Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else find it interesting that they still use their titles, are upset that Archie wasn't made a prince, and yet cry about how toxic the whole family is? Seems a bit hypocritical.


Titles are his, by birth. No less his than any of the other made up titles they honor.


I understand that's why he still HAS titles. What I am asking is why are they still using them publicly if they despirse so much the institution the titles represent.

H&M: "The BRF is toxic and racist and hates us."
Also H&M: "Please call us by our BRF titles at all times."


Again, cause they're his. May have associations that tie to his identity, despite the flawed system. Not my decision to judge. Or yours.

It’s hypocritical, whether you like it or not.


It's really not but okay.


We don't use titles in this country. They are at best like nicknames. But they carry no weight and should not be used here. He can use Harry Windsor / MB or Harry Sussex if he wants to live here.


Indeed! In fact, there was a constitutional amendment proposed awhile ago (but is still eligible for ratification) that would strip American citizenship from a citizen who accepted a royal title.


There are 27 Amendments to the Constitution of the United States of America. In 300 years.

You really think you're going to get an amendment for something that realistically affects 4-5 individuals? Maybe 8 if you add on Marie-Chantel's American kids that hold royal titles?

Think again.



Wow, you are extremely ignorant. It is actually in the Constitution.

As to what the law says about the matter, US Constitution Article 1 clause 8 states, "No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state."

It is there for a reason. There are tons of minor and major European titles floating around, many of them fake, from centuries of influence peddling, all over the world. The framers wanted to prevent both a hereditary class system, as well as the fake titles here. .... Try reading up on history.

Here is a list of Americans over time who lived abroad and held there titles abroad: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Americans_who_held_noble_titles_from_other_countries
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"Wow, you are extremely ignorant. It is actually in the Constitution.

As to what the law says about the matter, US Constitution Article 1 clause 8 states, "No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state."

It is there for a reason. There are tons of minor and major European titles floating around, many of them fake, from centuries of influence peddling, all over the world. The framers wanted to prevent both a hereditary class system, as well as the fake titles here. .... Try reading up on history.

Here is a list of Americans over time who lived abroad and held there titles abroad: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Americans_...le_titles_from_other_countries"

Wholeheartedly agree! Especially when Markle, a U.S. citizen, has a "Serving the Monarchy" section on her/Harry's website.

W.T.F.

I'd say she's getting danger-close to either renounce her U.S. citizenship or cut bait entirely from the BRF, which may include her husband.
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Newsweek article: Harry and Meghan are the only royals whose approval ratings have fallen:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-meghan-markle-only-royals-see-approval-rating-fall-new-survey-finds-1586875%3famp=1
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Anonymous wrote:Harry has “no money”?! He inherited $10 million from Diana! Sorry if that isn’t enough to live on, smh.


It’s not enough to cover security AND live when you’re getting death threats from White supremacists.



No one told them to move back to America. They could have been well-protected in Canada.


How? They still had to pay for their own security in Canada. Their own living expenses. They would have still required earning an income whether it was Canada or the USA. And why are you begrudging them from wanting to work and earn their keep?


DP. Then they should go ahead and do that. Stop whining about daddy cutting them off. Stop whining about how everyone was mean to them. These two are insanely wealthy and privileged but they can’t stop whining about how everyone has victimized them.

Most grown adults have to pay for their own living expenses. But we don’t cry about it constantly.


It’s funny how people can see and hear the same thing, but have different interpretations. Fair enough. I did not hear, nor do I see whining and complaining. They were asked a question and they provided a response. Harry was asked why he left and he explained the security thing and the harassment he felt his wife received while working on behalf of the BRF. People wanted to know about the money deals he was making because some people said they were crass. He explained why he needed the money. His family no longer had security. He asked his father to continue providing security, at least until he could afford it himself and was denied. He was made moves and deals to take care of his family. What real man would not. Of course his explanation for needing money still was not and is not good enough for many of you. I guess y’all want the Suxxess to take the Cersie Walking of Shame. Not gonna happen. I hope H$M get all the money and never have to think
of asking Charles or William for help ever again. I am sure the first ask for security was difficult for a grown man to do.

He should thank his dad for turning him into an independent adult then. As long as he had handouts coming in where would be the motivation to make something of himself? Time to quit whining.


+1. Exactly. Sounds like Charles handled things well then.


Purleze. There are countless threads on DCUM from you posters discussing how much money your parents and grandparents gave you. There are other posters currently discussing how much money they should gift their adult children in the purchase of their home.
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Anonymous wrote:Harry has “no money”?! He inherited $10 million from Diana! Sorry if that isn’t enough to live on, smh.


It’s not enough to cover security AND live when you’re getting death threats from White supremacists.



No one told them to move back to America. They could have been well-protected in Canada.


How? They still had to pay for their own security in Canada. Their own living expenses. They would have still required earning an income whether it was Canada or the USA. And why are you begrudging them from wanting to work and earn their keep?


DP. Then they should go ahead and do that. Stop whining about daddy cutting them off. Stop whining about how everyone was mean to them. These two are insanely wealthy and privileged but they can’t stop whining about how everyone has victimized them.

Most grown adults have to pay for their own living expenses. But we don’t cry about it constantly.


It’s funny how people can see and hear the same thing, but have different interpretations. Fair enough. I did not hear, nor do I see whining and complaining. They were asked a question and they provided a response. Harry was asked why he left and he explained the security thing and the harassment he felt his wife received while working on behalf of the BRF. People wanted to know about the money deals he was making because some people said they were crass. He explained why he needed the money. His family no longer had security. He asked his father to continue providing security, at least until he could afford it himself and was denied. He was made moves and deals to take care of his family. What real man would not. Of course his explanation for needing money still was not and is not good enough for many of you. I guess y’all want the Suxxess to take the Cersie Walking of Shame. Not gonna happen. I hope H$M get all the money and never have to think
of asking Charles or William for help ever again. I am sure the first ask for security was difficult for a grown man to do.

He should thank his dad for turning him into an independent adult then. As long as he had handouts coming in where would be the motivation to make something of himself? Time to quit whining.


+1. Exactly. Sounds like Charles handled things well then.


Purleze. There are countless threads on DCUM from you posters discussing how much money your parents and grandparents gave you. There are other posters currently discussing how much money they should gift their adult children in the purchase of their home.


NP. Okay, so what? If a parent freely and happily provides their adult child financial support, that’s great for the parent and for the child. Yes, there are many people who have these arrangements on DCUM and elsewhere. That doesn’t mean that adult children (especially adult children who are pushing 40, with 2 kids of their own - not talking about a 22 year old here) are entitled to that support, even if the parent is wealthy. And who could blame a parent for pulling financial support when their child has basically renounced everything you stand for? I don’t.
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Anonymous wrote:Weirdly enough I was thinking about this last night...in the context of the Cambridges. W+K are rudderless and have no real activities to call their own. I was thinking they could make COVID their cause celebre. Just like George + Elizabeth (the royals they're trying to emulate) had WWII + rebuilding Britain.

But ummm...H+M seem to be getting there first. And she's what? 7 months...pregnant.


Is Meghan organizing this?


She and Prince Harry are the campaign co-chairs for corporate donations.

Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, will serve as campaign chairs of VAX LIVE, encouraging the private sector to make donations to COVAX, the vaccine pillar of the ACT-Accelerator, to ensure everyone, everywhere can access COVID-19 vaccines.

“Over the past year, our world has experienced pain, loss, and struggle — together. Now we need to recover and heal — together,” said Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

“We can’t leave anybody behind. We will all benefit, we will all be safer, when everyone, everywhere has equal access to the vaccine. We must pursue equitable vaccine distribution, and in that, restore faith in our common humanity. This mission couldn’t be more critical or important.”

So they just issued a statement and...?


And the concert with global celebrity + White House participation will be in two weeks. I suspect they're hoping to raise the same amount of money that huge events like the 80s Live Aid concerts did.

A worthy cause.

But they didn’t organize this from the ground up, did they?


I wasn't aware that was required?

If people are praising them for working SO hard, then one would assume they were doing a tad more than just being figureheads. Or royals who just show up to cut ribbons.


Patience grasshopper. The fun thing about Harry + Meghan leading their own foundation now is that there's no palace to say 'no more 5am emails, we're slacking over here not working'!

The connections they're making and the projects they have in motion...I can see them being on leading stages in 2022. Just in time for baby #2 to turn 6 months old.


Welp. I said this was happening. Cambridges had all of Covid to think of a connection and are losing out.


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Anonymous wrote:Weirdly enough I was thinking about this last night...in the context of the Cambridges. W+K are rudderless and have no real activities to call their own. I was thinking they could make COVID their cause celebre. Just like George + Elizabeth (the royals they're trying to emulate) had WWII + rebuilding Britain.

But ummm...H+M seem to be getting there first. And she's what? 7 months...pregnant.


Is Meghan organizing this?


She and Prince Harry are the campaign co-chairs for corporate donations.

Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, will serve as campaign chairs of VAX LIVE, encouraging the private sector to make donations to COVAX, the vaccine pillar of the ACT-Accelerator, to ensure everyone, everywhere can access COVID-19 vaccines.

“Over the past year, our world has experienced pain, loss, and struggle — together. Now we need to recover and heal — together,” said Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

“We can’t leave anybody behind. We will all benefit, we will all be safer, when everyone, everywhere has equal access to the vaccine. We must pursue equitable vaccine distribution, and in that, restore faith in our common humanity. This mission couldn’t be more critical or important.”

So they just issued a statement and...?


And the concert with global celebrity + White House participation will be in two weeks. I suspect they're hoping to raise the same amount of money that huge events like the 80s Live Aid concerts did.

A worthy cause.

But they didn’t organize this from the ground up, did they?


I wasn't aware that was required?

If people are praising them for working SO hard, then one would assume they were doing a tad more than just being figureheads. Or royals who just show up to cut ribbons.


Patience grasshopper. The fun thing about Harry + Meghan leading their own foundation now is that there's no palace to say 'no more 5am emails, we're slacking over here not working'!

The connections they're making and the projects they have in motion...I can see them being on leading stages in 2022. Just in time for baby #2 to turn 6 months old.


Welp. I said this was happening. Cambridges had all of Covid to think of a connection and are losing out.




I'm not even particularly a fan of harry and meghan but they are infinitely more interesting than will and Kate who come off as boring and vanilla - nothing wrong with that at all, and in fact that is part of their appeal with certain audiences.
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This reminds me of the time the palace released news about a royal project with a local community center and a bunch of moms who were supporting it by sharing recipes in a cookbook. I said then (on DCUM) that this should have and would have been the perfect project for Kate to spearhead (as a mom and reportedly someone who loves to cook for her family).

Funnily enough that project was also released while the Sussexs were expecting. Now look.
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What I love about the VaxLive concert is that it’s not just celebrities in attendance, but world leaders as well. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will be there, Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau. It’s not just Hollywood A-listers, it’s presidents and prime ministers... and Harry & Meghan.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else find it interesting that they still use their titles, are upset that Archie wasn't made a prince, and yet cry about how toxic the whole family is? Seems a bit hypocritical.


Titles are his, by birth. No less his than any of the other made up titles they honor.


I understand that's why he still HAS titles. What I am asking is why are they still using them publicly if they despirse so much the institution the titles represent.

H&M: "The BRF is toxic and racist and hates us."
Also H&M: "Please call us by our BRF titles at all times."


Again, cause they're his. May have associations that tie to his identity, despite the flawed system. Not my decision to judge. Or yours.


It reeks of insincerity and childish tantrums.


Agreed. It was childish of Charles to cut off their security. It was insincere power move that massively backfired. Charles miscalculated that if he pulled their security it would force them back under whatever terms he dictated.

Boy did end up being immature and tone deaf.


Agreed. The BRF gambled but they were dealing with a new Harry. Whatever happens with them as a couple, I'm glad that he's grown into himself as a man. I think his Mom would be proud.


Its interesting how well Harry has come out in all of this. His popularity is as high as ever - probably because the public sees he has balls? He's a loyal and faithful husband. He also has a 'normal' job like the public.


Harry and Meghan’s popularity had fallen:

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/03/19/meghan-harry-oprah-favorability-poll




The interesting thing about the poll you linked is that Meghan’s favorability rating is significantly higher than Charles. William and Harry are literally tied with both getting 54%. So, even with a big fall in popularity, Harry was just as popular as William...Let that sink in.

Yougov also does landline polls which skews heavily towards an older demographic. Meghan and Harry are significantly more popular with younger generations, so this type of poll artificially lowers their numbers.



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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else find it interesting that they still use their titles, are upset that Archie wasn't made a prince, and yet cry about how toxic the whole family is? Seems a bit hypocritical.


Titles are his, by birth. No less his than any of the other made up titles they honor.


I understand that's why he still HAS titles. What I am asking is why are they still using them publicly if they despirse so much the institution the titles represent.

H&M: "The BRF is toxic and racist and hates us."
Also H&M: "Please call us by our BRF titles at all times."


Again, cause they're his. May have associations that tie to his identity, despite the flawed system. Not my decision to judge. Or yours.


It reeks of insincerity and childish tantrums.


Agreed. It was childish of Charles to cut off their security. It was insincere power move that massively backfired. Charles miscalculated that if he pulled their security it would force them back under whatever terms he dictated.

Boy did end up being immature and tone deaf.


Agreed. The BRF gambled but they were dealing with a new Harry. Whatever happens with them as a couple, I'm glad that he's grown into himself as a man. I think his Mom would be proud.


Its interesting how well Harry has come out in all of this. His popularity is as high as ever - probably because the public sees he has balls? He's a loyal and faithful husband. He also has a 'normal' job like the public.


Harry and Meghan’s popularity had fallen:

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/03/19/meghan-harry-oprah-favorability-poll




The interesting thing about the poll you linked is that Meghan’s favorability rating is significantly higher than Charles. William and Harry are literally tied with both getting 54%. So, even with a big fall in popularity, Harry was just as popular as William...Let that sink in.

Yougov also does landline polls which skews heavily towards an older demographic. Meghan and Harry are significantly more popular with younger generations, so this type of poll artificially lowers their numbers.



NP. Yep. Harry hasn't been resident in the UK for 1.5 years now. Meghan barely made it in the UK with a year's residency and she's still the 3rd most popular female royal - almost edging out Kate. And Diana is apparently still the most popular royal and she's been dead for 30 years.

Prince Harry is 'preferred future monarch' as Duke faces demands to return to UK

A new Deltapoll survey found more than half of 18 to 24-year-olds want Prince Harry to be crowned King when the Queen dies as he is the "preferred future monarch". A total of 51 percent of respondents in the age bracket want the Duke to follow in the footsteps of the monarch despite stepping down from royal duties and moving to LA.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1420523/prince-harry-duke-of-sussex-king-prince-william-charles-queen-news-latest-vn

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What I love about the VaxLive concert is that it’s not just celebrities in attendance, but world leaders as well. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will be there, Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau. It’s not just Hollywood A-listers, it’s presidents and prime ministers... and Harry & Meghan.



Yep. They're the royal component. To the Cambridges' chagrin. It used to be that American media would reach out to the palaces for participation- here's rockstar Diana at The Prince's Trust Rock Gala in 1986. Now they're not even bothering looking across the pond.

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What I love about the VaxLive concert is that it’s not just celebrities in attendance, but world leaders as well. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will be there, Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau. It’s not just Hollywood A-listers, it’s presidents and prime ministers... and Harry & Meghan.



Yep. They're the royal component. To the Cambridges' chagrin. It used to be that American media would reach out to the palaces for participation- here's rockstar Diana at The Prince's Trust Rock Gala in 1986. Now they're not even bothering looking across the pond.




It’s so interesting how much they’ve been able to do since leaving. Harry has truly spread his wings and looks so happy.

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What I love about the VaxLive concert is that it’s not just celebrities in attendance, but world leaders as well. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will be there, Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau. It’s not just Hollywood A-listers, it’s presidents and prime ministers... and Harry & Meghan.



Yep. They're the royal component. To the Cambridges' chagrin. It used to be that American media would reach out to the palaces for participation- here's rockstar Diana at The Prince's Trust Rock Gala in 1986. Now they're not even bothering looking across the pond.




It’s so interesting how much they’ve been able to do since leaving. Harry has truly spread his wings and looks so happy.



I can't wait until the sob stories from Britain complaining about how Harry isn't raising money for the UK or doing important work for the UK. You know its coming.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s so interesting how much they’ve been able to do since leaving. Harry has truly spread his wings and looks so happy.



Really? I didn't think that he came off all that happy on Oprah as he was whining about being cut off and needing to figure out a way to earn a living.
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