Kate's New Picture

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Anonymous wrote:What if there is nothing going on with Kate and this was all just a master scheme by BP to distract us from the real story about m Charles’s illness? The number of discussions about his health pales dramatically to the Where’s Kate drama.

Even if Kate comes out and tells us all about an illness/surgery, I’ll never quite believe them because they’ve shown us how they are willing to lie and twist the narrative. Their credibility is lost forever.

No one seemed to care about Charles. He seems to be one of the most disliked royals.

Maybe because he cheated on the mother of his children from the start of their marriage, until she became so mentally ill and emotionally unstable she begged for a divorce from a man she trusted and loved? And ended up dead?

Imagine letting your mistress take your fiancée to lunch? Imagine finding a letter from your soon to be husband’s mistress on your bed the night before your wedding, in your room at your soon to be husband’s home?

Charles and Camilla are manipulative people who felt entitled to destroy Diana. Imagine how they treat people?

Charlse

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Anonymous wrote:It feels like they are moving the timeline for her return? What has been stated for a while was "Easter" which if she attended a church service (Luke she did at Christmas) would be March 31.
Now it sounds like they are talking about releasing a photo for George's birthday, and returning to public duties after kids return to school after Easter break, and those aren't until mid April.

No, they said from the beginning "after Easter." Louis's birthday in April would be totally in keeping with their it final timeline.

I think one mistake they made early, which they may now be attempting to correct, is that they were intentionally very vague-- regarding her illness, her recovery, her condition, etc. From the start they stated that this was for her privacy, which is understandable. But I think knowing her immense popularity, the better approach would have been to be much more specific about a limited number of things. Like without disclosing her illness, they could have very specifically said "the princess will be solely focused on her health and her family during this time, and will not be making appearances even by photograph or video during this time" and "while the exact date of her recovery cannot be known it will not be until April at the earliest." Providing firm, clear language would have made people talk, yes, but it also would have stamped out a lot of the speculation. So many people are expecting her to rise like you-know-who on Easter morning and when it doesn't happen, even though they never said it would, it's going to give rise to ANOTHER round of speculation.

They created this controversy even before the release of that idiotic photo and the lies about it's provenance, by playing coy with a public and press that have a clearly demonstrated appetite for photos of the princess. They needed to be more clear and declarative from the getgo. It would have shaken people up at first but been better in the long run.

I hope this is a lesson learned. This is why transparency is useful. Lots of organizations need to learn this.

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Anonymous wrote:What if there is nothing going on with Kate and this was all just a master scheme by BP to distract us from the real story about m Charles’s illness? The number of discussions about his health pales dramatically to the Where’s Kate drama.

Even if Kate comes out and tells us all about an illness/surgery, I’ll never quite believe them because they’ve shown us how they are willing to lie and twist the narrative. Their credibility is lost forever.

No one seemed to care about Charles. He seems to be one of the most disliked royals.

Maybe because he cheated on the mother of his children from the start of their marriage, until she became so mentally ill and emotionally unstable she begged for a divorce from a man she trusted and loved? And ended up dead?

Imagine letting your mistress take your fiancée to lunch? Imagine finding a letter from your soon to be husband’s mistress on your bed the night before your wedding, in your room at your soon to be husband’s home?

Charles and Camilla are manipulative people who felt entitled to destroy Diana. Imagine how they treat people?

Charlse

All of the above. Additionally, I’ll never forget he wanted to be Camilla’s tampon. The absolute hell.

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Anonymous wrote:One theory I have regarding the photoshopping and Kate's confession, which I find so odd because there's just no way she was totally rogue in that:

I wonder if the photoshopping occurred due to pressure from Kate (and possibly William), or out of a sense of trying to protect Kate. But in any case I wonder if it was internally clear that the press office decisions around its release were driven by intentions to protect the princess, and if then W&C were unwilling to publicly lay the blame with the press office if it seemed like a well-intentioned screw up, and that's why Kate shouldered the blame. If they'd revealed the press office was involved (which they must have been because there was an announcement to the rota that a photo was coming and a palace spokesman went if record regarding the photos date/location/photographer), there would be pressure to fire someone, and perhaps the details of the situation would have made this feel unjust.

I know this is a very generous read, but I'm trying to understand why someone who is recovering from surgery and clearly not running press operations would be left to shoulder all the blame, without resorting to wild speculation about divorce or affairs (which also might be true, I don't know, but some of that speculation sounds so soap opera-y to me).

If they said the press office was involved, the doctored photo would look like spin/manipulation. If they say it was Kate, recovering from surgery but earnestly trying to make people happy by sharing the best possible photo, it looks forgivable.

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Anonymous wrote:One theory I have regarding the photoshopping and Kate's confession, which I find so odd because there's just no way she was totally rogue in that:

I wonder if the photoshopping occurred due to pressure from Kate (and possibly William), or out of a sense of trying to protect Kate. But in any case I wonder if it was internally clear that the press office decisions around its release were driven by intentions to protect the princess, and if then W&C were unwilling to publicly lay the blame with the press office if it seemed like a well-intentioned screw up, and that's why Kate shouldered the blame. If they'd revealed the press office was involved (which they must have been because there was an announcement to the rota that a photo was coming and a palace spokesman went if record regarding the photos date/location/photographer), there would be pressure to fire someone, and perhaps the details of the situation would have made this feel unjust.

I know this is a very generous read, but I'm trying to understand why someone who is recovering from surgery and clearly not running press operations would be left to shoulder all the blame, without resorting to wild speculation about divorce or affairs (which also might be true, I don't know, but some of that speculation sounds so soap opera-y to me).

I have always thought this. She and William are notoriously protective of staff.

Makes sense to me. W&K can recover from divorce and affair rumors, they have been swirling around them from the start and they just keep on moving A staffer may not recover as easily, it would also be bad optics for W& K to blame it on staff even if it were true.

If they are protecting staff, I doubt it's for noble reasons seeing as how they all throw their family members under the bus whenever useful. They don't want to give staff reason to leak against them, I'm sure.

True. If they fired the staffer responsible, they'd just find a way to leak what's really going on, even if they signed an NDA.

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Anonymous wrote:What if there is nothing going on with Kate and this was all just a master scheme by BP to distract us from the real story about m Charles’s illness? The number of discussions about his health pales dramatically to the Where’s Kate drama.

Even if Kate comes out and tells us all about an illness/surgery, I’ll never quite believe them because they’ve shown us how they are willing to lie and twist the narrative. Their credibility is lost forever.

No one seemed to care about Charles. He seems to be one of the most disliked royals.

Maybe because he cheated on the mother of his children from the start of their marriage, until she became so mentally ill and emotionally unstable she begged for a divorce from a man she trusted and loved? And ended up dead?

Imagine letting your mistress take your fiancée to lunch? Imagine finding a letter from your soon to be husband’s mistress on your bed the night before your wedding, in your room at your soon to be husband’s home?

Charles and Camilla are manipulative people who felt entitled to destroy Diana. Imagine how they treat people?

Charlse

All of the above. Additionally, I’ll never forget he wanted to be Camilla’s tampon. The absolute hell.

Imagine Diana’s horror and humiliation? Imagine William and Harry learning about these horrible things? It was reported both boys were bullied at their schools with these and other terrible details. urgh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One theory I have regarding the photoshopping and Kate's confession, which I find so odd because there's just no way she was totally rogue in that:

I wonder if the photoshopping occurred due to pressure from Kate (and possibly William), or out of a sense of trying to protect Kate. But in any case I wonder if it was internally clear that the press office decisions around its release were driven by intentions to protect the princess, and if then W&C were unwilling to publicly lay the blame with the press office if it seemed like a well-intentioned screw up, and that's why Kate shouldered the blame. If they'd revealed the press office was involved (which they must have been because there was an announcement to the rota that a photo was coming and a palace spokesman went if record regarding the photos date/location/photographer), there would be pressure to fire someone, and perhaps the details of the situation would have made this feel unjust.

I know this is a very generous read, but I'm trying to understand why someone who is recovering from surgery and clearly not running press operations would be left to shoulder all the blame, without resorting to wild speculation about divorce or affairs (which also might be true, I don't know, but some of that speculation sounds so soap opera-y to me).

If they said the press office was involved, the doctored photo would look like spin/manipulation. If they say it was Kate, recovering from surgery but earnestly trying to make people happy by sharing the best possible photo, it looks forgivable.

I believe on the flip side it makes her appear rather neurotic due to the extent of the edits. Which depending on their intent, is questionable for who that would benefit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What if there is nothing going on with Kate and this was all just a master scheme by BP to distract us from the real story about m Charles’s illness? The number of discussions about his health pales dramatically to the Where’s Kate drama.

Even if Kate comes out and tells us all about an illness/surgery, I’ll never quite believe them because they’ve shown us how they are willing to lie and twist the narrative. Their credibility is lost forever.

People aren't speculating about Charles because he said the word "prostate" and then the word "cancer" and people are impressed that he was forthcoming about the first being embarrassing and the second being something his mother hid from the public. The type of cancer isn't as important because it doesn't really matter, in the great scheme of things, if William inherits sooner rather than later. Charles also made a few video appearances opening get-well cards and meeting the prime minister. It seems people appreciate Charles has given them this much.

Kate's pic (if it was hers) put the whole story about abdominal surgery into question, because if that pic was fake news, then what else are they hiding?

[Anonymous]

The tabloids are eating this up. This is why the royal family will be with us for quite some time. It's a love/hate relationship. But given this level of interest, their future seems pretty secure.

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Anonymous wrote:What if there is nothing going on with Kate and this was all just a master scheme by BP to distract us from the real story about m Charles’s illness? The number of discussions about his health pales dramatically to the Where’s Kate drama.

Even if Kate comes out and tells us all about an illness/surgery, I’ll never quite believe them because they’ve shown us how they are willing to lie and twist the narrative. Their credibility is lost forever.

No one seemed to care about Charles. He seems to be one of the most disliked royals.

Maybe because he cheated on the mother of his children from the start of their marriage, until she became so mentally ill and emotionally unstable she begged for a divorce from a man she trusted and loved? And ended up dead?

Imagine letting your mistress take your fiancée to lunch? Imagine finding a letter from your soon to be husband’s mistress on your bed the night before your wedding, in your room at your soon to be husband’s home?

Charles and Camilla are manipulative people who felt entitled to destroy Diana. Imagine how they treat people?

Charlse

All of the above. Additionally, I’ll never forget he wanted to be Camilla’s tampon. The absolute hell.

Imagine Diana’s horror and humiliation? Imagine William and Harry learning about these horrible things? It was reported both boys were bullied at their schools with these and other terrible details. urgh.

The boys strongly resented Charles and Charles says his biggest regret is making the boys walk behind their mothers casket and not pushing back against the palace about it to protect them .

Rumor has it Charles was always closer to Camillas kids than his own kids even now as adults. It’s telling William didn’t go see his dad in the hospital.

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Anonymous wrote:I like Kate. She’s a human being probably going through some stuff. How about we give her a break?

She’s been nothing but dutiful and lovely to everyone she encounters. I hope she knows so many people absolutely adore her.

^ Princess Powderpuff Posse

^ bully

The PP simply said something kind about KM. Why are you so nasty?

DP. I think pp’s problem is that the fawning pp doesn’t actually know Kate and has only consumed the puff pieces put out by the Daily Mail and its ilk. The phrasing was a bit cringe too.

DP. Oh, please. There was no “fawning,” merely kind words for someone who is going through a lot. This thread full of ridiculous disaster scenarios is what’s “cringe”.

How do you even presume to have any idea what she’s “going through” or that it’s “a lot”? It could be an event of her own creation, it could be something she wanted, and she may even be happy about it behind closed doors. To her, it may not be “a lot”. You have no idea.

Another DP here. I presume those things because I believe in news and reality and am not a conspiracy theorist, generally speaking. Anything is theoretically possible--we might be living in a simulation, the Moon landing could have been faked, etc.--but small theoretically possibilities don't crowd out what we can generally agree is fact.

But the only news we have is puff pieces in the Daily Mail about what Kate wore to cut which ribbon last year, a simple statement in January, and a heavily doctored picture masquerading as news about her health/location/having the kids nearby.

You can't know anything as fact, or presume anything at all. One camp here presumes the Kate puff pieces are true. Another camp here wonders about the massive photoshop screwup and where William has been. Nobody knows, that's the entire point.

A statement about someone undergoing an abdominal surgery requiring a two-week hospital stay and extensive recovery time isn’t a puff piece. So I feel completely comfortable saying she’s going through a lot right now. I don’t think that means people can’t speculate about what is going on more precisely , but to say that we don’t know that she’s going through a lot right now is saying that the palace could be lying about having surgery. That’s bordering on conspiracy theorism.

You don't get it. People accepted that statement until KP released that awful photo and until William disappeared from his duties.

They undercut their own story by creating mystery around it. If people can't trust KP to release an authentic photo, why should they trust KP on other things?

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Anonymous wrote:I like Kate. She’s a human being probably going through some stuff. How about we give her a break?

She’s been nothing but dutiful and lovely to everyone she encounters. I hope she knows so many people absolutely adore her.

^ Princess Powderpuff Posse

^ bully

The PP simply said something kind about KM. Why are you so nasty?

DP. I think pp’s problem is that the fawning pp doesn’t actually know Kate and has only consumed the puff pieces put out by the Daily Mail and its ilk. The phrasing was a bit cringe too.

DP. Oh, please. There was no “fawning,” merely kind words for someone who is going through a lot. This thread full of ridiculous disaster scenarios is what’s “cringe”.

How do you even presume to have any idea what she’s “going through” or that it’s “a lot”? It could be an event of her own creation, it could be something she wanted, and she may even be happy about it behind closed doors. To her, it may not be “a lot”. You have no idea.

Another DP here. I presume those things because I believe in news and reality and am not a conspiracy theorist, generally speaking. Anything is theoretically possible--we might be living in a simulation, the Moon landing could have been faked, etc.--but small theoretically possibilities don't crowd out what we can generally agree is fact.

But the only news we have is puff pieces in the Daily Mail about what Kate wore to cut which ribbon last year, a simple statement in January, and a heavily doctored picture masquerading as news about her health/location/having the kids nearby.

You can't know anything as fact, or presume anything at all. One camp here presumes the Kate puff pieces are true. Another camp here wonders about the massive photoshop screwup and where William has been. Nobody knows, that's the entire point.

A statement about someone undergoing an abdominal surgery requiring a two-week hospital stay and extensive recovery time isn’t a puff piece. So I feel completely comfortable saying she’s going through a lot right now. I don’t think that means people can’t speculate about what is going on more precisely , but to say that we don’t know that she’s going through a lot right now is saying that the palace could be lying about having surgery. That’s bordering on conspiracy theorism.

You don't get it. People accepted that statement until KP released that awful photo and until William disappeared from his duties.

They undercut their own story by creating mystery around it. If people can't trust KP to release an authentic photo, why should they trust KP on other things?

Is your trust really broken? What things did you used to trust them on and now can't?

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I can’t believe KP has announced they will release another photo for Louis birthday. They haven’t learned.

That photo will be dissected more than any photo in history . They will probably hire expert photoshoppers and make sure this picture passes the photo agencies’ legitimacy tests.

Why would they just not appear somewhere or do a video for Louis birthday? Why a picture?

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It’s also odd they pushed back and deleted Kate off the roster for the June 8th Trooping the Colour event. Kate can’t appear live or “work” from home via Zoom as she did during the pandemic?

Their initial statement should have said due to the pandemic, Kate is going to avoid live events with her condition and indefinitely is going to be taking time off as she recovers . Updates will be provided as soon as we have them. Thanks for well wishes- KP!

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe KP has announced they will release another photo for Louis birthday. They haven’t learned.

That photo will be dissected more than any photo in history . They will probably hire expert photoshoppers and make sure this picture passes the photo agencies’ legitimacy tests.

Why would they just not appear somewhere or do a video for Louis birthday? Why a picture?

They'll probably release a picture of just Louis, which is fine. No need to put others in that picture.