Is there a difference between Columbia,Penn and Dartmouth,Brown,Cornell ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was speaking with DC's GC last week and she seemed to insinuate that somehow Columbia and Penn are better ivies than Brown, Dartmouth and Cornell.

Please just stop. The arguments about which Ivy is better than another are tiring, preumptuous and a case study in splitting hairs.

+1000,

[Anonymous]

In terms of prestige the order now clearly is as follows:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Dartmouth
Cornell

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In terms of prestige the order now clearly is as follows:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Dartmouth
Cornell

I would switch Brown and Dartmouth but otherwise agree. All are great schools however.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In terms of prestige the order now clearly is as follows:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Dartmouth
Cornell

I would switch Brown and Dartmouth but otherwise agree. All are great schools however.

Parchment has 70% of dual admits going with Brown. The admissions rate at Brown is also lower than at Dartmouth, which receives substantially fewer applications than any other Ivy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In terms of prestige the order now clearly is as follows.
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Dartmouth
Cornell

Most probably you are right, but just a simple ordering doesn't show the full picture. I would argue:

1.Harvard

(small gap)

2.Yale
3.Princeton

(big gap)

4.Columbia
5.Penn

(small gap)

6.Brown
6.Dartmouth (tie imo)
8.Cornell

[Anonymous]

Penn arts & sciences is not better than Brown and Dartmouth. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

You message board helicopter moms are brainwashed by marketing and assertive message board boosters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Penn arts & sciences is not better than Brown and Dartmouth. Sorry.

lol it definitely is sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Penn arts & sciences is not better than Brown and Dartmouth. Sorry.

Wharton is better than everything other than HYP but the rest of Pen is still better than Brown and Dartmouth. Brown and Dartmouth are bottom ivies, only marginally better than Cornell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In terms of prestige the order now clearly is as follows:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Dartmouth
Cornell

I would switch Brown and Dartmouth but otherwise agree. All are great schools however.

Parchment has 70% of dual admits going with Brown. The admissions rate at Brown is also lower than at Dartmouth, which receives substantially fewer applications than any other Ivy.

Parchment data is a joke.
You’re not that sharp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn arts & sciences is not better than Brown and Dartmouth. Sorry.

Wharton is better than everything other than HYP but the rest of Pen is still better than Brown and Dartmouth. Brown and Dartmouth are bottom ivies, only marginally better than Cornell.

Show us proof Penn A&S grads are more successful than Brown and Dartmouth.

[Anonymous]

Yale Law School Undergraduate Representation

Brown: 13

Dartmouth: 16

UPenn: 9 (class size 2x bigger than B and D)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In terms of prestige the order now clearly is as follows:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Dartmouth
Cornell

I would switch Brown and Dartmouth but otherwise agree. All are great schools however.

Parchment has 70% of dual admits going with Brown. The admissions rate at Brown is also lower than at Dartmouth, which receives substantially fewer applications than any other Ivy.

Parchment data is a joke.
You’re not that sharp.

It's a data point. What do you have to offer that would suggest Dartmouth is on par with Brown?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn arts & sciences is not better than Brown and Dartmouth. Sorry.

Wharton is better than everything other than HYP but the rest of Pen is still better than Brown and Dartmouth. Brown and Dartmouth are bottom ivies, only marginally better than Cornell.

Show us proof Penn A&S grads are more successful than Brown and Dartmouth.

Penn A&S (and Penn in general) has stronger departments and more renowned faculty than Brown and Dartmouth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yale Law School Undergraduate Representation

Brown: 13
Dartmouth: 16
UPenn: 9 (class size 2x bigger than B and D)

Any links to that? It is pointless measure anyway, there are other schools and fields were Penn does better.

Top 10 Medical school representation (you need to go on the respective websites and compare):
Penn: 44 out of 177 matriculants
Brown: 27 out of 123 matriculants

Top feeders to HSW b-schools (students in class of 2013):
Penn: ~132 students
Dartmouth: ~53 students
Brown: ~39 students

In any case, Penn performs better in practically every ranking out there, it has overall stronger departments, more renowned faculty, stronger research output, higher RD yield rate, and according to the CDS documents Penn admits have a bit higher SATs/ACTs and GPAs/ranks than Brown and Dartmouth admits.