cutoff scores for Fairfax County GT centers for this year?

[Anonymous]

You can request to see your child's AAP submission file any time after the school submits it.

Anonymous wrote:@ 21:56
Do you think all is depend on GBRS not on test scores.
How did you get to know about GBRS?

[Anonymous]

Thanks 8:20..

[Anonymous]

Yeah.. what does the teacher know? Your child doesn't do their work, or pay attention, or know the answers to anything we ask.. oh! they must be GT! Typical absentee parent excuse.

[Anonymous]

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Our second grade son got 140 NNAT but only 123 in composite Cogat.
Is he guaranteed to get in GT?

Yeah, he's guaranteed to get in. Every other kid in the County has to go through the screening process, which is explained in detail on the FCPS website & discussed ad nauseum on this forum, but your kid doesn't, so don't bother reading up on it. He's in, guaranteed. Congratulations![/quote]

??? this is incorrect. A kid with those score is guaranteed to get into the screening pool, but tht is all. The scores alone don't guarantee acceptance into the AAP.

Sarcasm, duh!

And I have to agree that it's very annoying that people keep asking basic, stupid questions that are easily answered by the most rudimentary review of the AAP web site.

lol! Sorry, I should hve known it was sarcasm. Never know on this board though.

You parents would be better served trying to do away with the GT program.. it's a horrible program and a misguided process for entry.. coming from someone who sits on a review committee every year.

[Anonymous]

You parents would be better served trying to do away with the GT program.. it's a horrible program and a misguided process for entry.. coming from someone who sits on a review committee every year.

what kind of review committee?

[Anonymous]

Serious question to 14:53 --- why do you say it is horrible. I'm just a regular parent and my first grader got a 119 (which I'm very pleased with -- I am happy if she is a good student in the regular program). Just wondering from your insider knowledge what you like or don't like about the GT program and process.

Thanks,

[Anonymous]

"You parents would be better served trying to do away with the GT program.. it's a horrible program and a misguided process for entry.. coming from someone who sits on a review committee every year."

this person's kids didn't get into the GT program and he/she is quite bitter about it.
He/she was posting this viewpoint quite passionately this weekend on Fairfax Underground.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"You parents would be better served trying to do away with the GT program.. it's a horrible program and a misguided process for entry.. coming from someone who sits on a review committee every year."

this person's kids didn't get into the GT program and he/she is quite bitter about it.
He/she was posting this viewpoint quite passionately this weekend on Fairfax Underground.

Care to link a mom up?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"You parents would be better served trying to do away with the GT program.. it's a horrible program and a misguided process for entry.. coming from someone who sits on a review committee every year."

this person's kids didn't get into the GT program and he/she is quite bitter about it.
He/she was posting this viewpoint quite passionately this weekend on Fairfax Underground.

Care to link a mom up?

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/487614.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it's a horrible program and a misguided process for entry.. coming from someone who sits on a review committee every year.

Perhaps they could do their job better if they didn't have to put up with you sitting on them. I bet you're heavy. You're probably the type to keep Prince Albert in a can too. Get off and let him out!

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't see if anyone mention that they had kids not attending FCPS, taking WISC and getting into the AAP program with a score? My son doesn't attend FCPS so we had him take the WISC-IV. He had a "Full Scale Score of 128 (range 122-132) which has him at the 97th percentile. How can we find out what the typical cut off or profile would look like if the kid isn't in FCPS and taking the other two tests?

I think the subtest scores would reveal more. Did he do especially well in one or more subtests? I would think that would bode well.

He got the following VCI - 114 - 82% PRI - 129 - 97% WMI - 126 - 96% PSI - 118 - 88% Subtests - Verbal Similarities - 11 - 63% Vocabulary - 14 - 91% Comprehension - 13 - 84% Information - 16 - 98% Perceptual Reasoning Block Design - 14 - 91% Picture Concepts - 15 - 95% Matrix Resoning - 15 - 95% Working Memory Digit Span - 13 - 84% Let-Num Sequ - 16 - 98% Processing Speed Codi

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't see if anyone mention that they had kids not attending FCPS, taking WISC and getting into the AAP program with a score? My son doesn't attend FCPS so we had him take the WISC-IV. He had a "Full Scale Score of 128 (range 122-132) which has him at the 97th percentile. How can we find out what the typical cut off or profile would look like if the kid isn't in FCPS and taking the other two tests?

I think the subtest scores would reveal more. Did he do especially well in one or more subtests? I would think that would bode well.

He got the following VCI - 114 - 82% PRI - 129 - 97% WMI - 126 - 96% PSI - 118 - 88% Subtests - Verbal Similarities - 11 - 63% Vocabulary - 14 - 91% Comprehension - 13 - 84% Information - 16 - 98% Perceptual Reasoning Block Design - 14 - 91% Picture Concepts - 15 - 95% Matrix Resoning - 15 - 95% Working Memory Digit Span - 13 - 84% Let-Num Sequ - 16 - 98% Processing Speed Codi

Those look like good scores, but for the AAP program, they typically prefer scores of 98% and above. It's worth a shot, though, if you can put together a good portfolio.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can request to see your child's AAP submission file any time after the school submits it.

Anonymous wrote:@ 21:56
Do you think all is depend on GBRS not on test scores.
How did you get to know about GBRS?

How long does it usually take the local school submits to the central committee?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can request to see your child's AAP submission file any time after the school submits it.

Anonymous wrote:@ 21:56
Do you think all is depend on GBRS not on test scores.
How did you get to know about GBRS?

How long does it usually take the local school submits to the central committee?

They submit right after the submission deadline. When I met with the AART at our school, we scheduled the meeting to occur the first week of March, or roughly four weeks after the submission deadline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't see if anyone mention that they had kids not attending FCPS, taking WISC and getting into the AAP program with a score? My son doesn't attend FCPS so we had him take the WISC-IV. He had a "Full Scale Score of 128 (range 122-132) which has him at the 97th percentile. How can we find out what the typical cut off or profile would look like if the kid isn't in FCPS and taking the other two tests?

I think the subtest scores would reveal more. Did he do especially well in one or more subtests? I would think that would bode well.

He got the following VCI - 114 - 82% PRI - 129 - 97% WMI - 126 - 96% PSI - 118 - 88% Subtests - Verbal Similarities - 11 - 63% Vocabulary - 14 - 91% Comprehension - 13 - 84% Information - 16 - 98% Perceptual Reasoning Block Design - 14 - 91% Picture Concepts - 15 - 95% Matrix Resoning - 15 - 95% Working Memory Digit Span - 13 - 84% Let-Num Sequ - 16 - 98% Processing Speed Codi

Those look like good scores, but for the AAP program, they typically prefer scores of 98% and above. It's worth a shot, though, if you can put together a good portfolio.

Sorry but this is wrong. The 98 % score is only for the cut off that is required on one of the tests to automatically get in the screening pool without a referral. It does not represent the aggregate average of the students in AAP. AAP students make up about 12 to 15% of the total population so despite what many seem to think on this thread they are not all geniuses with IQs in the 97% range. Your scores look very solid to me.

In 2005, the average COGATs of students in GT was 119 verbal, 126 non-verbal, 121 quatitative and 129 for the NNAT which are all below 97%.

The AAP center statistics for 2005 can be found here
http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/board.nsf/39c6389c088be51585256e56000c1bf2/2b1b2b585a5d305e852570fb004f3f9f/$FILE/Gifted%20and%20Talented%20Center%20Program.pdf