Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous
Peace could be had tomorrow, with a withdrawal by Putin. That is the fastest, simplest solution. You want peace, go tell him.

Anyone who says this would not bring peace is caught up in far too many Kremlin lies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Peace could be had tomorrow, with a withdrawal by Putin. That is the fastest, simplest solution. You want peace, go tell him.

Anyone who says this would not bring peace is caught up in far too many Kremlin lies.



Yes, it could. But Putin is not withdrawing from Ukraine. So the war continues. Russia is presently losing a 1000 men a day in places like Adviivka. They've given up on trying to encircle it. Ukraine has reportedly sent significant reinforcements. And they will now fight for it block by block. Ukraine is well dug in. The've been building defenses for 10 years. It will be yet another slaughter for Russians. But they will keep coming and will likely take it in the end at enormous cost.

Meanwhile, there is talk about another Russian push towards Kyiv.

This war is nowhere close to done. Unless, of course, Ukraine runs out of ammo, which is increasingly likely because of Speaker Mike Johnson and his fellow pro-Putin Republicans.
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Anonymous wrote:make peace you fools.

Perhaps Russia could just back out of their assault on Ukraine. That would bring peace. They have no claim to the land they’re trying to seize.


Ukraine isn’t really a country. They have plenty of historical and moral right to protect ethnic Russians from mafia oligarchs like Zelensky.


lol. How embarrassing for Moscow. How will RT spin that narrative? I L-O-V-E IT when Russians can't even keep their own propaganda straight.

So the "isn't really a country" racked up half-a-million dead Russian soldiers? If Ukraine wasn't a country, why did Russia invade? Why is the non-country speaking at the UN? If Ukraine isn't a country, does that mean Russia is in the middle of an internal Civil War? Why did Russia seize Ukrainian ships - are Ukrainians pirates?????

Oh, this has got to be the best post tonight! BAAAHHAHAHAHHAHHHAA!!!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:make peace you fools.

Perhaps Russia could just back out of their assault on Ukraine. That would bring peace. They have no claim to the land they’re trying to seize.


Ukraine isn’t really a country. They have plenty of historical and moral right to protect ethnic Russians from mafia oligarchs like Zelensky.


"Ukraine isn't really a country" = fake Russian propaganda. Ukraine has had its own unique cultural, linguistic and historic identity for well over 1000 years.

Putin has far more ties to mafia oligarchs than Zelensky.

And the main reason ethnic Russians are there at all is because the Ukrainians who lived there were forcibly displaced by Russia. For example the Crimean Tatars. A majority of the ethnic Russians there don't have any roots there that go even 100 years back.


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If Ukraine runs out of ammo, here are the most likely scenarios:
(a) Ukrainian Army goes guerilla. Russians are plagued by sabotage, terrorism, internal strive not only in Ukraine, but throughout Russia, for the next forty years. Ukraine will become the unstable "Gaza Strip and Golan Heights" of Europe.
(b) Russia starts a mass genocide to remove ethnic Ukrainians. Poland, Germany and/or Czechoslovakia decide enough is enough and invades Ukraine to remove Russian soldiers. Russia now faces fresh, highly-trained, well-equipped troops. At that point, the UK, France, US, etc. would, for all intents and purposes be at war with Russia (the same way intervention happened in the Former Yugoslavia, even though the Former Yugoslavia was not a NATO member, NATO troops were sent in to prevent a greater destabilization from happening).
(c) a nuclear exchange occurs.
(d) two or more of the above.

You see, Russia can't conduct an extended occupation of Ukraine. Using Russian logic, as they've said many times on TV, their solution would be the Final Solution. However, the Russians have seriously miscalculated if they believe that Poland and Czechoslovakia would sit idly by and repeat Nazi history. Germany, of course, would soon follow their lead.

No Boris and Natasha. You're not protecting The Motherland - you're protecting The Fourth Reich.
Anonymous

^^ at least you’re admitting Ukraine is losing and Biden has lost his second war. Now he’s working on losing his 3rd in the Middle East. Gotta figure China will move soon to blockade Taiwan while our military is low on ammo and personnel before Trump gets in.
Anonymous
Still same old same old.
Slavic men don’t count, let them die, no matter the outcome.
Too bad the two countries are too blind to see it.
It will be good for the U.S. though, no matter the outcome.
Anonymous
Still holding my breath.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If Ukraine runs out of ammo, here are the most likely scenarios:
(a) Ukrainian Army goes guerilla. Russians are plagued by sabotage, terrorism, internal strive not only in Ukraine, but throughout Russia, for the next forty years. Ukraine will become the unstable "Gaza Strip and Golan Heights" of Europe.
(b) Russia starts a mass genocide to remove ethnic Ukrainians. Poland, Germany and/or Czechoslovakia decide enough is enough and invades Ukraine to remove Russian soldiers. Russia now faces fresh, highly-trained, well-equipped troops. At that point, the UK, France, US, etc. would, for all intents and purposes be at war with Russia (the same way intervention happened in the Former Yugoslavia, even though the Former Yugoslavia was not a NATO member, NATO troops were sent in to prevent a greater destabilization from happening).
(c) a nuclear exchange occurs.
(d) two or more of the above.

You see, Russia can't conduct an extended occupation of Ukraine. Using Russian logic, as they've said many times on TV, their solution would be the Final Solution. However, the Russians have seriously miscalculated if they believe that Poland and Czechoslovakia would sit idly by and repeat Nazi history. Germany, of course, would soon follow their lead.

No Boris and Natasha. You're not protecting The Motherland - you're protecting The Fourth Reich.


The UA isn't going to go guerilla, they just don't have enough ideologically committed fanatics left. The guys that have been conscripted are more than happy to surrender. They'll gladly lay down their arms and not particularly care if they pay taxes to Moscow or Kiev (or Lwów, lol!).

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Anonymous wrote:If Ukraine runs out of ammo, here are the most likely scenarios:
(a) Ukrainian Army goes guerilla. Russians are plagued by sabotage, terrorism, internal strive not only in Ukraine, but throughout Russia, for the next forty years. Ukraine will become the unstable "Gaza Strip and Golan Heights" of Europe.
(b) Russia starts a mass genocide to remove ethnic Ukrainians. Poland, Germany and/or Czechoslovakia decide enough is enough and invades Ukraine to remove Russian soldiers. Russia now faces fresh, highly-trained, well-equipped troops. At that point, the UK, France, US, etc. would, for all intents and purposes be at war with Russia (the same way intervention happened in the Former Yugoslavia, even though the Former Yugoslavia was not a NATO member, NATO troops were sent in to prevent a greater destabilization from happening).
(c) a nuclear exchange occurs.
(d) two or more of the above.

You see, Russia can't conduct an extended occupation of Ukraine. Using Russian logic, as they've said many times on TV, their solution would be the Final Solution. However, the Russians have seriously miscalculated if they believe that Poland and Czechoslovakia would sit idly by and repeat Nazi history. Germany, of course, would soon follow their lead.

No Boris and Natasha. You're not protecting The Motherland - you're protecting The Fourth Reich.


The UA isn't going to go guerilla, they just don't have enough ideologically committed fanatics left. The guys that have been conscripted are more than happy to surrender. They'll gladly lay down their arms and not particularly care if they pay taxes to Moscow or Kiev (or Lwów, lol!).



I disagree.
Many have been touched by war, and you don’t need to be male to go guerilla
It’s hard to tell Russians and Ukrainians apart, and many Ukrainians have been living in Russia forever
Great situation for sleeper cells
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Complete nonsense on this thread lately.

The Ukrainian counteroffensive is struggling. Yes, I hope everyone expected that. It doesn't mean the war is over. It doesn't mean Ukraine has to accept a peace treaty and give all those occupied lands to Russia.

It means the conflict will drag into next year, and possibly 2025. Just like intelligence services of every NATO country warned about. We knew. But the media always wants quick resolutions, and therefore is chomping at the bit. Don't fall for it. We're in this for the long-term.




No one expected this counteroffensive to struggle, you wouldn't do one if you did. Ukraine/NATO got too deep in their own propaganda and is no longer functioning on accurate information.

Whether NATO is willing to shoulder the financial, material, and political burden for two more years is open to debate.


Nonsense. War is not easy. And the overwhelming brunt of it is still on Ukraine. Russia is still the big dog in this fight even with the smattering of pieces of outdated hardware and tidbits of training and advice Ukraine has gotten from a few friends.

Your warped perspective is rooted entirely in the false Russian supposition that this is directly a war between Russia and NATO, which it is not.


Here are the specifics of how NATO played themselves: https://www.rt.com/russia/578411-nato-ukraine-counteroffensive-training/

They used a simulator called KORA which predicted Ukrainian success. The simulation was programmed with faulty premises, likely because they believed their own propaganda. The result was an over-confident Ukraine ran right into a brick wall.

This is how lies get people killed.


Good lord. The linked article was written by discredited pedophile, convicted sex offender and serial liar Scott Ritter.


This guy?



It's almost like there is Russian influence and "kompromat" that influences American political opinion.
Anonymous
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^^ at least you’re admitting Ukraine is losing and Biden has lost his second war. Now he’s working on losing his 3rd in the Middle East. Gotta figure China will move soon to blockade Taiwan while our military is low on ammo and personnel before Trump gets in.


Trump won’t get back in the Oval Office - just throwing away the GOP chances once he wins their nomination even from jail.
Anonymous
Ukrainian sources are starting to buzz that Zaluzhny has been dismissed from his position as Commander in Chief. Who will replace him and what that will mean for the conduct of the war can only be guessed at.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ukrainian sources are starting to buzz that Zaluzhny has been dismissed from his position as Commander in Chief. Who will replace him and what that will mean for the conduct of the war can only be guessed at.


Its another big event that the Ukrainians can't keep their stories straight on: https://kyivindependent.com/commander-in-chief-zaluzhnyi/

Ukraine's Commander-in-Chief Valerii Zaluzhnyi may have been dismissed on Jan. 29, according to sources of the Kyiv Independent and several other Ukrainian media.

No official decree has been published on President Volodymyr Zelensky's website yet.

A Kyiv Independent source in the General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces confirmed that Zaluzhnyi was fired. The source wasn't authorized to speak to the press.

Neither Zaluzhnyi nor Zelensky have made any public comments yet.
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^^ at least you’re admitting Ukraine is losing and Biden has lost his second war. Now he’s working on losing his 3rd in the Middle East. Gotta figure China will move soon to blockade Taiwan while our military is low on ammo and personnel before Trump gets in.


Trump won’t get back in the Oval Office - just throwing away the GOP chances once he wins their nomination even from jail.


Trump wins either way. If he loses Biden is in over his head and liberal kids end up drafted. Conservative warriors arent tolerated in the service so they skate .
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