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Here are the two leagues combined by National ranks from YSR between both Mid Atlantic Conferences (GA is bolded): 12 Richmond 38 VDA 39 NC Courage 45 CESA 54 Charlotte SA 61 Arlington 63 FCV 74 SJEB 163 SC United 165 VA Union 171 Loudoun 174 Charlotte Independence 231 NCFC 243 Sporting Delaware 282 Metro 364 Skyline 378 Cedar Stars 393 Wilmington 465 Baltimore Celtic 475 Armour 481 NC Fusion 590 BRYC 995 PA Classics 1034 Ukrainian Nationals There are only 3 ECNL teams ranked substantially low/lower than some of the middle of the pack GA teams. And even as bad as BRYC is at #590 it pales in comparison to PA Classics and Ukrainian Nationals who are both ranked around 1000th in the Nation 995 & 1034 respectively. To put that low a number in perspective, YSR ranks 3466 U14 teams. Two teams that FCV faces are barely ranked in the top third in the Nation. GA Mid Atlantic has two teams in the top 100 and outside of that ECNL Mid Atlantic have 11 teams ranked higher Nationally than the rest of the GA Conference combined. When you look at the stark contrast in quality you can see why FCV parents must spend part of every morning polishing that WAGs medal. FCV's WAGS opponents below are now thrown into the rankings to where they fit in league wise (WAGS italicized): 12 Richmond 24 Anbry 38 VDA 39 NC Courage 45 CESA 54 Charlotte SA 61 Arlington 63 FCV 74 SJEB 107 Morris Academy 119 FC Bucks/CRUSA 128 Total Futbal Elite 163 SC United 165 VA Union 171 Loudoun 174 Charlotte Independence 231 NCFC 243 Sporting Delaware 282 Metro 364 Skyline 378 Cedar Stars 393 Wilmington 465 Baltimore Celtic 475 Armour 481 NC Fusion 590 BRYC 995 PA Classics 1034 Ukrainian Nationals And while Anbry was certainly highly ranked at 24th there were 6 ECNL Mid Atlantic teams that are ranked higher than FCV's WAGs opponents. FCV can play in the top bracket in WAGs and STILL not face stronger competition than half the conference in ECNL's Mid Atlantic Division. Loudoun faces stronger competition on a weekly basis in League play than what FCV can only get from a tournament once a year. Steel sharpens steel and playing cup cake teams in GA week after week will dull the blade. |
Anonymous
I didn't rank anybody, Youth Soccer rankings did. |
Anonymous
This is where YSR run into problems. YSR adds about a point to ECNL teams because they play in the ECNL. |
Anonymous
FCV Dad didn't question YSR when discussing the seeding of teams in WAGs. |
Anonymous
Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahaha. Thats the stupidest thing I’ve ever read. YSR is an algorithm jackass and has nothing to do with leagues. It is simply taking goal differentials of games over a year and a halfs’ time. It works like a virus and is all connected by “six degrees of separation” if you will. LOL, YSR and ECNL conspiracy theory. |
Anonymous
FCV needs to get into the ECNL. |
Anonymous
| rankings are calculated based on their performance over the past YEAR not one game. |
Anonymous
And they won’t get in ECNL because they don’t have a boys side and they made their bed with GA. All FCV has now is some legacy teams but they lack a youth program and their younger teams are a significant drop down in talent. They have no youth player pool, surrounded by larger clubs in ECNL and are in a second tier league. If BP leaves the club they are done. |
Anonymous
So wait… FCV beat Boca Sabr White (34.5) who beat Pen Fusion ECNL(34.47) and BSC ECNL but you think FCV would not beat other ECNL teams with 34ish points? 
Oh and look at that FCV lost points and Boca and Fusion gained Points. Seems like youth soccer ranking is cooking the points again. Based on results of beating Boca a 34.5 and who that team has beaten FCV should be at least 34.5 not 33 and falling. Also Arlington should be in 34.5-34.75 not 33.5. This would be a realistic result for FCV in the ECNL. 1. 35.21 Richmond 2. 33.56 Arlington(Arlington should have more point also) 3. 33.53 FCV(beat teams ranked 34.5 so they will be in the mix with these teams) 4. 34.18 VDA 5. 34.13 NC Courage 6. 34.02 Carolina Elite 7. 33.7 Charlotte SA FCV's hypothetical finish in ECNL North Atlantic 1. 36.12 PDA 2. 33.53 FCV(beat the team that beat Penn Fusion) 2. 34.45 Penn Fusion 3. 33.89 Pipeline And moving further north, FCV's hypothetical finish in New England 1. 34.38 FC Stars 2. 33.53 FCV(beat teams ranked 34.5) 2. 34.59 World Class 3. 34.29 SUSA |
Anonymous
| Actual question- Why would Penn and Boca be in the same bracket allowing a "lower ranked" FCV an easier path to the Final if these Flights and Brackets are set up using rankings? |
Anonymous
All depends who makes the Divisions. IMO, they did a poor job with WAGS, but it is still early Fall and things change. But yeah, one division was stacked, the other, not so much. BTW, FCV won the final because of coaching. They got a goal early in the second half and went to a strong defensive set, packing the box and taking punishment to 30 minutes. |
Anonymous
Are you serious? FCV got a big green up arrow for beating Boca and Penn Fusion got a big red down arrow for losing to Boca. You seem to gloss over FCV's tie to a lower ranked FC Bucks and a loss and win against a lower ranked VA Union. Beating low ranked teams like Skyline 1-0 demonstrate how the overall level of competition in GA will begin to work against FCV over time. But what FCV did get was big red down arrow for beating Skyline 1-0. This is the risk of being in GA. Sure, you're winning games but nobody cares because of who the competition you faced. The reality is FCV needs every win and every social media post to stay in the spotlight. FCV's record against ECNL teams over the last year is 3-2-2. While a small sample size the games were against mostly mid to lower table ECNL teams. While it doesn't paint a complete picture but even 3-2-2 with a +4 goal differential is in stark contrast to a current GA record 0f 7-0 with +15 goal differential with the same number of games. And it doesn't get better when FCV plays against top 100 teams in GA. GA Playoffs they went 1-1-1 with a -2 goal differential. They tied 105th ranked Morris Academy, they beat 85th ranked City SC and lost badly to 12th ranked TopHat 1-4. The also lost to 41st ranked NEFC 1-2 and 36th ranked Beadling 1-2. Their goal differential against other top ranked GA competition is -2. There is no evidence that FCV would fare any better than in ECNL than mid table. They currently only beat lower competition and occasionally still find ways to struggle against lower ranked teams at times and they fail to deliver consistent performances against equal to higher ranked teams than themselves. There is a reason they are so excited about winning WAGS, it is because beating teams better than them doesn't happen very often it at all. They are a good team and on their best day they can run with anyone but they are simply not consistent enough against equal to better competition to ever call them "Elite". |
Anonymous
The question to ask is why tournaments keep putting Celtic in top brackets? They were in the top bracket at Jeff Cup and at WAGS and they scored a total of 1 goal combined in both tournaments. |
Anonymous
Excellent post. Explain how well Arlington is doing then? |
Anonymous
Arlington is currently in 6th place in ECNL. They finished in 3rd in GA last year. They have gone 1-1-1 against 3 of the top 4 ECNL teams they have faced this season so far. They are doing about as expected. They are closer to mid table than they are to the top of the table. |