South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Barcroft families can transfer to Randolph for a traditional calendar. It’s right across the street. They should be offered a bus, but that is an easy enough fix.
The calendar is a benefit to the majority of students in attendance.
The neighborhood was majority poor 30 years ago, as it is today, thanks in large part to the tireless work of families within Barcroft who value diversity.
People uncomfortable with the schools have traditionally sold their homes and moved on. I think it’s for the best.

The calendar is of no educational benefit. It costs more to run a year-round school, and costs more to bus walkable students out to a different neighborhood school or an option school. Schools are for educating, not babysitting, not letting you take an off-peak vacation. FFS.

The families who pushed for this calendar aren't in the school any longer. Their children have aged out and they've moved on.

And take a look at the HHI for the neighborhood. It's not majority poor, not by a long shot. Why do you think they tore down the Food Star and are replacing it with a Harris Teeter? Business aren't charities and they do their market research. The people are here. It's too late. It's the same reason why your "brilliant" suggestion of courting a Sweet Green to open in the empty space at Arlington Mill was ridiculous and made you a laughing stock in the neighborhood.

The tireless work of the families in Barcroft. Are you kidding me? Why don't you go ask our former Civic Associatoon pres why he sent all four of his kids to an option school and is currently advocating for an educational model that requires additional funding, funding which could instead be used to shore up the ESL budget, which is also in danger of being cut.

Many of the families who don’t have a strong voice appreciate that calendar. It’s a benefit to those families.

Is it an educational benefit or a convenience? It sounds like a convenience, which is not the concern of APS. And again, if this is for families who need it most, why isn't it at Randolph or Carlin Springs instead? It does not comport with the Barcroft neighborhood of today.

Sounds like it’s inconvenient for your property values...
Not APS’ problem.
Barcroft of today has many immigrant families that benefit from a year round schedule. I’m sorry it’s inconvenient for your family, but it wasn’t a secret when you bought your home. That neighborhood has always been a mix of middle class and working poor families. It’s not a new dynamic.
Although this thread has inspired me to send an email to VOICE. They should be made aware that Barcroft is in the crosshairs of gentrifiers. That community should have a say in what best benefits them.

An email to VOICE?
In the crosshairs?
Are you sure you took your meds today?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Barcroft families can transfer to Randolph for a traditional calendar. It’s right across the street. They should be offered a bus, but that is an easy enough fix.
The calendar is a benefit to the majority of students in attendance.
The neighborhood was majority poor 30 years ago, as it is today, thanks in large part to the tireless work of families within Barcroft who value diversity.
People uncomfortable with the schools have traditionally sold their homes and moved on. I think it’s for the best.

The calendar is of no educational benefit. It costs more to run a year-round school, and costs more to bus walkable students out to a different neighborhood school or an option school. Schools are for educating, not babysitting, not letting you take an off-peak vacation. FFS.

The families who pushed for this calendar aren't in the school any longer. Their children have aged out and they've moved on.

And take a look at the HHI for the neighborhood. It's not majority poor, not by a long shot. Why do you think they tore down the Food Star and are replacing it with a Harris Teeter? Business aren't charities and they do their market research. The people are here. It's too late. It's the same reason why your "brilliant" suggestion of courting a Sweet Green to open in the empty space at Arlington Mill was ridiculous and made you a laughing stock in the neighborhood.

The tireless work of the families in Barcroft. Are you kidding me? Why don't you go ask our former Civic Associatoon pres why he sent all four of his kids to an option school and is currently advocating for an educational model that requires additional funding, funding which could instead be used to shore up the ESL budget, which is also in danger of being cut.

Many of the families who don’t have a strong voice appreciate that calendar. It’s a benefit to those families.

Is it an educational benefit or a convenience? It sounds like a convenience, which is not the concern of APS. And again, if this is for families who need it most, why isn't it at Randolph or Carlin Springs instead? It does not comport with the Barcroft neighborhood of today.

Sounds like it’s inconvenient for your property values...
Not APS’ problem.
Barcroft of today has many immigrant families that benefit from a year round schedule. I’m sorry it’s inconvenient for your family, but it wasn’t a secret when you bought your home. That neighborhood has always been a mix of middle class and working poor families. It’s not a new dynamic.
Although this thread has inspired me to send an email to VOICE. They should be made aware that Barcroft is in the crosshairs of gentrifiers. That community should have a say in what best benefits them.

Spoken like a self righteous northie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Barcroft families can transfer to Randolph for a traditional calendar. It’s right across the street. They should be offered a bus, but that is an easy enough fix.
The calendar is a benefit to the majority of students in attendance.
The neighborhood was majority poor 30 years ago, as it is today, thanks in large part to the tireless work of families within Barcroft who value diversity.
People uncomfortable with the schools have traditionally sold their homes and moved on. I think it’s for the best.

The calendar is of no educational benefit. It costs more to run a year-round school, and costs more to bus walkable students out to a different neighborhood school or an option school. Schools are for educating, not babysitting, not letting you take an off-peak vacation. FFS.

The families who pushed for this calendar aren't in the school any longer. Their children have aged out and they've moved on.

And take a look at the HHI for the neighborhood. It's not majority poor, not by a long shot. Why do you think they tore down the Food Star and are replacing it with a Harris Teeter? Business aren't charities and they do their market research. The people are here. It's too late. It's the same reason why your "brilliant" suggestion of courting a Sweet Green to open in the empty space at Arlington Mill was ridiculous and made you a laughing stock in the neighborhood.

The tireless work of the families in Barcroft. Are you kidding me? Why don't you go ask our former Civic Associatoon pres why he sent all four of his kids to an option school and is currently advocating for an educational model that requires additional funding, funding which could instead be used to shore up the ESL budget, which is also in danger of being cut.

Many of the families who don’t have a strong voice appreciate that calendar. It’s a benefit to those families.

Is it an educational benefit or a convenience? It sounds like a convenience, which is not the concern of APS. And again, if this is for families who need it most, why isn't it at Randolph or Carlin Springs instead? It does not comport with the Barcroft neighborhood of today.

Sounds like it’s inconvenient for your property values...
Not APS’ problem.
Barcroft of today has many immigrant families that benefit from a year round schedule. I’m sorry it’s inconvenient for your family, but it wasn’t a secret when you bought your home. That neighborhood has always been a mix of middle class and working poor families. It’s not a new dynamic.
Although this thread has inspired me to send an email to VOICE. They should be made aware that Barcroft is in the crosshairs of gentrifiers. That community should have a say in what best benefits them.

LOL, VOICE doesn't give an eff about schools and they won't get involved.

Are you the b**** on othe listserv who complained you wanted to move because this neighborhood is getting too uppity? Have you moved yet? Did you sell your house for $200,000 under market value to do your part to stave off those evil "gentrifiers"? Because your neighbors surely didn't.

[Anonymous]

VOICE? That is a laugh. Most of them don't live in south arlington and like to feel good about keeping people they do not consort with poor. Much of the VOICE mess from the affordable housing master plan was orchestrated by the very church on the Pike that then sold its land for a HUGE PROFIT to affordable housing developers. The other half are in cahoots with the affordable housing developers. They are in it for the money...

And, by the way, do you think the lower income residents in Barcroft, many of whom have multiple kids, benefit from having their middle and high school children on different schedules? It is not less easy for them as it is for wealthier kids, if not harder. Unlike families in the SFHs, they don't have the flexibility to seek housing elsewhere. So, stop telling them what is good for them. You know squat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VOICE? That is a laugh. Most of them don't live in south arlington and like to feel good about keeping people they do not consort with poor. Much of the VOICE mess from the affordable housing master plan was orchestrated by the very church on the Pike that then sold its land for a HUGE PROFIT to affordable housing developers. The other half are in cahoots with the affordable housing developers. They are in it for the money...

And, by the way, do you think the lower income residents in Barcroft, many of whom have multiple kids, benefit from having their middle and high school children on different schedules? It is not less easy for them as it is for wealthier kids, if not harder. Unlike families in the SFHs, they don't have the flexibility to seek housing elsewhere. So, stop telling them what is good for them. You know squat.

Truth. Affordable Housing is big money for a few people who do not live in Arlington.

When P. Murphy presents the new budget and “necessary cuts”, you should ask why we are building more density, depressing business, and inviting more non-taxpayers and subsidize all that in an already strained system that’s out of space.

[Anonymous]

Option Barcroft. Done.

[Anonymous]

Think of how much revenue the county would get if they would stop preventing gentrification of certain parts of south arlington with zoning ordinances like the Pike plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VOICE? That is a laugh. Most of them don't live in south arlington and like to feel good about keeping people they do not consort with poor. Much of the VOICE mess from the affordable housing master plan was orchestrated by the very church on the Pike that then sold its land for a HUGE PROFIT to affordable housing developers. The other half are in cahoots with the affordable housing developers. They are in it for the money...

And, by the way, do you think the lower income residents in Barcroft, many of whom have multiple kids, benefit from having their middle and high school children on different schedules? It is not less easy for them as it is for wealthier kids, if not harder. Unlike families in the SFHs, they don't have the flexibility to seek housing elsewhere. So, stop telling them what is good for them. You know squat.

The older kids can watch themselves...it is the younger ones need the care that is what makes the year round schedule so great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VOICE? That is a laugh. Most of them don't live in south arlington and like to feel good about keeping people they do not consort with poor. Much of the VOICE mess from the affordable housing master plan was orchestrated by the very church on the Pike that then sold its land for a HUGE PROFIT to affordable housing developers. The other half are in cahoots with the affordable housing developers. They are in it for the money...

And, by the way, do you think the lower income residents in Barcroft, many of whom have multiple kids, benefit from having their middle and high school children on different schedules? It is not less easy for them as it is for wealthier kids, if not harder. Unlike families in the SFHs, they don't have the flexibility to seek housing elsewhere. So, stop telling them what is good for them. You know squat.

The older kids can watch themselves...it is the younger ones need the care that is what makes the year round schedule so great.

Do you have children?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VOICE? That is a laugh. Most of them don't live in south arlington and like to feel good about keeping people they do not consort with poor. Much of the VOICE mess from the affordable housing master plan was orchestrated by the very church on the Pike that then sold its land for a HUGE PROFIT to affordable housing developers. The other half are in cahoots with the affordable housing developers. They are in it for the money...

And, by the way, do you think the lower income residents in Barcroft, many of whom have multiple kids, benefit from having their middle and high school children on different schedules? It is not less easy for them as it is for wealthier kids, if not harder. Unlike families in the SFHs, they don't have the flexibility to seek housing elsewhere. So, stop telling them what is good for them. You know squat.

The older kids can watch themselves...it is the younger ones need the care that is what makes the year round schedule so great.

Do you have children?

Yes and they don't need summer daycare through 12th grade. Grow up people.

[Anonymous]

Just wanted to call everyone's attention to the false info being pedaled over on AEM by a Board Member of AHS, which is not a "think tank," but rather a non-profit dedicated to providing more affordable housing in Arlington County. CAFs do generate more children. Though not as many as single family homes, because there are fewer overall units of CAF than there are SFH in Arlington. But their generation factor IS HIGHER, which makes sense, as the push is to house FAMILIES, and families include children, children who need seats in schools. It's all here in this report, pgs. 15 and 19 are rather illuminating:

http://arlington.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&event_id=1132&meta_id=155525

STOP LYING LIKE THE NRA and then maybe we can talk. We're not against AH, we're against lying liars who lie. If you want that housing, make an honest ask for commensurate funding for APS for every student generated by that housing, instead of pretending that they are not there. We can see them on the darn maps, FFS. Those dark spots with high density of students? THEY ARE CAFs. And no, we are not "losing" students in market rate housing, because it's not being torn down. The housing is becoming slightly less affordable, meaning some families opt to move out of Arlington, but they are then replaced by other families who can either slightly better afford the rent or who are willing to sacrifice something else in their budget to afford to be in Arlington, "for the schools."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VOICE? That is a laugh. Most of them don't live in south arlington and like to feel good about keeping people they do not consort with poor. Much of the VOICE mess from the affordable housing master plan was orchestrated by the very church on the Pike that then sold its land for a HUGE PROFIT to affordable housing developers. The other half are in cahoots with the affordable housing developers. They are in it for the money...

And, by the way, do you think the lower income residents in Barcroft, many of whom have multiple kids, benefit from having their middle and high school children on different schedules? It is not less easy for them as it is for wealthier kids, if not harder. Unlike families in the SFHs, they don't have the flexibility to seek housing elsewhere. So, stop telling them what is good for them. You know squat.

The older kids can watch themselves...it is the younger ones need the care that is what makes the year round schedule so great.

Do you have children?

Yes and they don't need summer daycare through 12th grade. Grow up people.

So schools are now being used to provide summer daycare? Interesting that in such difficult times for the school budget that this is not being questioned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just wanted to call everyone's attention to the false info being pedaled over on AEM by a Board Member of AHS, which is not a "think tank," but rather a non-profit dedicated to providing more affordable housing in Arlington County. CAFs do generate more children. Though not as many as single family homes, because there are fewer overall units of CAF than there are SFH in Arlington. But their generation factor IS HIGHER, which makes sense, as the push is to house FAMILIES, and families include children, children who need seats in schools. It's all here in this report, pgs. 15 and 19 are rather illuminating:

http://arlington.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&event_id=1132&meta_id=155525

STOP LYING LIKE THE NRA and then maybe we can talk. We're not against AH, we're against lying liars who lie. If you want that housing, make an honest ask for commensurate funding for APS for every student generated by that housing, instead of pretending that they are not there. We can see them on the darn maps, FFS. Those dark spots with high density of students? THEY ARE CAFs. And no, we are not "losing" students in market rate housing, because it's not being torn down. The housing is becoming slightly less affordable, meaning some families opt to move out of Arlington, but they are then replaced by other families who can either slightly better afford the rent or who are willing to sacrifice something else in their budget to afford to be in Arlington, "for the schools."

I hate autocorrect. Peddled. I meant "peddled."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a benefit to a specific population within that boundary. It was created to help reduce mid year absences.

Is there a specific population at this one school that is not present at Randolph, Henry, Carlin Springs, Abingdon, Claremont, Campbell, etc.? And do we make policy based on the exception rather than the rule? This policy was created in the 1980's. A LOT has changed in Arlington since that time, and a LOT has changed in this neighborhood over the same period of time. Time to take another look.

Not really
It was majority immigrant then
It’s majority immigrant now

And Randolph and Carlin Springs are majority immigrant. So what's different about the kids at Barcroft? Nothing. And the neighborhood has changed, but the families who want a regular school that aligns with all the other schools in APS and with siblings, and camp schedules, and Congressional recess, and friends outside the neighborhood don't have one. Just make it a regular calendar already. Or an option school, here or elsewhere. It's one or the other.

Barcroft became year round in 2003, and the motivation was to decrease summer learning loss, including English language skills.

Then shouldn't the calendar be paired with the school with the highest percentage of ELL students, which is coincidentally NOT Barcroft? And the neighborhood demographics have changed significantly during the same period of time, even if the school does not reflect this change. If APS is so worried about saving money, maybe they should try to get those 297 transfers from Barcroft back to their walkable neighborhood school. This calendar has not benefited the students, based on objective data. They've had 15 years to "pilot" this without any positive measurable result.

This wasn't a "pilot" program effort. The parents at the time requested it and fought for it. I believe it required at least 80% buy-in. I am eternally grateful for their efforts. It was a community initiative, and and an opt-out to Barrett was made available until Barret became too crowded and the default school became Randolph.

If 80% of the neighborhood kids actually go to barcroft let's keep the year round schedule. Since so many choice out we need to end it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Barcroft families can transfer to Randolph for a traditional calendar. It’s right across the street. They should be offered a bus, but that is an easy enough fix.
The calendar is a benefit to the majority of students in attendance.
The neighborhood was majority poor 30 years ago, as it is today, thanks in large part to the tireless work of families within Barcroft who value diversity.
People uncomfortable with the schools have traditionally sold their homes and moved on. I think it’s for the best.

The calendar is of no educational benefit. It costs more to run a year-round school, and costs more to bus walkable students out to a different neighborhood school or an option school. Schools are for educating, not babysitting, not letting you take an off-peak vacation. FFS.

The families who pushed for this calendar aren't in the school any longer. Their children have aged out and they've moved on.

And take a look at the HHI for the neighborhood. It's not majority poor, not by a long shot. Why do you think they tore down the Food Star and are replacing it with a Harris Teeter? Business aren't charities and they do their market research. The people are here. It's too late. It's the same reason why your "brilliant" suggestion of courting a Sweet Green to open in the empty space at Arlington Mill was ridiculous and made you a laughing stock in the neighborhood.

The tireless work of the families in Barcroft. Are you kidding me? Why don't you go ask our former Civic Associatoon pres why he sent all four of his kids to an option school and is currently advocating for an educational model that requires additional funding, funding which could instead be used to shore up the ESL budget, which is also in danger of being cut.

Many of the families who don’t have a strong voice appreciate that calendar. It’s a benefit to those families.

Is it an educational benefit or a convenience? It sounds like a convenience, which is not the concern of APS. And again, if this is for families who need it most, why isn't it at Randolph or Carlin Springs instead? It does not comport with the Barcroft neighborhood of today.

Sounds like it’s inconvenient for your property values...
Not APS’ problem.
Barcroft of today has many immigrant families that benefit from a year round schedule. I’m sorry it’s inconvenient for your family, but it wasn’t a secret when you bought your home. That neighborhood has always been a mix of middle class and working poor families. It’s not a new dynamic.
Although this thread has inspired me to send an email to VOICE. They should be made aware that Barcroft is in the crosshairs of gentrifiers. That community should have a say in what best benefits them.

LOL, VOICE doesn't give an eff about schools and they won't get involved.

Are you the b**** on othe listserv who complained you wanted to move because this neighborhood is getting too uppity? Have you moved yet? Did you sell your house for $200,000 under market value to do your part to stave off those evil "gentrifiers"? Because your neighbors surely didn't.

Shame shame shame. We worry so much about our kids with social media and nasty online comments and bullying. And what are modelling right here.

Show some respect for each other and model civil discourse for every to see. Including our kids (who can see all of this).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP8kywONcwo