’s already pretty bad, and obviously worse for her because again she is the bigger star with more to lose.

I’m not sure if she’ll ever live down Khaleesi and her dragons.

I get it. Nobody’s crapping on the bed or slurring drunk, but nobody wants their personal texts revealed even if there’s nothing bad in there. Blake and Ryan have a public persona. Getting a behind the curtain look into it hasn’t been great for them so far. I can’t imagine it gets better.

We all have our public selves and our private selves and no celebrity wants any of it coming out that’s not very curated.

If nothing else, it’s going to be a lot of rehashing of the bad press that she got. A lot of those old interviews coming back and debating was Abel and Nathan involved etc. If it weren’t for this trial, the baby bump interview would be months in the past. And even if people still remembered it, it wouldn’t be continually being rehashed.

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Anonymous wrote:I've noticed various posters in this thread talking about public opinion or what "most people" think of this case. The consensus seems to be that Lively got a surge of public support right after the NYT article but by now most people are supporting Baldoni and think Lively's allegations are either overblown or flat out lies, and that she and Reynolds went after Baldoni's movie. This was also my read on the situation.

But then I saw this on r/Fauxmoi this weekend: https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1jgma56/justin_baldoni_sues_his_former_publicist/

Fauxmoi, for those who don't know, is one of the biggest celeb gossip subs on Reddit. It has 4.8m members. In contrast, the main Lively/Baldoni-specific sub I follow on Reddit, r/ItEndsWithLawsuits, is 13k members. I'm used to the comments in that thread being overwhelmingly pro-Baldoni with only a handful of neutral or pro-Blake people, and the pro-Blake comments tend to be voted down.

Well in the Fauxmoi post, that's not the case at all. The highest rated comments are, at a minimum, anti-Baldoni. Some are anti-everyone (a lot of people who are just like "I'm tired of all of these people"). But some of the highest rated comments are pro-Blake.

Like the first 4-5 highest rated comments are stuff like "Dude, give it a rest" (about Baldoni suing someone else) or "Can I sue Baldoni for being f***ing exhausting?" But then there's also this: "This guy is a hot mess express. And as much as I think Blake Lively is probably terrible, I believe her." With a ton of upvotes.

There are some people defending Baldoni, but their defense is tepid and generally in the comments to anti-Baldoni posts -- if there are pro-Baldoni posts, they are not being upvoted.

Given the size of FauxMoi and the fact that it's a general pop culture/celeb sub instead of one focused on this situation, I tend to think it's a better reflection of popular opinion on the matter. It seems to me that while people who are heavily invested in the situation tend to skew toward Baldoni (by a lot), people who have perhaps a healthier relationship to the matter (passing interest, not obsession) tend to be neutral, hate everyone, or dislike Baldoni specifically and believe Blake (even if they don't necessarily like her as a celeb).

lol, sure, Jan, not paid for this enormous waste of time poster.

Lol I’ll bite. This is a tiny community of people you’re talking about. 4.8 million members does not mean that there’s that much recent engagement. There’s really only a fraction of that engaging, and it sounds like they are even split with some Baldoni supporters.

What is way more telling is her brands have gone dark. IEWU was the best movie performance in terms of box office she has ever had, by a long run, and she has been unable to capitalize on it.

She wanted that movie to show the world she was ready and able to produce and direct like Scarlett and Anna are doing and it’s been 7 months and crickets.

You'd think someone had run a smear campaign against her or something!

If the smear campaign was that effective even after being exposed…I think she is done.

Do you really think the outcome of a trial a year from now is going to suddenly turn public opinion?

If she wins at trial? Yes. The people who are dug in will continue to support Baldoni, but I think the general public would accept that the results went in her favor. I think it will be very difficult for her to win, though.

I’m not sure I agree. if this actually goes to trial, it is going to be so, so messy and more embarrassing stuff is going to come out. Remember Johnny Depp “won”, but I mean is he really recovered in the public eye? He’s sort of a joke now….the whole, taking a dump on the bed, videos of him being so drunk, I mean, even if you believe the guy, I wouldn’t say people respect him like they did years ago.

It’s really hard to come out of trials like these looking good.

I don't think this will be as bad as the Depp case, for either party. In that case, both people had substance abuse problems, and the allegations involved physical violence. Baldoni/Lively is comparatively mild in terms of alleged behavior, on both sides.

It’s already pretty bad, and obviously worse for her because again she is the bigger star with more to lose.

I’m not sure if she’ll ever live down Khaleesi and her dragons.

I get it. Nobody’s crapping on the bed or slurring drunk, but nobody wants their personal texts revealed even if there’s nothing bad in there. Blake and Ryan have a public persona. Getting a behind the curtain look into it hasn’t been great for them so far. I can’t imagine it gets better.

We all have our public selves and our private selves and no celebrity wants any of it coming out that’s not very curated.

If nothing else, it’s going to be a lot of rehashing of the bad press that she got. A lot of those old interviews coming back and debating was Abel and Nathan involved etc. If it weren’t for this trial, the baby bump interview would be months in the past. And even if people still remembered it, it wouldn’t be continually being rehashed.

Maybe. But a lot of regular people just aren’t really following this and aren’t seeing the baby bump thing. Honestly I AM following the legal end of this and haven’t seen that video.

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Anonymous wrote:This entire lawsuit is so absurd. I'm embarrassed for BL that she ever started it.

This wouldn’t be happening if Baldoni and Heath hadn’t engaged in problematic behavior, which Baldoni admitted to and apologized for.

Did Lively take that and run with it? Maybe. Alternatively, she may have come to see him (as I sort of do now) as a hypocrite who shouldn’t be in charge of a movie about a woman breaking free from a controlling man, especially if he wanted the male character to appear more sympathetic. (Like, remember how he saw himself in the character, and wanted to show the two leads climaxing simultaneously in this PG-13 film, because that’s what he and his wife did. Dude! The film is not about you and your wife or what a great lover Ryle is!).

But anyway, I think everything started with Baldoni’s behavior in the first place.

What? He didn't apologize for any type of "problematic behavior," because there was none. He apologized because he didn't react well to Lively's rewrites of a scene. Stop trying to twist the narrative.

DP but he definitely apologized multiple times. He apologizes for asking the trainer about her weight, the dispute regarding the rooftop scene, and the "it's sexy comment."

What's funny is that I don't find the argument over the rooftop scene to be problematic -- he has no obligation to use her rewrite. But I do find his apology problematic -- that voice note he sent was super weird IMO and just deeply unprofessional. If I received a recorded message from someone I worked with that long, rambling, and personal, I would personally be weirded out regardless of what the apology was for.

I think the trainer situation is obviously problematic. In no universe is it reasonable or appropriate to ask someone's trainer for their weight. The trainer obviously agreed, as he immediately told Lively what had happened. It's bizarre Baldoni wouldn't understand what a crazy boundary violation that was.

The "it's sexy" thing I don't know what to think about. Her version makes it sound bad, his version makes it sound fine. I feel like for these more minor incidents regarding him saying stuff on set that allegedly made her uncomfortable, I am withholding judgment until there's info from other people on the set. It's definitely not a clearcut example of harassment, but I've worked with people who can make very benign comments sound like harassment (I once worked with an older male colleague who took an uncomfortable interest in me and stopped by my office all the time and would compliment my clothes and hair -- nothing overtly sexual but I felt incredibly uncomfortable). So I think that's a toss up.

But he apologized for all of them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've noticed various posters in this thread talking about public opinion or what "most people" think of this case. The consensus seems to be that Lively got a surge of public support right after the NYT article but by now most people are supporting Baldoni and think Lively's allegations are either overblown or flat out lies, and that she and Reynolds went after Baldoni's movie. This was also my read on the situation.

But then I saw this on r/Fauxmoi this weekend: https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1jgma56/justin_baldoni_sues_his_former_publicist/

Fauxmoi, for those who don't know, is one of the biggest celeb gossip subs on Reddit. It has 4.8m members. In contrast, the main Lively/Baldoni-specific sub I follow on Reddit, r/ItEndsWithLawsuits, is 13k members. I'm used to the comments in that thread being overwhelmingly pro-Baldoni with only a handful of neutral or pro-Blake people, and the pro-Blake comments tend to be voted down.

Well in the Fauxmoi post, that's not the case at all. The highest rated comments are, at a minimum, anti-Baldoni. Some are anti-everyone (a lot of people who are just like "I'm tired of all of these people"). But some of the highest rated comments are pro-Blake.

Like the first 4-5 highest rated comments are stuff like "Dude, give it a rest" (about Baldoni suing someone else) or "Can I sue Baldoni for being f***ing exhausting?" But then there's also this: "This guy is a hot mess express. And as much as I think Blake Lively is probably terrible, I believe her." With a ton of upvotes.

There are some people defending Baldoni, but their defense is tepid and generally in the comments to anti-Baldoni posts -- if there are pro-Baldoni posts, they are not being upvoted.

Given the size of FauxMoi and the fact that it's a general pop culture/celeb sub instead of one focused on this situation, I tend to think it's a better reflection of popular opinion on the matter. It seems to me that while people who are heavily invested in the situation tend to skew toward Baldoni (by a lot), people who have perhaps a healthier relationship to the matter (passing interest, not obsession) tend to be neutral, hate everyone, or dislike Baldoni specifically and believe Blake (even if they don't necessarily like her as a celeb).

That’s interesting and surprising to me. I don’t spend any time on other sites discussing this so my impression of what others thought was as you had described.

Award for most obvious sock puppet or tags team bots goes to. . .

There are at least two people in this thread who are basically pro-Lively, and sometimes we respond to one another. You may have noticed these posts in the thread because we are actually polite to one another. Those are actually the rules of DCUM, which you ignore.

I encourage you to check out recent comments in Website Feedback where Jeff notes he may close this thread. One way to avoid the thread closing would be to stop posting comments that openly insult other posters. Other people, even pro-Baldoni posters, have asked you repeatedly to stop posting insults.

I don’t think you’ll stop because I think you want the thread closed, as you said several pages ago, because the Lively support in here irks you. You’re actively trying to sabotage it.

(I’m just a DMV lawyer mom, not involved or connected to the case. As if lol!! I’ve been on DCUM several years and post on other parts of this board.)

You are annoying many people, I am not the poster from several days ago.

[Anonymous]

There’s a video circulating where RR talks about having their daughter say a very explicit line in Deadpool (I won’t repeat it b/c it’s too graphic). Apparently they had her rehearse it 70 to 500 times. He’s pretty disgusting. Between this and the Olivia Wilde stuff, he’s done much worse than JB ever could.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a video circulating where RR talks about having their daughter say a very explicit line in Deadpool (I won’t repeat it b/c it’s too graphic). Apparently they had her rehearse it 70 to 500 times. He’s pretty disgusting. Between this and the Olivia Wilde stuff, he’s done much worse than JB ever could.

If you think your kids aren’t swearing at school, you may just not know your kids well enough. It’s not the same as when we were kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This entire lawsuit is so absurd. I'm embarrassed for BL that she ever started it.

This wouldn’t be happening if Baldoni and Heath hadn’t engaged in problematic behavior, which Baldoni admitted to and apologized for.

Did Lively take that and run with it? Maybe. Alternatively, she may have come to see him (as I sort of do now) as a hypocrite who shouldn’t be in charge of a movie about a woman breaking free from a controlling man, especially if he wanted the male character to appear more sympathetic. (Like, remember how he saw himself in the character, and wanted to show the two leads climaxing simultaneously in this PG-13 film, because that’s what he and his wife did. Dude! The film is not about you and your wife or what a great lover Ryle is!).

But anyway, I think everything started with Baldoni’s behavior in the first place.

What? He didn't apologize for any type of "problematic behavior," because there was none. He apologized because he didn't react well to Lively's rewrites of a scene. Stop trying to twist the narrative.

DP but he definitely apologized multiple times. He apologizes for asking the trainer about her weight, the dispute regarding the rooftop scene, and the "it's sexy comment."

What's funny is that I don't find the argument over the rooftop scene to be problematic -- he has no obligation to use her rewrite. But I do find his apology problematic -- that voice note he sent was super weird IMO and just deeply unprofessional. If I received a recorded message from someone I worked with that long, rambling, and personal, I would personally be weirded out regardless of what the apology was for.

I think the trainer situation is obviously problematic. In no universe is it reasonable or appropriate to ask someone's trainer for their weight. The trainer obviously agreed, as he immediately told Lively what had happened. It's bizarre Baldoni wouldn't understand what a crazy boundary violation that was.

The "it's sexy" thing I don't know what to think about. Her version makes it sound bad, his version makes it sound fine. I feel like for these more minor incidents regarding him saying stuff on set that allegedly made her uncomfortable, I am withholding judgment until there's info from other people on the set. It's definitely not a clearcut example of harassment, but I've worked with people who can make very benign comments sound like harassment (I once worked with an older male colleague who took an uncomfortable interest in me and stopped by my office all the time and would compliment my clothes and hair -- nothing overtly sexual but I felt incredibly uncomfortable). So I think that's a toss up.

But he apologized for all of them.

He is very apologetic- seems really obvious he didn’t quite know how to act around her when she’s clearly smitten with him. Her Flirty, sexual innuendo, novel length texts are embarrassing, and I’m sure she humiliated that they are out there for the world to see.

Ryan’s obsession with Justin and being on set…. He got home from his Deadpool shoot, saw the dailies, and flipped his sh!t. he is enraged with jealousy and so controlling of Blake decided to go around town, saying Justin was a predator lol.

It’s been seven months, and not one woman has stepped forward to say that she’s had a bad experience with Justin. Not one. Let that sink in. And not because they are afraid of him, he’s not that powerful, and Ryan and Blake are the most powerful couple in Hollywood to have their legal resources and team to protect you, women would be coming out in droves. Do we really just made it 41 years not harassing anyone, and then decides to do his celebrity A-list actor, who is one of the most powerful women in Hollywood? It doesn’t add up.

The most they could do was that LA Times article about his toxic positivity lol. Well, we don’t find any evidence of sexual harassment, but the dude is really positive lol. What a joke. If they had a smoking gun, we’d see it by now. The public sees through it and this is why they’re in this mess.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a video circulating where RR talks about having their daughter say a very explicit line in Deadpool (I won’t repeat it b/c it’s too graphic). Apparently they had her rehearse it 70 to 500 times. He’s pretty disgusting. Between this and the Olivia Wilde stuff, he’s done much worse than JB ever could.

If you think your kids aren’t swearing at school, you may just not know your kids well enough. It’s not the same as when we were kids.

Clearly, there is a difference between swearing at school, and then actively spending a half an hour coaching your daughter on swear words. It’s sick and he’s disgusting.

[Anonymous]

“That hurt my feelings.”
“I’m sorry.”

This tells us nothing of “guilt.” Humans are taught to respond to subjective statements about feelings with an apology for the other person’s experience.

“You backed into my car.”
“I’m sorry; I didn’t see you there.”
That’s more an admission of guilt because it’s about a factual thing that happened, and we have clear rules about who’s at fault in these situations.

These two things are not the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a video circulating where RR talks about having their daughter say a very explicit line in Deadpool (I won’t repeat it b/c it’s too graphic). Apparently they had her rehearse it 70 to 500 times. He’s pretty disgusting. Between this and the Olivia Wilde stuff, he’s done much worse than JB ever could.

If you think your kids aren’t swearing at school, you may just not know your kids well enough. It’s not the same as when we were kids.

Clearly, there is a difference between swearing at school, and then actively spending a half an hour coaching your daughter on swear words. It’s sick and he’s disgusting.

It’s also much more than swearing. You’ll have to find the video because I’m not repeating it here. That’s how disgusting it was what he had her say.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This entire lawsuit is so absurd. I'm embarrassed for BL that she ever started it.

This wouldn’t be happening if Baldoni and Heath hadn’t engaged in problematic behavior, which Baldoni admitted to and apologized for.

Did Lively take that and run with it? Maybe. Alternatively, she may have come to see him (as I sort of do now) as a hypocrite who shouldn’t be in charge of a movie about a woman breaking free from a controlling man, especially if he wanted the male character to appear more sympathetic. (Like, remember how he saw himself in the character, and wanted to show the two leads climaxing simultaneously in this PG-13 film, because that’s what he and his wife did. Dude! The film is not about you and your wife or what a great lover Ryle is!).

But anyway, I think everything started with Baldoni’s behavior in the first place.

What? He didn't apologize for any type of "problematic behavior," because there was none. He apologized because he didn't react well to Lively's rewrites of a scene. Stop trying to twist the narrative.

DP but he definitely apologized multiple times. He apologizes for asking the trainer about her weight, the dispute regarding the rooftop scene, and the "it's sexy comment."

What's funny is that I don't find the argument over the rooftop scene to be problematic -- he has no obligation to use her rewrite. But I do find his apology problematic -- that voice note he sent was super weird IMO and just deeply unprofessional. If I received a recorded message from someone I worked with that long, rambling, and personal, I would personally be weirded out regardless of what the apology was for.

I think the trainer situation is obviously problematic. In no universe is it reasonable or appropriate to ask someone's trainer for their weight. The trainer obviously agreed, as he immediately told Lively what had happened. It's bizarre Baldoni wouldn't understand what a crazy boundary violation that was.

The "it's sexy" thing I don't know what to think about. Her version makes it sound bad, his version makes it sound fine. I feel like for these more minor incidents regarding him saying stuff on set that allegedly made her uncomfortable, I am withholding judgment until there's info from other people on the set. It's definitely not a clearcut example of harassment, but I've worked with people who can make very benign comments sound like harassment (I once worked with an older male colleague who took an uncomfortable interest in me and stopped by my office all the time and would compliment my clothes and hair -- nothing overtly sexual but I felt incredibly uncomfortable). So I think that's a toss up.

But he apologized for all of them.

He is very apologetic- seems really obvious he didn’t quite know how to act around her when she’s clearly smitten with him. Her Flirty, sexual innuendo, novel length texts are embarrassing, and I’m sure she humiliated that they are out there for the world to see.

Ryan’s obsession with Justin and being on set…. He got home from his Deadpool shoot, saw the dailies, and flipped his sh!t. he is enraged with jealousy and so controlling of Blake decided to go around town, saying Justin was a predator lol.

It’s been seven months, and not one woman has stepped forward to say that she’s had a bad experience with Justin. Not one. Let that sink in. And not because they are afraid of him, he’s not that powerful, and Ryan and Blake are the most powerful couple in Hollywood to have their legal resources and team to protect you, women would be coming out in droves. Do we really just made it 41 years not harassing anyone, and then decides to do his celebrity A-list actor, who is one of the most powerful women in Hollywood? It doesn’t add up.

The most they could do was that LA Times article about his toxic positivity lol. Well, we don’t find any evidence of sexual harassment, but the dude is really positive lol. What a joke. If they had a smoking gun, we’d see it by now. The public sees through it and this is why they’re in this mess.

I’d agree with this. Even the dance scene looks like a guy on a date with a girl who seems nervous dancing with the cute guy and he seems like he just wants her to shut up and dance so they can finish the scene. Like when she said something about Ryan and he said that’s cute, and she said I think it’s more than cute, and he’s like oh yeah definitely, you can see how annoyed he is and just trying to be professional and get through the scene.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“That hurt my feelings.”
“I’m sorry.”

This tells us nothing of “guilt.” Humans are taught to respond to subjective statements about feelings with an apology for the other person’s experience.

“You backed into my car.”
“I’m sorry; I didn’t see you there.”
That’s more an admission of guilt because it’s about a factual thing that happened, and we have clear rules about who’s at fault in these situations.

These two things are not the same.

While I agree, I think Baldoni wants it both ways. He did apologize a lot. Some of the stuff he apologized for, I think merited an apology. Asking the trainer for Blake's weight very much so -- that was, at best, a super weird and invasive thing to do. The "sexy" comment is trickier, and could very much have been miscommunication, but when you phrase things badly or use the wrong tone, that's something you should be accountable for. But other places he was apologizing when he should have been firmly setting boundaries -- saying sorry they might not use the scene she wrote, or sorry she couldn't see the dailies, when actually what he meant was "no". And was in strong position to say no, as the director and with the backing if the studio. Instead he'd apologize.

And now he wants to portray it all as just apologies to placate a strong willed or pushy person. But that's not accurate. Baldoni has always used apologies as a weapon against criticism. His entire make feminist schtick us premises in him saying "I'm so sorry I screwed up in the past, now I get it." Blake didn't force him to apologize. Apologies are his whole thing. It's just that he's used to it working and it didn't with Blake, who saw through it.