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Was speaking with DC's GC last week and she seemed to insinuate that somehow Columbia and Penn are better ivies than Brown, Dartmouth and Cornell. Maybe I find this ludicrous bc I am a Dartmouth grad, but I have always been under the impression that people think of all the ivies outside of HYP as roughly the same. Or at least all of the non-HYP ivies other than Cornell are seen as roughly the same. Is this accurate or is the GC's perception more accurate?
Just curious about what people think nowadays, I know this has no practical significance whatsoever. |
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| OP....get a life. |
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Yes. they have different personalities. Which ones are better suited for your child? If they're afraid of their own shadow, they're not going to do well in Manhattan. If they love the city, forget Dartmouth and Cornell.
These are silly questions. |
Guarantee you didn't go to Columbia. And Dartmouth and Cornell are full of kids raised in big cities who love cities, yet manage to also love D and C. I'll never understand moms who feel the need to talk out of their ass and perpetuate baseless and dumb internet posts on colleges they nor their husband (nor any other family or close friends) attended. |
Please just stop. The arguments about which Ivy is better than another are tiring, preumptuous and a case study in splitting hairs. |
| Total troll post. |
Actually I thought pp made a decent effort to address OP’s troll. My kid went to Columbia, I went to Penn and I have other family members at Cornell and Dartmouth. I agree city kids can do great in the countryside and vice versa. But the point about all these schools having different personalities, and how that should drive the decision rather than perceptions of “prestige” from a bunch of random DCUM posters, is spot on. |
PS. I’ll never understand the impulse to trash other posters when you disagree about something. And go wash out your mouth. (Also, “they” talk out of their “asses” unless they share a single “ass”.) |
Wow, are there actually families like this, where everyone goes to an Ivy League school? Is it something that’s expected or just a happy coincidence? |
| Your GC is stupid. |
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Columbia and UPenn tend to rank higher in most rankings and have stronger departments, which is why your GC might be saying that. But does this mean they are better (what does that even mean?) or more prestigious colleges? Hardly.
The ONLY objective difference in prestige is between H vs the rest and HYP vs non-HYP. Parsing any further differences among the lower ivies is just a desperate attempt by certain insecure boosters to elevate their school. |
| After HYP, i think everything else is both a crap shoot and based on what the kid wants. I would never, for example, think, "Oh, they went to xx Ivy because they didn't get into xx Ivy"...or if that were the case, I wouldn't interpret it as one being better than the other. It really is such a crap shoot in the decisions process. I would regard all of them as about the same. |
I would think that when looking at HYP vs the others. Lets be real. Most kids at the other ivies wanted to go to HYP and either applied ED to a lower ivy to maximize their chances so they didn't even apply to HYP or just applied and didn't get in. But I would never think for example that a Brown kid definitely didn't make it to Columbia. |
Yes, that's why I said "After HYP". At that point, who knows why one accepts and the other doesn't. |