ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL needs to fix the trapped player issues ASAP, before 2026

Yes they should
How about being on a trap team next fall while your teammates play HS and then in the fall playing on a team that doesn’t matter because they will be broken up. Talk about a wasted year

I will not be surprised if ECNL does SY in 25/26. The president already questioned the authority of the BY mandate. It is his league, and SY is good for the customers in his league. There is no point in wasting another year. Since US Soccer will remove the mandate in 26/27, I do not see why an individual league can not start first within its own ecosystem.

[Anonymous]

Yes they should
How about being on a trap team next fall while your teammates play HS and then in the spring playing on a team that doesn’t matter because they will be broken up. Talk about a wasted year

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL needs to fix the trapped player issues ASAP, before 2026

Yes they should
How about being on a trap team next fall while your teammates play HS and then in the fall playing on a team that doesn’t matter because they will be broken up. Talk about a wasted year

I will not be surprised if ECNL does SY in 25/26. The president already questioned the authority of the BY mandate. It is his league, and SY is good for the customers in his league. There is no point in wasting another year. Since US Soccer will remove the mandate in 26/27, I do not see why an individual league can not start first within its own ecosystem.

Makes no sense to wait, ECNL would gain a recruiting advantage from other leagues to start the process sooner

[Anonymous]

Were less than 12 mothns from wide spred implementation. I dont see how they can avoid a slow roll out.

ECNL & US Club should let trapped players play with SY teams ASAP.

Telling a kid they need to remian trapped for another year because they cant fix the computer code is bush league.

[Anonymous]

If you're in a competitive market and a fan of SY, relax, ofcourse change is on the way. And no, you don't need to wait until 26 to see it. Think it through, as much as BY parents come on here and wish, do you really think that a 2011 ECNL team is going to sit back and wait until what? Spring 25 to start identifying talent and working them into the team? There are no tryouts guys. We all know the good kids in each market. If you think the phone calls haven't already begun, you're naive. If you think they don't want to open the door to Q3/Q4 kids ASAP, you're naive. Trapped players will have amazing options in the very near future. Let ECNL figure out how to make BY wacky's less insane about it and and they'll start rolling out the options. Hold tight....

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL needs to fix the trapped player issues ASAP, before 2026

Yes they should
How about being on a trap team next fall while your teammates play HS and then in the fall playing on a team that doesn’t matter because they will be broken up. Talk about a wasted year

I will not be surprised if ECNL does SY in 25/26. The president already questioned the authority of the BY mandate. It is his league, and SY is good for the customers in his league. There is no point in wasting another year. Since US Soccer will remove the mandate in 26/27, I do not see why an individual league can not start first within its own ecosystem.

Makes no sense to wait, ECNL would gain a recruiting advantage from other leagues to start the process sooner

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True.

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I don't see if ECNL breaks any rule by just allowing 3 Q4 players to join their SY team now. MLSN already has a biobanding program that lets three older players play down without any issues for years.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm done with this topic.

Too many wuss B team parents that don't understand how high level sports work.

If you cant hang with the rest of the players on the team because of whatever excuse dejour it won't matter because your kid is going to quit playing soon anyway.

Unfortunate there's a very vocal group of numbnuts that don't matter crying on this thread

Fun to listen to parents call B team parents and kids wusses and bad players and when all we are saying is let my kid compete with yours for a spot. Why you so scared? I can only imagine how scared you are of the A team Q3/4 kids that can also compete with your kids.

The real Q1/2 studs and their parents also want a switch to school year and have the confidence their player can handle competing with older kids.

It’s the Q1/2 parents who can barely make and play that are nervous.

🤦‍♂️ this is a dumb take. The studs don’t give an S if it’s SY or BY. They’re eating everyone else’s breakfast, lunch and dinner in the opportunities game. That isn’t a birth month issue.

The parent or kid, regardless of birth month, who can “barely make and play” also don’t care about BY or SY…because they’re always nervous (they’re also probably not in ECNL).

Only these weird bubble parents and kids care either way about SY or BY on either side of the debate. But news flash! It still doesn’t matter! Nothing replaces doing the hard work. An age cutoff change doesn’t make anyone better or worse, the work still has to be done.

And just a quick point of correction - every single Q4 ECNL top team family I know is pissed about this change.

Weird to get angry and pretend to flex when as you say age cutoffs don't matter. They matter enough to you.

? No, they don’t. They have zero impact on my kid or me. My kid already plays up and starts on her ECNL team, that won’t change. She’s one of the best in the country at her position. And college probably isn’t her play.

Cutoffs don’t matter.

Cutoffs don't matter for a kid like yours, but they do for the large majority, especially when making a huge change that's appears ahead. For the humbled masses, it would be better if we had a system where maybe the better younger players played with the average older ones where both SY and BY still existed. Maybe we need half the country to do school by BY, so the benefits can go beyond sports.

Most ECNL rosters are packed with early month players so cutoffs did matter for many of them. Worry that college will not be in play for a bunch of them after a few years of SY cutoffs.

My daughter is the only Q4 player on her ECNL team. Everyone else is high school she is the only 8th grader. Our rival clubs in our area also have few if any Q3/4 players on their rosters.

Q4 has the fewest birthday as a quarter. That should not be surprising.

Q3 is a different story.

Are you trying to say Q4 underrepresentation is just a result of lower birth rates in those months? To the tune of approx 1 out of 16-18 on the team?!

2023 US Births:
Q1 (Jan-Mar) 24.2%
Q2 (Apr-Jun) 24.5%
Q3 (Jul-Sep) 26.1%
Q4 (Oct-Dec) 25.2%

Last third, approx the trapped group, Sep-Dec, 33.6%. The relative popularity of birth months is pretty steady from year to year. If anything, Q1/2 should be underrepresented if you're going by birthday popularity.

You picked “a year” to make an argument for all births. Cherrypick much?

Interesting fact! The US has a declining birth rate, the Q with the largest decline is…drum roll please…Q4!!!! Age cutoffs don’t matter!

Seriously, birth month distributions change little year to year. Going to be 500 pages plus of parents who are astute enough to know that age cutoffs will affect their kids, they matter.

What's true is they WILL matter for the next generation of players, however it evolves. Those in the current system, not so much. Changing trapped years may help some. I just hope clubs consider programming for any who don't want to play HS for whatever reason (That will be the new thing!)

If a club has a large pool of possible replacement players in an area, in addition to players on top teams going down, there is going to some real replacement. Every team is going to be affected, top or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Were less than 12 mothns from wide spred implementation. I dont see how they can avoid a slow roll out.

ECNL & US Club should let trapped players play with SY teams ASAP.

Telling a kid they need to remian trapped for another year because they cant fix the computer code is bush league.

If only trapped kids are moved, is U14 growing by about 40 percent and U15 teams shrinking by 40 percent really feasible? Would have to do multiple years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Were less than 12 mothns from wide spred implementation. I dont see how they can avoid a slow roll out.

ECNL & US Club should let trapped players play with SY teams ASAP.

Telling a kid they need to remian trapped for another year because they cant fix the computer code is bush league.

If only trapped kids are moved, is U14 growing by about 40 percent and U15 teams shrinking by 40 percent really feasible? Would have to do multiple years.

If there is a change, it will apply to all ages. The minimal they can do is to allow 3 Q4 players to move down without "breaking" any US Soccer BY mandate since MLS has biobanding program for a long time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL needs to fix the trapped player issues ASAP, before 2026

Yes they should
How about being on a trap team next fall while your teammates play HS and then in the fall playing on a team that doesn’t matter because they will be broken up. Talk about a wasted year

I will not be surprised if ECNL does SY in 25/26. The president already questioned the authority of the BY mandate. It is his league, and SY is good for the customers in his league. There is no point in wasting another year. Since US Soccer will remove the mandate in 26/27, I do not see why an individual league can not start first within its own ecosystem.

Because the way it rolls up to FIFA.

You can certainly make your own league and play by your own rules. But you won’t get sanctioned by USSF. And if you’re not sanctioned by the governing body, you’re not getting exposure to college coaches.

There are tons of Mexican leagues and adult leagues in the US that fall into that category.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL needs to fix the trapped player issues ASAP, before 2026

Yes they should
How about being on a trap team next fall while your teammates play HS and then in the fall playing on a team that doesn’t matter because they will be broken up. Talk about a wasted year

I will not be surprised if ECNL does SY in 25/26. The president already questioned the authority of the BY mandate. It is his league, and SY is good for the customers in his league. There is no point in wasting another year. Since US Soccer will remove the mandate in 26/27, I do not see why an individual league can not start first within its own ecosystem.

Because the way it rolls up to FIFA.

You can certainly make your own league and play by your own rules. But you won’t get sanctioned by USSF. And if you’re not sanctioned by the governing body, you’re not getting exposure to college coaches.

There are tons of Mexican leagues and adult leagues in the US that fall into that category.

Sorry if this sounds sarcastic but correct me if I am wrong. You are saying that if ECNL goes SY for Fall 2025, college coaches will not recognize the players as eligible and will not recruit them? But in Fall 2026 they will?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL needs to fix the trapped player issues ASAP, before 2026

Yes they should
How about being on a trap team next fall while your teammates play HS and then in the fall playing on a team that doesn’t matter because they will be broken up. Talk about a wasted year

I will not be surprised if ECNL does SY in 25/26. The president already questioned the authority of the BY mandate. It is his league, and SY is good for the customers in his league. There is no point in wasting another year. Since US Soccer will remove the mandate in 26/27, I do not see why an individual league can not start first within its own ecosystem.

Because the way it rolls up to FIFA.

You can certainly make your own league and play by your own rules. But you won’t get sanctioned by USSF. And if you’re not sanctioned by the governing body, you’re not getting exposure to college coaches.

There are tons of Mexican leagues and adult leagues in the US that fall into that category.

Weaponize the age group. MLS has no problem to play 3 players down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Were less than 12 mothns from wide spred implementation. I dont see how they can avoid a slow roll out.

ECNL & US Club should let trapped players play with SY teams ASAP.

Telling a kid they need to remian trapped for another year because they cant fix the computer code is bush league.

If only trapped kids are moved, is U14 growing by about 40 percent and U15 teams shrinking by 40 percent really feasible? Would have to do multiple years.

I doubt they are shrinking that much each team on average has no more than 4 trapped players and even that might be high. But U14 would grow U15 would be almost the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL needs to fix the trapped player issues ASAP, before 2026

Yes they should
How about being on a trap team next fall while your teammates play HS and then in the fall playing on a team that doesn’t matter because they will be broken up. Talk about a wasted year

I will not be surprised if ECNL does SY in 25/26. The president already questioned the authority of the BY mandate. It is his league, and SY is good for the customers in his league. There is no point in wasting another year. Since US Soccer will remove the mandate in 26/27, I do not see why an individual league can not start first within its own ecosystem.

Because the way it rolls up to FIFA.

You can certainly make your own league and play by your own rules. But you won’t get sanctioned by USSF. And if you’re not sanctioned by the governing body, you’re not getting exposure to college coaches.

There are tons of Mexican leagues and adult leagues in the US that fall into that category.

How does biobanding work? Could ECNL just do their own version of that?