GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

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Anonymous wrote:Gotham announced like 12 clubs that have the same pathway now. Some ECNL, some GA. No need to leave your league. The real question will be which players are getting picked up from which club from Gotham.

Bet this is setting the foundation for MLSN/GA to swoop in.

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Anonymous wrote:What is this alliance is really just a testing of the waters? What if nothing happens? That seems most likely to me.

The deal that GA needs is with NWSL not MLS Next. A deal with MLS Next is just dumb.

Where is the NWSL deal? I agree if NSWL made GA its farm clubs then GA would be making progress.

MLS Next knows how to provide a bridge from youth to pro.

Sure NWSL can choose to swim upstream and figure everything out themselves. But this is a HUGE waste of time if MLS Next is willing to provide feedback and assistance.

Sorry -- feedback and assistance? These are for profit businesses. What is in it for MLS Next? Nothing I think.

Seems like MLS Next is trying to convince someone else, GA, into staying birth year so they aren't on a complete island. And to try to compete with ECNL's bundling of boys and girls soccer without having to make any real commitment or spend any money.

The MLS Next business model is to run academies for about say $750k to $1.5 million for four age categories to offer free soccer to 100 boys and sell a player or two to Europe every other year or so to recover costs. They also want to offer the label of MLS Next to clubs so their academies can scout the better teams, have reasonable local competition to play against and to block other leagues from getting top teams/players. In total, they don't want to run a charity for free soccer and they don't want competition.

GA could copy this if European countries are willing to pay a million or so for each girl that is locked into a reduced wage deal and girls are willing to get a few free years of soccer at the cost of being locked into a low paying contract if they go pro. Might work in say 10 years or so, but not ready for pre time yet.

Your numbers are ridiculous.

Nobody believes what you say.

Would be about $10,000 per player per year. DC United academy only has a staff of about 10 and gets a transfer fee every year or so. You think they are spending more? Akinmboni, $1.5m Nyeman, $400k and Paredes the rare big win $7m. What are your numbers?

The point is that MLS has a solid business model covering the bulk of their academy costs through player sales. Something that would be difficult for NWSL to do and for them to have a reason to use GA as a sort of 2nd tier to their a hypothetical NWSL academies.

Full academy kid at Atlanta is 20k a year. MLS has already announced that academies aren’t working out and clubs are losing money. Losing money in Europe is normal, not normal in the US business market

Interesting. Atlanta has very twice the staff listed on web as DCUA and a similar number on rosters so it makes sense that Atlanta would cost around twice as much per player as DCUA.

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There is so much fear here.

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Anonymous wrote:There is so much fear here.

Idk, seems almost all just hope for an underdog.

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Anonymous wrote:There is so much fear here.

Fear of what?

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Everyone knows what comes next…no pun intended

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows what comes next…no pun intended

Hahaha that made me laugh.

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GA with the nice message for the new year 🙂

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows what comes next…no pun intended

Hahaha that made me laugh.

No it didn't. Whether you agree with it, or not, it wasnt a funny statement. Only idiots laugh at nothing. I guess if the shoe fits wear it.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows what comes next…no pun intended

Hahaha that made me laugh.

No it didn't. Whether you agree with it, or not, it wasnt a funny statement. Only idiots laugh at nothing. I guess if the shoe fits wear it.

This is you....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gotham announced like 12 clubs that have the same pathway now. Some ECNL, some GA. No need to leave your league. The real question will be which players are getting picked up from which club from Gotham.

Bet this is setting the foundation for MLSN/GA to swoop in.

How exactly does women's pro club announcing a pathway with an ECNL club set up anything for MLSN(men's) and GA (nothing to do with this announcement)

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Anonymous wrote:Gotham announced like 12 clubs that have the same pathway now. Some ECNL, some GA. No need to leave your league. The real question will be which players are getting picked up from which club from Gotham.

Bet this is setting the foundation for MLSN/GA to swoop in.

How exactly does women's pro club announcing a pathway with an ECNL club set up anything for MLSN(men's) and GA (nothing to do with this announcement)

They are positioning themselves to become feeder clubs to NWSL.

There are many NWSL teams, so you could expect there to be regional clubs that will feed into these pro sports.

My bet is they will convert to GA/MLSn clubs

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Anonymous wrote:Gotham announced like 12 clubs that have the same pathway now. Some ECNL, some GA. No need to leave your league. The real question will be which players are getting picked up from which club from Gotham.

Bet this is setting the foundation for MLSN/GA to swoop in.

How exactly does women's pro club announcing a pathway with an ECNL club set up anything for MLSN(men's) and GA (nothing to do with this announcement)

They are positioning themselves to become feeder clubs to NWSL.

There are many NWSL teams, so you could expect there to be regional clubs that will feed into these pro sports.

My bet is they will convert to GA/MLSn clubs

You are right. NWSL clubs will set up relationships with feeder clubs within their region.

My question is, why do you assume it will be GA clubs and not ECNL? Doesn’t make any sense.

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Anonymous wrote:MLSN is currently granting clubs full membership and announcing new clubs. Not a single ECNL has been mentioned…….

ECNL = NCSL. It just is.

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Anonymous wrote:Gotham announced like 12 clubs that have the same pathway now. Some ECNL, some GA. No need to leave your league. The real question will be which players are getting picked up from which club from Gotham.

Bet this is setting the foundation for MLSN/GA to swoop in.

How exactly does women's pro club announcing a pathway with an ECNL club set up anything for MLSN(men's) and GA (nothing to do with this announcement)

They are positioning themselves to become feeder clubs to NWSL.

There are many NWSL teams, so you could expect there to be regional clubs that will feed into these pro sports.

My bet is they will convert to GA/MLSn clubs

You are right. NWSL clubs will set up relationships with feeder clubs within their region.

My question is, why do you assume it will be GA clubs and not ECNL? Doesn’t make any sense.

Basically NWSL clubs are doing what NWSL won't. Provide a bridge from youth to pro.

BTW this is exactly what MLS Next is trying to provide leadership on with GA.

It's funny because everyone but NWSL leadership is working to provide a higher level of talent on the field.

This won't work because there's no contracts involved or standardized way for clubs to pay for talent. It's akin to sending recruiters to youth clubs to check out players. Which already happens now.