Fcps - NNAT

[Anonymous]

Did you have your kid do any prep for the NNAT?

[Anonymous]

No

[Anonymous]

No

Nor did they prep for the CogAt, or the Iowa Algebra test.

Yes,they prepped for SOLS, SATs and APs and all tests in their classes.

[Anonymous]

There's nothing wrong with showing your kid the concept of what the NNAT is. There is a difference between (1) "prepping" a kid with weekend classes on the NNAT (or regular sessions at home) and (2) showing your kid what the idea of the questions is.

[Anonymous]

The school will show them the concept of the test. The above poster is wrong and if she did that, she prepped. Nothing needed...and I'm not sure pepping helps that much or else wouldn't less people be upset their kids werent admitted?

[Anonymous]

The school will tell you to "prep" your child by ensuring that (s)he gets a good night's sleep and a good breakfast beforehand. Technically speaking, anything beyond that at least somewhat invalidates the exam, as it is normed for children who haven't practiced these types of questions.

The schools have no way to prevent people from prepping, and test results are tied pretty strongly to receiving a better educational experience, so it's hardly surprising that so many people prep.

[Anonymous]

I would prep your child by telling them to look at all the answer choices and not rush. I didn’t do that with my child and the score reflected the rushing. Fast forward a year later where I told my child to take his time on the cigar and voila 20 point increase.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The school will show them the concept of the test. The above poster is wrong and if she did that, she prepped. Nothing needed...and I'm not sure pepping helps that much or else wouldn't less people be upset their kids werent admitted?

If prepping doesn't help "that much" (and I agree that it doesn't), then what's the problem? You can't have it both ways (i.e. prepping doesn't help AND it's not fair to prep).

I don't believe in spending money to send kids to NNAT prep classes. But, I did show my kids a book of mind puzzles similar to the NNAT so that they could get the idea. I don't think it changed their score much, but it did give them the comfort to understand what the idea of it was. Even if you've seen the idea of it (i.e. you turn the figure), if a kid isn't analytical, they won't "get" the analogies the test is looking for. Previewing the test lowers test anxiety. If I show my kid a book of brain puzzles (that are similar to the NNAT), how is that any more "wrong" than a family that just likes to do puzzles for weekend family times? I think those things are fine, and frankly, should be encouraged!

Those activities are very different from signing a kid up for NNAT test prep classes, spending several hundred dollars and giving the kid the impression that this is a very important test and creating a pressure environment. I doubt that you can't turn a kid who is a 100 (not up to AAP) into a 145 (definitely capable of AAP work) on the NNAT. But, you probably can get them 5-10 extra points by teaching them how to think through. That's why it is good that the committee looks at more than one data point.

[Anonymous]

typo...

I doubt that you can turn a kid who is a 100 (not up to AAP) into a 145 (definitely capable of AAP work) on the NNAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would prep your child by telling them to look at all the answer choices and not rush. I didn’t do that with my child and the score reflected the rushing. Fast forward a year later where I told my child to take his time on the cigar and voila 20 point increase.

Because my DC did a lot better on cogat and wisc, I wondered if my kid was messing around on the NNAT bc it was the first computer test DC had taken. I'm hoping the iReady actually helps my younger ones just with the format of taking a computer test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school will show them the concept of the test. The above poster is wrong and if she did that, she prepped. Nothing needed...and I'm not sure pepping helps that much or else wouldn't less people be upset their kids werent admitted?

If prepping doesn't help "that much" (and I agree that it doesn't), then what's the problem? You can't have it both ways (i.e. prepping doesn't help AND it's not fair to prep).

I don't believe in spending money to send kids to NNAT prep classes. But, I did show my kids a book of mind puzzles similar to the NNAT so that they could get the idea. I don't think it changed their score much, but it did give them the comfort to understand what the idea of it was. Even if you've seen the idea of it (i.e. you turn the figure), if a kid isn't analytical, they won't "get" the analogies the test is looking for. Previewing the test lowers test anxiety. If I show my kid a book of brain puzzles (that are similar to the NNAT), how is that any more "wrong" than a family that just likes to do puzzles for weekend family times? I think those things are fine, and frankly, should be encouraged!

Those activities are very different from signing a kid up for NNAT test prep classes, spending several hundred dollars and giving the kid the impression that this is a very important test and creating a pressure environment. I doubt that you can't turn a kid who is a 100 (not up to AAP) into a 145 (definitely capable of AAP work) on the NNAT. But, you probably can get them 5-10 extra points by teaching them how to think through. That's why it is good that the committee looks at more than one data point.

I can have it both ways. The rules say don't prep (per our principal, directly to parents at the AAP info meetings). Prepping won't help that much, is my GUESS. So yes, you can definitely have it as you are saying. You don't want to hear it b/c you prepped your kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:typo...

I doubt that you can turn a kid who is a 100 (not up to AAP) into a 145 (definitely capable of AAP work) on the NNAT.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would prep your child by telling them to look at all the answer choices and not rush. I didn’t do that with my child and the score reflected the rushing. Fast forward a year later where I told my child to take his time on the cigar and voila 20 point increase.

Because my DC did a lot better on cogat and wisc, I wondered if my kid was messing around on the NNAT bc it was the first computer test DC had taken. I'm hoping the iReady actually helps my younger ones just with the format of taking a computer test.

Or it could be your child evolved(smarter/discipline/focused/knowledgeable etc.) in 2nd grade. All FCPS student gets same exposure to computer in school starting from kindergarten.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school will show them the concept of the test. The above poster is wrong and if she did that, she prepped. Nothing needed...and I'm not sure pepping helps that much or else wouldn't less people be upset their kids werent admitted?

If prepping doesn't help "that much" (and I agree that it doesn't), then what's the problem? You can't have it both ways (i.e. prepping doesn't help AND it's not fair to prep).

I don't believe in spending money to send kids to NNAT prep classes. But, I did show my kids a book of mind puzzles similar to the NNAT so that they could get the idea. I don't think it changed their score much, but it did give them the comfort to understand what the idea of it was. Even if you've seen the idea of it (i.e. you turn the figure), if a kid isn't analytical, they won't "get" the analogies the test is looking for. Previewing the test lowers test anxiety. If I show my kid a book of brain puzzles (that are similar to the NNAT), how is that any more "wrong" than a family that just likes to do puzzles for weekend family times? I think those things are fine, and frankly, should be encouraged!

Those activities are very different from signing a kid up for NNAT test prep classes, spending several hundred dollars and giving the kid the impression that this is a very important test and creating a pressure environment. I doubt that you can't turn a kid who is a 100 (not up to AAP) into a 145 (definitely capable of AAP work) on the NNAT. But, you probably can get them 5-10 extra points by teaching them how to think through. That's why it is good that the committee looks at more than one data point.

I can have it both ways. The rules say don't prep (per our principal, directly to parents at the AAP info meetings). Prepping won't help that much, is my GUESS. So yes, you can definitely have it as you are saying. You don't want to hear it b/c you prepped your kid.

depends how you define "prepped" -- showed a book -- yep! Paid for classes? No.

You keep equating the two as equal. They are not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school will show them the concept of the test. The above poster is wrong and if she did that, she prepped. Nothing needed...and I'm not sure pepping helps that much or else wouldn't less people be upset their kids werent admitted?

If prepping doesn't help "that much" (and I agree that it doesn't), then what's the problem? You can't have it both ways (i.e. prepping doesn't help AND it's not fair to prep).

I don't believe in spending money to send kids to NNAT prep classes. But, I did show my kids a book of mind puzzles similar to the NNAT so that they could get the idea. I don't think it changed their score much, but it did give them the comfort to understand what the idea of it was. Even if you've seen the idea of it (i.e. you turn the figure), if a kid isn't analytical, they won't "get" the analogies the test is looking for. Previewing the test lowers test anxiety. If I show my kid a book of brain puzzles (that are similar to the NNAT), how is that any more "wrong" than a family that just likes to do puzzles for weekend family times? I think those things are fine, and frankly, should be encouraged!

Those activities are very different from signing a kid up for NNAT test prep classes, spending several hundred dollars and giving the kid the impression that this is a very important test and creating a pressure environment. I doubt that you can't turn a kid who is a 100 (not up to AAP) into a 145 (definitely capable of AAP work) on the NNAT. But, you probably can get them 5-10 extra points by teaching them how to think through. That's why it is good that the committee looks at more than one data point.

I can have it both ways. The rules say don't prep (per our principal, directly to parents at the AAP info meetings). Prepping won't help that much, is my GUESS. So yes, you can definitely have it as you are saying. You don't want to hear it b/c you prepped your kid.

We prep our child everyday for anything that is related grades/admission Human intelligence increases with knowledge. I agree with earlier poster if child is in 100 there is very rare chance that child will get 145 or 160. If that child gets 145+ then its good because this prep classes helped him tapped into his real potential/intelligence! Isn't that all of us want for our children?