ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:This thread should give everyone full confidence that the poor youth soccer culture in this country won't be improving anytime soon.


Neurotic parents focused on the wrong things and don't care enough to learn the right things.
Just want to have a say and be heard



You're not even close but I guess that's an easy anecdote. The reality is you need to hate the game, not the players (or their parents). I didn't create this insane web of alphabet soup clubs nor the competitive structure we play in. I didn't create the best path to college recruiting, it was laid long before I got here. My daughter has a dream of playing college soccer. She's a very good 2013, playing up on NPL and Im figuring out what to do for next year. She trapped and its silly she doesn't have the option to play with her classmates but again, this is the game I was given. I'm not asking for change (somebody has to be impacted by RAE and my kid is good enough to overcome it) but if change is coming it's ideally this year. I'd hate for her to go ECNL and fall in love with a team for one season, only to switch everything around. My concern isn't making a team, its being on a top 10 national team and seeing it fall apart when we reshuffle.

Call me neurotic if its easier for you. Im doing what I can to learn this system and help my kid in every way possible for her future. I'd love a simpler, more easy going system but apprentely thats not an option in my area.


Meaning being a Helicopter and Snowplow parent.

All she has to do is focus on her individual development.
The rest is noise.

No college coach or scout cares about her team ranking, only about her performance.


No need to worry if your child is on a top 10 national team. Any reshuffle (especially a slight age change by a few months only) will not change anything for teams at that level so he or she should definitely not be concerned about that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread should give everyone full confidence that the poor youth soccer culture in this country won't be improving anytime soon.


Neurotic parents focused on the wrong things and don't care enough to learn the right things.
Just want to have a say and be heard


You're not even close but I guess that's an easy anecdote. The reality is you need to hate the game, not the players (or their parents). I didn't create this insane web of alphabet soup clubs nor the competitive structure we play in. I didn't create the best path to college recruiting, it was laid long before I got here. My daughter has a dream of playing college soccer. She's a very good 2013, playing up on NPL and Im figuring out what to do for next year. She trapped and its silly she doesn't have the option to play with her classmates but again, this is the game I was given. I'm not asking for change (somebody has to be impacted by RAE and my kid is good enough to overcome it) but if change is coming it's ideally this year. I'd hate for her to go ECNL and fall in love with a team for one season, only to switch everything around. My concern isn't making a team, its being on a top 10 national team and seeing it fall apart when we reshuffle.

Call me neurotic if its easier for you. Im doing what I can to learn this system and help my kid in every way possible for her future. I'd love a simpler, more easy going system but apprentely thats not an option in my area.


No need to worry if your child is on a top 10 national team. Any reshuffle (especially a slight age change by a few months only) will not change anything for teams at that level so he or she should definitely not be concerned about that.
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Anonymous wrote:The top youth league for boys is hosting a tournament in California right now with the attention and focus of top tier colleges, USYS and USYNT

This is 456 pages of gibberish
Huh? The Generation Adidas Cup isn't until April.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread should give everyone full confidence that the poor youth soccer culture in this country won't be improving anytime soon.


Neurotic parents focused on the wrong things and don't care enough to learn the right things.
Just want to have a say and be heard


You're not even close but I guess that's an easy anecdote. The reality is you need to hate the game, not the players (or their parents). I didn't create this insane web of alphabet soup clubs nor the competitive structure we play in. I didn't create the best path to college recruiting, it was laid long before I got here. My daughter has a dream of playing college soccer. She's a very good 2013, playing up on NPL and Im figuring out what to do for next year. She trapped and its silly she doesn't have the option to play with her classmates but again, this is the game I was given. I'm not asking for change (somebody has to be impacted by RAE and my kid is good enough to overcome it) but if change is coming it's ideally this year. I'd hate for her to go ECNL and fall in love with a team for one season, only to switch everything around. My concern isn't making a team, its being on a top 10 national team and seeing it fall apart when we reshuffle.

Call me neurotic if its easier for you. Im doing what I can to learn this system and help my kid in every way possible for her future. I'd love a simpler, more easy going system but apprentely thats not an option in my area.


No need to worry if your child is on a top 10 national team. Any reshuffle (especially a slight age change by a few months only) will not change anything for teams at that level so he or she should definitely not be concerned about that.


I'm not worried at all. My daughter will end up where she should. But the dirty secret here is that putting her on a team with 2014's is gift. She'll then be playing with a top 10 national club AND she'll be one of the best in that age bracket, which comes with exposure opportunities and invites she wouldn't have otherwise. Again, didn't request the gift but not going to turn it down either.

Lots of discussion on here about 'don't worry, your kid will make the team if they are good enough'. Trapped players at high level aren't concerned with making the team. They are worried about being first team regionals vs second team. They are worried about power 5 schools coming by their showcase vs lower level D1. When you get to that level and know how things work its a different experience to be on the team vs best in a competitive region.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread should give everyone full confidence that the poor youth soccer culture in this country won't be improving anytime soon.


Neurotic parents focused on the wrong things and don't care enough to learn the right things.
Just want to have a say and be heard


You're not even close but I guess that's an easy anecdote. The reality is you need to hate the game, not the players (or their parents). I didn't create this insane web of alphabet soup clubs nor the competitive structure we play in. I didn't create the best path to college recruiting, it was laid long before I got here. My daughter has a dream of playing college soccer. She's a very good 2013, playing up on NPL and Im figuring out what to do for next year. She trapped and its silly she doesn't have the option to play with her classmates but again, this is the game I was given. I'm not asking for change (somebody has to be impacted by RAE and my kid is good enough to overcome it) but if change is coming it's ideally this year. I'd hate for her to go ECNL and fall in love with a team for one season, only to switch everything around. My concern isn't making a team, its being on a top 10 national team and seeing it fall apart when we reshuffle.

Call me neurotic if its easier for you. Im doing what I can to learn this system and help my kid in every way possible for her future. I'd love a simpler, more easy going system but apprentely thats not an option in my area.


Meaning being a Helicopter and Snowplow parent.

All she has to do is focus on her individual development.
The rest is noise.

No college coach or scout cares about her team ranking, only about her performance.


lol. Your kid must be playing rec league. Just dropping a kid off at practice at letting things take their course? Are you really that naive? Team rankings don't matter? This is the ECNL thread right? Or did I slip into the AYSO discussion?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread should give everyone full confidence that the poor youth soccer culture in this country won't be improving anytime soon.


Neurotic parents focused on the wrong things and don't care enough to learn the right things.
Just want to have a say and be heard


You're not even close but I guess that's an easy anecdote. The reality is you need to hate the game, not the players (or their parents). I didn't create this insane web of alphabet soup clubs nor the competitive structure we play in. I didn't create the best path to college recruiting, it was laid long before I got here. My daughter has a dream of playing college soccer. She's a very good 2013, playing up on NPL and Im figuring out what to do for next year. She trapped and its silly she doesn't have the option to play with her classmates but again, this is the game I was given. I'm not asking for change (somebody has to be impacted by RAE and my kid is good enough to overcome it) but if change is coming it's ideally this year. I'd hate for her to go ECNL and fall in love with a team for one season, only to switch everything around. My concern isn't making a team, its being on a top 10 national team and seeing it fall apart when we reshuffle.

Call me neurotic if its easier for you. Im doing what I can to learn this system and help my kid in every way possible for her future. I'd love a simpler, more easy going system but apprentely thats not an option in my area.


No need to worry if your child is on a top 10 national team. Any reshuffle (especially a slight age change by a few months only) will not change anything for teams at that level so he or she should definitely not be concerned about that.


I'm not worried at all. My daughter will end up where she should. But the dirty secret here is that putting her on a team with 2014's is gift. She'll then be playing with a top 10 national club AND she'll be one of the best in that age bracket, which comes with exposure opportunities and invites she wouldn't have otherwise. Again, didn't request the gift but not going to turn it down either.

Lots of discussion on here about 'don't worry, your kid will make the team if they are good enough'. Trapped players at high level aren't concerned with making the team. They are worried about being first team regionals vs second team. They are worried about power 5 schools coming by their showcase vs lower level D1. When you get to that level and know how things work its a different experience to be on the team vs best in a competitive region.


Confused. Thought you were talking about a top 10 national team - not regional level teams. If its a top 10 national team that isn’t a concern.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread should give everyone full confidence that the poor youth soccer culture in this country won't be improving anytime soon.


Neurotic parents focused on the wrong things and don't care enough to learn the right things.
Just want to have a say and be heard


You're not even close but I guess that's an easy anecdote. The reality is you need to hate the game, not the players (or their parents). I didn't create this insane web of alphabet soup clubs nor the competitive structure we play in. I didn't create the best path to college recruiting, it was laid long before I got here. My daughter has a dream of playing college soccer. She's a very good 2013, playing up on NPL and Im figuring out what to do for next year. She trapped and its silly she doesn't have the option to play with her classmates but again, this is the game I was given. I'm not asking for change (somebody has to be impacted by RAE and my kid is good enough to overcome it) but if change is coming it's ideally this year. I'd hate for her to go ECNL and fall in love with a team for one season, only to switch everything around. My concern isn't making a team, its being on a top 10 national team and seeing it fall apart when we reshuffle.

Call me neurotic if its easier for you. Im doing what I can to learn this system and help my kid in every way possible for her future. I'd love a simpler, more easy going system but apprentely thats not an option in my area.


Meaning being a Helicopter and Snowplow parent.

All she has to do is focus on her individual development.
The rest is noise.

No college coach or scout cares about her team ranking, only about her performance.


lol. Your kid must be playing rec league. Just dropping a kid off at practice at letting things take their course? Are you really that naive? Team rankings don't matter? This is the ECNL thread right? Or did I slip into the AYSO discussion?
Local coaches and clubs like to spit the PP stuff out because nobody wants oversight and to be called out for their weaknesses.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread should give everyone full confidence that the poor youth soccer culture in this country won't be improving anytime soon.


Neurotic parents focused on the wrong things and don't care enough to learn the right things.
Just want to have a say and be heard


You're not even close but I guess that's an easy anecdote. The reality is you need to hate the game, not the players (or their parents). I didn't create this insane web of alphabet soup clubs nor the competitive structure we play in. I didn't create the best path to college recruiting, it was laid long before I got here. My daughter has a dream of playing college soccer. She's a very good 2013, playing up on NPL and Im figuring out what to do for next year. She trapped and its silly she doesn't have the option to play with her classmates but again, this is the game I was given. I'm not asking for change (somebody has to be impacted by RAE and my kid is good enough to overcome it) but if change is coming it's ideally this year. I'd hate for her to go ECNL and fall in love with a team for one season, only to switch everything around. My concern isn't making a team, its being on a top 10 national team and seeing it fall apart when we reshuffle.

Call me neurotic if its easier for you. Im doing what I can to learn this system and help my kid in every way possible for her future. I'd love a simpler, more easy going system but apprentely thats not an option in my area.


No need to worry if your child is on a top 10 national team. Any reshuffle (especially a slight age change by a few months only) will not change anything for teams at that level so he or she should definitely not be concerned about that.


I'm not worried at all. My daughter will end up where she should. But the dirty secret here is that putting her on a team with 2014's is gift. She'll then be playing with a top 10 national club AND she'll be one of the best in that age bracket, which comes with exposure opportunities and invites she wouldn't have otherwise. Again, didn't request the gift but not going to turn it down either.

Lots of discussion on here about 'don't worry, your kid will make the team if they are good enough'. Trapped players at high level aren't concerned with making the team. They are worried about being first team regionals vs second team. They are worried about power 5 schools coming by their showcase vs lower level D1. When you get to that level and know how things work its a different experience to be on the team vs best in a competitive region.


Confused. Thought you were talking about a top 10 national team - not regional level teams. If its a top 10 national team that isn’t a concern.


You definitely ARE confused so I'll help you out.

First off you need to get out of rec league and join ECNL. That's just the beginning...in ECNL there are rankings. Just because you're on a top ten team doesn't mean you play. Just because you play, doesn't mean you are top 5 on a team. Just being on a top 10 team isn't some magic bullet for anything. Doesn't mean your automatically making the national team. Doesn't mean you're automatically getting recruited and definitely doesn't mean you're going power 5 or getting a scholarship. There are levels on top of levels so stop assuming what you want is what everyone wants.

You don't care about trapped players because you're have limited goals. My daughter will get on a team. What the move to SY means is she's not only on a team, she's likely now the best on the team. What does that mean? Things you probably never heard of. All conference, national selection, select team, national camps...do some research. Maybe what a concern is for you isn't what my daughter is thinking about at all. If your kids dream is to make a top team and you can, great. Have fun. Some of us are impacted far beyond making the team or getting playing time and we'd like to get with the team we'll play with through HS and not wait 2 years to get settled.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread should give everyone full confidence that the poor youth soccer culture in this country won't be improving anytime soon.


Neurotic parents focused on the wrong things and don't care enough to learn the right things.
Just want to have a say and be heard


You're not even close but I guess that's an easy anecdote. The reality is you need to hate the game, not the players (or their parents). I didn't create this insane web of alphabet soup clubs nor the competitive structure we play in. I didn't create the best path to college recruiting, it was laid long before I got here. My daughter has a dream of playing college soccer. She's a very good 2013, playing up on NPL and Im figuring out what to do for next year. She trapped and its silly she doesn't have the option to play with her classmates but again, this is the game I was given. I'm not asking for change (somebody has to be impacted by RAE and my kid is good enough to overcome it) but if change is coming it's ideally this year. I'd hate for her to go ECNL and fall in love with a team for one season, only to switch everything around. My concern isn't making a team, its being on a top 10 national team and seeing it fall apart when we reshuffle.

Call me neurotic if its easier for you. Im doing what I can to learn this system and help my kid in every way possible for her future. I'd love a simpler, more easy going system but apprentely thats not an option in my area.


No need to worry if your child is on a top 10 national team. Any reshuffle (especially a slight age change by a few months only) will not change anything for teams at that level so he or she should definitely not be concerned about that.


I'm not worried at all. My daughter will end up where she should. But the dirty secret here is that putting her on a team with 2014's is gift. She'll then be playing with a top 10 national club AND she'll be one of the best in that age bracket, which comes with exposure opportunities and invites she wouldn't have otherwise. Again, didn't request the gift but not going to turn it down either.

Lots of discussion on here about 'don't worry, your kid will make the team if they are good enough'. Trapped players at high level aren't concerned with making the team. They are worried about being first team regionals vs second team. They are worried about power 5 schools coming by their showcase vs lower level D1. When you get to that level and know how things work its a different experience to be on the team vs best in a competitive region.


Confused. Thought you were talking about a top 10 national team - not regional level teams. If its a top 10 national team that isn’t a concern.


You definitely ARE confused so I'll help you out.

First off you need to get out of rec league and join ECNL. That's just the beginning...in ECNL there are rankings. Just because you're on a top ten team doesn't mean you play. Just because you play, doesn't mean you are top 5 on a team. Just being on a top 10 team isn't some magic bullet for anything. Doesn't mean your automatically making the national team. Doesn't mean you're automatically getting recruited and definitely doesn't mean you're going power 5 or getting a scholarship. There are levels on top of levels so stop assuming what you want is what everyone wants.

You don't care about trapped players because you're have limited goals. My daughter will get on a team. What the move to SY means is she's not only on a team, she's likely now the best on the team. What does that mean? Things you probably never heard of. All conference, national selection, select team, national camps...do some research. Maybe what a concern is for you isn't what my daughter is thinking about at all. If your kids dream is to make a top team and you can, great. Have fun. Some of us are impacted far beyond making the team or getting playing time and we'd like to get with the team we'll play with through HS and not wait 2 years to get settled.


Not sure if what you said is true or not, but you definitely have a middle-life crisis.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread should give everyone full confidence that the poor youth soccer culture in this country won't be improving anytime soon.


Neurotic parents focused on the wrong things and don't care enough to learn the right things.
Just want to have a say and be heard


You're not even close but I guess that's an easy anecdote. The reality is you need to hate the game, not the players (or their parents). I didn't create this insane web of alphabet soup clubs nor the competitive structure we play in. I didn't create the best path to college recruiting, it was laid long before I got here. My daughter has a dream of playing college soccer. She's a very good 2013, playing up on NPL and Im figuring out what to do for next year. She trapped and its silly she doesn't have the option to play with her classmates but again, this is the game I was given. I'm not asking for change (somebody has to be impacted by RAE and my kid is good enough to overcome it) but if change is coming it's ideally this year. I'd hate for her to go ECNL and fall in love with a team for one season, only to switch everything around. My concern isn't making a team, its being on a top 10 national team and seeing it fall apart when we reshuffle.

Call me neurotic if its easier for you. Im doing what I can to learn this system and help my kid in every way possible for her future. I'd love a simpler, more easy going system but apprentely thats not an option in my area.


No need to worry if your child is on a top 10 national team. Any reshuffle (especially a slight age change by a few months only) will not change anything for teams at that level so he or she should definitely not be concerned about that.


I'm not worried at all. My daughter will end up where she should. But the dirty secret here is that putting her on a team with 2014's is gift. She'll then be playing with a top 10 national club AND she'll be one of the best in that age bracket, which comes with exposure opportunities and invites she wouldn't have otherwise. Again, didn't request the gift but not going to turn it down either.

Lots of discussion on here about 'don't worry, your kid will make the team if they are good enough'. Trapped players at high level aren't concerned with making the team. They are worried about being first team regionals vs second team. They are worried about power 5 schools coming by their showcase vs lower level D1. When you get to that level and know how things work its a different experience to be on the team vs best in a competitive region.


I love how people are talking about top 10 teams at 10-11 years old. I also understand for most of you this might be your first time through this kind of high level sport with your fist kiddo, but trust me, the top players on the team now will 90% of the time not be the top players after growth and puberty set in. The “bigger, more developed, early bloomer” usually wreak the rewards until everyone else catches up and things even out come sophomore year. So I would be planning you 11 year old daughters future out completely just yet lol!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread should give everyone full confidence that the poor youth soccer culture in this country won't be improving anytime soon.


Neurotic parents focused on the wrong things and don't care enough to learn the right things.
Just want to have a say and be heard


You're not even close but I guess that's an easy anecdote. The reality is you need to hate the game, not the players (or their parents). I didn't create this insane web of alphabet soup clubs nor the competitive structure we play in. I didn't create the best path to college recruiting, it was laid long before I got here. My daughter has a dream of playing college soccer. She's a very good 2013, playing up on NPL and Im figuring out what to do for next year. She trapped and its silly she doesn't have the option to play with her classmates but again, this is the game I was given. I'm not asking for change (somebody has to be impacted by RAE and my kid is good enough to overcome it) but if change is coming it's ideally this year. I'd hate for her to go ECNL and fall in love with a team for one season, only to switch everything around. My concern isn't making a team, its being on a top 10 national team and seeing it fall apart when we reshuffle.

Call me neurotic if its easier for you. Im doing what I can to learn this system and help my kid in every way possible for her future. I'd love a simpler, more easy going system but apprentely thats not an option in my area.


No need to worry if your child is on a top 10 national team. Any reshuffle (especially a slight age change by a few months only) will not change anything for teams at that level so he or she should definitely not be concerned about that.


I'm not worried at all. My daughter will end up where she should. But the dirty secret here is that putting her on a team with 2014's is gift. She'll then be playing with a top 10 national club AND she'll be one of the best in that age bracket, which comes with exposure opportunities and invites she wouldn't have otherwise. Again, didn't request the gift but not going to turn it down either.

Lots of discussion on here about 'don't worry, your kid will make the team if they are good enough'. Trapped players at high level aren't concerned with making the team. They are worried about being first team regionals vs second team. They are worried about power 5 schools coming by their showcase vs lower level D1. When you get to that level and know how things work its a different experience to be on the team vs best in a competitive region.


I love how people are talking about top 10 teams at 10-11 years old. I also understand for most of you this might be your first time through this kind of high level sport with your fist kiddo, but trust me, the top players on the team now will 90% of the time not be the top players after growth and puberty set in. The “bigger, more developed, early bloomer” usually wreak the rewards until everyone else catches up and things even out come sophomore year. So I would be planning you 11 year old daughters future out completely just yet lol!


I can’t wait for the reality of the next few years to come crashing down on psycho dad PP. The number of parents who think their kid is headed for superstardom before puberty… only to find themselves wondering how it all changed so quickly.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread should give everyone full confidence that the poor youth soccer culture in this country won't be improving anytime soon.


Neurotic parents focused on the wrong things and don't care enough to learn the right things.
Just want to have a say and be heard


You're not even close but I guess that's an easy anecdote. The reality is you need to hate the game, not the players (or their parents). I didn't create this insane web of alphabet soup clubs nor the competitive structure we play in. I didn't create the best path to college recruiting, it was laid long before I got here. My daughter has a dream of playing college soccer. She's a very good 2013, playing up on NPL and Im figuring out what to do for next year. She trapped and its silly she doesn't have the option to play with her classmates but again, this is the game I was given. I'm not asking for change (somebody has to be impacted by RAE and my kid is good enough to overcome it) but if change is coming it's ideally this year. I'd hate for her to go ECNL and fall in love with a team for one season, only to switch everything around. My concern isn't making a team, its being on a top 10 national team and seeing it fall apart when we reshuffle.

Call me neurotic if its easier for you. Im doing what I can to learn this system and help my kid in every way possible for her future. I'd love a simpler, more easy going system but apprentely thats not an option in my area.


No need to worry if your child is on a top 10 national team. Any reshuffle (especially a slight age change by a few months only) will not change anything for teams at that level so he or she should definitely not be concerned about that.


I'm not worried at all. My daughter will end up where she should. But the dirty secret here is that putting her on a team with 2014's is gift. She'll then be playing with a top 10 national club AND she'll be one of the best in that age bracket, which comes with exposure opportunities and invites she wouldn't have otherwise. Again, didn't request the gift but not going to turn it down either.

Lots of discussion on here about 'don't worry, your kid will make the team if they are good enough'. Trapped players at high level aren't concerned with making the team. They are worried about being first team regionals vs second team. They are worried about power 5 schools coming by their showcase vs lower level D1. When you get to that level and know how things work its a different experience to be on the team vs best in a competitive region.


You are 100% corr3ct unfortunately there's a bunch of B team parents who think SY is their ticket to the A team. It's not, and once they figure it out they'll move onto the next excuse.
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Anonymous wrote:This thread should give everyone full confidence that the poor youth soccer culture in this country won't be improving anytime soon.


Neurotic parents focused on the wrong things and don't care enough to learn the right things.
Just want to have a say and be heard


You're not even close but I guess that's an easy anecdote. The reality is you need to hate the game, not the players (or their parents). I didn't create this insane web of alphabet soup clubs nor the competitive structure we play in. I didn't create the best path to college recruiting, it was laid long before I got here. My daughter has a dream of playing college soccer. She's a very good 2013, playing up on NPL and Im figuring out what to do for next year. She trapped and its silly she doesn't have the option to play with her classmates but again, this is the game I was given. I'm not asking for change (somebody has to be impacted by RAE and my kid is good enough to overcome it) but if change is coming it's ideally this year. I'd hate for her to go ECNL and fall in love with a team for one season, only to switch everything around. My concern isn't making a team, its being on a top 10 national team and seeing it fall apart when we reshuffle.

Call me neurotic if its easier for you. Im doing what I can to learn this system and help my kid in every way possible for her future. I'd love a simpler, more easy going system but apprentely thats not an option in my area.


No need to worry if your child is on a top 10 national team. Any reshuffle (especially a slight age change by a few months only) will not change anything for teams at that level so he or she should definitely not be concerned about that.


I'm not worried at all. My daughter will end up where she should. But the dirty secret here is that putting her on a team with 2014's is gift. She'll then be playing with a top 10 national club AND she'll be one of the best in that age bracket, which comes with exposure opportunities and invites she wouldn't have otherwise. Again, didn't request the gift but not going to turn it down either.

Lots of discussion on here about 'don't worry, your kid will make the team if they are good enough'. Trapped players at high level aren't concerned with making the team. They are worried about being first team regionals vs second team. They are worried about power 5 schools coming by their showcase vs lower level D1. When you get to that level and know how things work its a different experience to be on the team vs best in a competitive region.


Confused. Thought you were talking about a top 10 national team - not regional level teams. If its a top 10 national team that isn’t a concern.


You definitely ARE confused so I'll help you out.

First off you need to get out of rec league and join ECNL. That's just the beginning...in ECNL there are rankings. Just because you're on a top ten team doesn't mean you play. Just because you play, doesn't mean you are top 5 on a team. Just being on a top 10 team isn't some magic bullet for anything. Doesn't mean your automatically making the national team. Doesn't mean you're automatically getting recruited and definitely doesn't mean you're going power 5 or getting a scholarship. There are levels on top of levels so stop assuming what you want is what everyone wants.

You don't care about trapped players because you're have limited goals. My daughter will get on a team. What the move to SY means is she's not only on a team, she's likely now the best on the team. What does that mean? Things you probably never heard of. All conference, national selection, select team, national camps...do some research. Maybe what a concern is for you isn't what my daughter is thinking about at all. If your kids dream is to make a top team and you can, great. Have fun. Some of us are impacted far beyond making the team or getting playing time and we'd like to get with the team we'll play with through HS and not wait 2 years to get settled.


Not sure if what you said is true or not, but you definitely have a middle-life crisis.


Lol. If only you understood how elite level soccer for girls works in this country. You don't just show up to rec league and run fast, then UNC comes knocking on your door. Trust me I get the insanity of it all. But if your daughter wants to go Power 5 and you think you're going to act above it all and just encourage to have fun and hope for the best you're delusional. I didn't make these rules and if you have no interest in learning, good luck!
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Neurotic parents focused on the wrong things and don't care enough to learn the right things.
Just want to have a say and be heard


You're not even close but I guess that's an easy anecdote. The reality is you need to hate the game, not the players (or their parents). I didn't create this insane web of alphabet soup clubs nor the competitive structure we play in. I didn't create the best path to college recruiting, it was laid long before I got here. My daughter has a dream of playing college soccer. She's a very good 2013, playing up on NPL and Im figuring out what to do for next year. She trapped and its silly she doesn't have the option to play with her classmates but again, this is the game I was given. I'm not asking for change (somebody has to be impacted by RAE and my kid is good enough to overcome it) but if change is coming it's ideally this year. I'd hate for her to go ECNL and fall in love with a team for one season, only to switch everything around. My concern isn't making a team, its being on a top 10 national team and seeing it fall apart when we reshuffle.

Call me neurotic if its easier for you. Im doing what I can to learn this system and help my kid in every way possible for her future. I'd love a simpler, more easy going system but apprentely thats not an option in my area.


No need to worry if your child is on a top 10 national team. Any reshuffle (especially a slight age change by a few months only) will not change anything for teams at that level so he or she should definitely not be concerned about that.


I'm not worried at all. My daughter will end up where she should. But the dirty secret here is that putting her on a team with 2014's is gift. She'll then be playing with a top 10 national club AND she'll be one of the best in that age bracket, which comes with exposure opportunities and invites she wouldn't have otherwise. Again, didn't request the gift but not going to turn it down either.

Lots of discussion on here about 'don't worry, your kid will make the team if they are good enough'. Trapped players at high level aren't concerned with making the team. They are worried about being first team regionals vs second team. They are worried about power 5 schools coming by their showcase vs lower level D1. When you get to that level and know how things work its a different experience to be on the team vs best in a competitive region.


You are 100% corr3ct unfortunately there's a bunch of B team parents who think SY is their ticket to the A team. It's not, and once they figure it out they'll move onto the next excuse.


I'm curious why most ppl care? Is it simply ego? If you aren't pushing to make the national team or play college ball for one of the top universities in the country then none of this matters. Keep little Suzy or Tommy out there kicking the ball and having fun with great teammates and coaches that double as mentors. If you're kid is in 8th grade and not already being chased by college coaches then at best you're looking at D2 schools and maybe low level D1's. All of which are on the table for a few more years so chill out. If your kid was one of the best in the country you'd know it by now I promise you. Outside the best of the best there are 20,000 other opportunities to play college soccer.
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