3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Can you point me to the evidence that a positive asymptomatic person is shedding and spreading?


Many case reports in China; at least 1 in Germany.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic.html

https://www.sciencealert.com/researchers-confirmed-patients-can-transmit-the-coronavirus-without-showing-symptoms

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001468
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

You Trump haters are too much. The guy graduated from Georgetown Med and has had a lengthy career in public health with a specialty in HIV/retroviruses. Chief of Infectious Disease at UMD. What defines a hack to you? Apparently working in the government during the Trump administration. The definition of brilliant scientists and doctors? Democrats.

- signed public health professional


What defines a hack? This:

CDC Director Robert Redfield, who thanked him "for coming here today, for encouraging and bringing energy to the men and women you see here trying to keep America safe. I think that's the most important thing I want to say."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/06/trump-cancels-trip-to-cdc-friday-122653
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

You Trump haters are too much. The guy graduated from Georgetown Med and has had a lengthy career in public health with a specialty in HIV/retroviruses. Chief of Infectious Disease at UMD. What defines a hack to you? Apparently working in the government during the Trump administration. The definition of brilliant scientists and doctors? Democrats.

- signed public health professional


What defines a hack? This:

CDC Director Robert Redfield, who thanked him "for coming here today, for encouraging and bringing energy to the men and women you see here trying to keep America safe. I think that's the most important thing I want to say."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/06/trump-cancels-trip-to-cdc-friday-122653


Could he get his head any further up Trump’s rump?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The CDC well and truly sucks.

They are blowing this.


I just read a profile of the head of the CDC, and he's Trump appointee hack with a really sordid history when it comes to infectious disease. The CDC is full of brilliant scientists and doctors doing their best, but the guy at the top seems to be just what you'd expect of a Trump official.


And he gave an embarrassing “dear leader” plug at the press conference yesterday. I am a physician and have talked with many colleagues who are aghast at how quickly trust in and respect for the cdc has plummeted in the estimation of the medical community. Decades of esteem squandered.



Elections have consequences.


Yes, in this case that large swaths of the medical community have gone from holding the cdc in the highest esteem to thinking of them as some mix of ineffectual plodders and grotesque sycophants.


Please! They screwed up Ebola too.


Yes, and wasn't it swine flu for Obama which he did not even give the time of day an declare it an emergency until 1,000,000's were infected and 1,000 were dead. Please, the administration is doing the best they can given the hand dealt to them by the Chinese. This has been going on in China since December 5 and they tried and did hide it through the end of January. We will be fine, if we keep our heads together and don't panic. Yes, some people will be worse off than others, and I am at that age along with many of my friends and families who will be in that group that doesn't fair well if we catch the virus.


Yes, it is the best they can do given their extreme incompetence and lack of expertise (given that they fired the experts).

Compared to other countries who were dealt the same hand, we suck a$$.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The CDC well and truly sucks.

They are blowing this.


I just read a profile of the head of the CDC, and he's Trump appointee hack with a really sordid history when it comes to infectious disease. The CDC is full of brilliant scientists and doctors doing their best, but the guy at the top seems to be just what you'd expect of a Trump official.


And he gave an embarrassing “dear leader” plug at the press conference yesterday. I am a physician and have talked with many colleagues who are aghast at how quickly trust in and respect for the cdc has plummeted in the estimation of the medical community. Decades of esteem squandered.



Elections have consequences.


Yes, in this case that large swaths of the medical community have gone from holding the cdc in the highest esteem to thinking of them as some mix of ineffectual plodders and grotesque sycophants.


Please! They screwed up Ebola too.


Yes, and wasn't it swine flu for Obama which he did not even give the time of day an declare it an emergency until 1,000,000's were infected and 1,000 were dead. Please, the administration is doing the best they can given the hand dealt to them by the Chinese. This has been going on in China since December 5 and they tried and did hide it through the end of January. We will be fine, if we keep our heads together and don't panic. Yes, some people will be worse off than others, and I am at that age along with many of my friends and families who will be in that group that doesn't fair well if we catch the virus.


Yes, it is the best they can do given their extreme incompetence and lack of expertise (given that they fired the experts).

Compared to other countries who were dealt the same hand, we suck a$$.



The virus is spreading just as quickly in Europe.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can you point me to the evidence that a positive asymptomatic person is shedding and spreading?


Many case reports in China; at least 1 in Germany.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic.html

https://www.sciencealert.com/researchers-confirmed-patients-can-transmit-the-coronavirus-without-showing-symptoms

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001468


First article say 'may'
Second article was in Wuhan - they could have gotten it from anywhere.
Third article - Person came from China and claims German person gave it to them? Suspect. Could have gotten it in China
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can you point me to the evidence that a positive asymptomatic person is shedding and spreading?


Many case reports in China; at least 1 in Germany.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic.html

https://www.sciencealert.com/researchers-confirmed-patients-can-transmit-the-coronavirus-without-showing-symptoms

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001468


Also note in the second article:

"but travelled to Anyang on January 10. Three days later, she went with five family members to visit a sick patient (who did not have the coronavirus) at the Anyang District Hospital.

On January 17, one of the woman's family members came down with a fever and sore throat. The following week, the other four relatives developed a fever and respiratory symptoms. Those relatives were admitted to the Fifth People's Hospital on January 26."

The person they visited didn't have it. But they were at a hospital just the same.


Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can you point me to the evidence that a positive asymptomatic person is shedding and spreading?


Many case reports in China; at least 1 in Germany.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic.html

https://www.sciencealert.com/researchers-confirmed-patients-can-transmit-the-coronavirus-without-showing-symptoms

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001468


First article say 'may'
Second article was in Wuhan - they could have gotten it from anywhere.
Third article - Person came from China and claims German person gave it to them? Suspect. Could have gotten it in China


Why are you so invested in denying the possibility of asymptomatic shedding? You asked for evidence. This is the NEJM!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The CDC well and truly sucks.

They are blowing this.


I just read a profile of the head of the CDC, and he's Trump appointee hack with a really sordid history when it comes to infectious disease. The CDC is full of brilliant scientists and doctors doing their best, but the guy at the top seems to be just what you'd expect of a Trump official.


And he gave an embarrassing “dear leader” plug at the press conference yesterday. I am a physician and have talked with many colleagues who are aghast at how quickly trust in and respect for the cdc has plummeted in the estimation of the medical community. Decades of esteem squandered.



Elections have consequences.


Yes, in this case that large swaths of the medical community have gone from holding the cdc in the highest esteem to thinking of them as some mix of ineffectual plodders and grotesque sycophants.


Please! They screwed up Ebola too.


Yes, and wasn't it swine flu for Obama which he did not even give the time of day an declare it an emergency until 1,000,000's were infected and 1,000 were dead. Please, the administration is doing the best they can given the hand dealt to them by the Chinese. This has been going on in China since December 5 and they tried and did hide it through the end of January. We will be fine, if we keep our heads together and don't panic. Yes, some people will be worse off than others, and I am at that age along with many of my friends and families who will be in that group that doesn't fair well if we catch the virus.


1. FACT your Obama information is false. Conservative news fake news.
2. FACT Trump is currently president of the US not Obama, and he has already lied to us on National TV and asked Dr Fauci not to speak to the public.
3. FACT this administration knew about this long ago and did absolutely nothing to prepare.
4. FACT Pence is in charge a guy who literally does not believe in Science. And was on National TV this morning spewing garbage. He hurt many in Indiana with his policies. Not someone who should be in charge of a health crisis.

We should already have more test kits and hospital beds. Nope.




Anonymous
The number of people on this thread who think they are public health experts is breathtaking...
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Anonymous wrote:I read something about how a person who was at the villages event called to see if they should be tested. And were told only if they developed symptoms. I thought there was asymptotic transmission. I feel like they aren’t doing all they could be. I predict community transmission is confirmed in the next few days


I was there this morning. Each and every person who walks in must fill out a questionnaire and has their temp taken. Residents’ temps are taken twice a day. Nobody there is currently symptomatic. The event that the coronavirus patient attended was in one room so health dept. believes risk is low and have not instructed quarantines, unless symptomatic.


So no employers that worked that event, work anywhere else around the residents? I find that hard to believe.


That I don’t know.
Anonymous
First case reported in DC. Apparently older woman.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:First case reported in DC. Apparently older woman.


And cue pandemonium...
Anonymous
President Donald Trump's top economic adviser, Larry Kudlow, falsely claimed on Friday that the coronavirus "is contained" in the US. Another senior Trump official, counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway, made a similar though slightly less definitive claim, saying that the virus "is being contained."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

You Trump haters are too much. The guy graduated from Georgetown Med and has had a lengthy career in public health with a specialty in HIV/retroviruses. Chief of Infectious Disease at UMD. What defines a hack to you? Apparently working in the government during the Trump administration. The definition of brilliant scientists and doctors? Democrats.

- signed public health professional


What defines a hack? This:

CDC Director Robert Redfield, who thanked him "for coming here today, for encouraging and bringing energy to the men and women you see here trying to keep America safe. I think that's the most important thing I want to say."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/06/trump-cancels-trip-to-cdc-friday-122653


Easy to hate Trump and his team.

President Donald Trump's top economic adviser, Larry Kudlow, falsely claimed on Friday that the coronavirus "is contained" in the US. Another senior Trump official, counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway, made a similar though slightly less definitive claim, saying that the virus "is being contained."
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