SecDef shares US war Plan in Group chat

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Signal is approved for govt use no different than making a phone call and more secure than a text?

Signal is permissible to use for work purposes provided that any decisions made are also recorded through formal channels.


Recording “decisions made” is not actually the standard for retaining government records.


Notes and materials that are internal and precede final decisions have been excluded from FOIA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Senator John Thune, the majority leader, appeared open to the idea of relevant Senate committees examining the Signal chat episode. “I suspect the Armed Services Committee may want to have some folks testify and have some of those questions answered,” he said Tuesday afternoon at a news conference. “What we want to do is make sure that something like that doesn’t happen again.”




And how will they do that? Asking with hope here.
Anonymous
Some of us remember MAGAs calling for a military tribunal and public execution for Hillary Clinton for far less of an egregious breach of National Security.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Senator John Thune, the majority leader, appeared open to the idea of relevant Senate committees examining the Signal chat episode. “I suspect the Armed Services Committee may want to have some folks testify and have some of those questions answered,” he said Tuesday afternoon at a news conference. “What we want to do is make sure that something like that doesn’t happen again.”



Yes. All the protocols that are in place, the ones the Trump administration found “too cumbersome” to comply with were instituted to ensure things like this national security breach don’t happen. Thune doesn’t get to pretend that no one could have imagined what happened.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Signal is approved for govt use no different than making a phone call and more secure than a text?

Signal is permissible to use for work purposes provided that any decisions made are also recorded through formal channels.


Recording “decisions made” is not actually the standard for retaining government records.


Notes and materials that are internal and precede final decisions have been excluded from FOIA.


Try again … we’re talking about records, not FOIA. Different things.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Senator John Thune, the majority leader, appeared open to the idea of relevant Senate committees examining the Signal chat episode. “I suspect the Armed Services Committee may want to have some folks testify and have some of those questions answered,” he said Tuesday afternoon at a news conference. “What we want to do is make sure that something like that doesn’t happen again.”



Yes. All the protocols that are in place, the ones the Trump administration found “too cumbersome” to comply with were instituted to ensure things like this national security breach don’t happen. Thune doesn’t get to pretend that no one could have imagined what happened.


+1 The way to prevent fools from violating rules that endanger our military is to remove those fools from positions where they have the ability to do so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So are the Democrats not doing anything? All I am reading about is a lot of outrage but is anyone doing anything?

If not, what would it take for people to do something? Another 9/11?



Even if another 9/11 happened, they would blame it on Biden or DEI hires not stopping it or something. GOP doesn't take responsibility for ANYTHING.


Funny how none of the people on the signal group were women or people of color.


Tulsi and Susan Wiles. But yeah— lots of white guys.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Senator John Thune, the majority leader, appeared open to the idea of relevant Senate committees examining the Signal chat episode. “I suspect the Armed Services Committee may want to have some folks testify and have some of those questions answered,” he said Tuesday afternoon at a news conference. “What we want to do is make sure that something like that doesn’t happen again.”


That's a tame response. If it was a Dem administration, they'd be screaming for heads to roll.
Anonymous


Pam’s stressing over Elon. Elon is under siege. Poor thing

She can’t focus on two problems

Wait, who is pam?

Pam Blondie - another one of the clowns in this worthless administration.

I said something sarcastic on her Twitter thread last night and she “liked” my comment. I forgot to add an (S) but it should have been obvious.
Anonymous
CBS News has received an internal NSA bulletin from Feb 2025 warning staff NOT to use Signal app for sensitive info, citing vulnerabilities to Russian hackers. These docs were sent pre-Houthi chat scandal with Jeffrey Goldberg.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nsa-signal-app-vulnerabilities-before-houthi-strike-chat/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Pam’s stressing over Elon. Elon is under siege. Poor thing

She can’t focus on two problems


Wait, who is pam?

Pam Blondie - another one of the clowns in this worthless administration.

I said something sarcastic on her Twitter thread last night and she “liked” my comment. I forgot to add an (S) but it should have been obvious.

That’s hilarious it wasn’t. Desperately seeking sycophants.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need people like this being interviewed by the media and testifying to Congress.

Her anger is powerful.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2W5M7mp/

I will put a transcript for those who are anti-TikTok or anti-links.

"As someone whose husband is currently deployed in the Middle East not far from Yemen, I'm gonna warn you now, this is going to be the angriest f***ing video I have ever made in my entire life because there are not adequate words in the English language for me to fully f***ing communicate to you right now how f***ing furious I am.

In case you haven't seen yet, news just broke that multiple high-level members of the Trump administration, including VP JD Vance, SoS Marco Rubio, and SecDef Pete Hegseth, shared highly classified information about upcoming troop movements and strikes in Yemen via a Signal chat that they accidentally added a reporter to, violating the f***ing espionage act in the process, and putting the lives of thousands of service members, including my husbands, at risk.

It is only because of the f***ing integrity of the reporter that that information did not get leaked out and cause the deaths of service members. They did all of this after, after we already knew - they already knew - that Signal had recently been f***ing hacked by Russians looking for information about troop movement. Even if you set aside the fact that they accidentally included a reporter in this group chat and none of them even thought to maybe make sure that there wasn't anyone in the group that there shouldn't be, even if you set all of that aside, that it was only the people they meant to be in there, they still f***ing violated the espionage act. They still put troop lives at risk. Their phones could very easily be hacked. Their phones could very easily be stolen. Their phones could very easily be left behind at whatever f***ing bar Pete Hegseth goes to after work every day to get f***ing drunk because he's a god damn alcoholic. All it would take is one of those f***ing phones falling into the wrong hands and those motherf***ers would have sent hundreds of troop members into a f***ing ambush!

Every single Republican member of Congress better be on national news within the next few f***ing hours calling for the f***ing resignation of every single motherf***er on that group chat, up to and including JD Vance. There is no world in which it is acceptable for anyone of those motherf***ers to still have their job by the end of today. If any person in the military did something like this, those motherf***ers would not only lose their job, lose their rank, lose their retirement, they would be in front of a f***ing military judge before you could f***ing blink. They should not face any less punishment.

In a sane world, this scandal would be presidential administration ending. This scandal would singlehandedly bring a presidential administration to their knees. It would end them. It is only because of the pathetic slovish [slothish? slavish? it was garbled here] devotion of MAGA types and the fact that they will f***ing sell out every f***ing value they have ever claimed to have in order f***ing justify every single evil thing that Donald Trump ever does. That is the only reason why this single scandal won't end Trump's presidency, but it absolutely should f***ing end JD Vance's career. It absolutely should f***ing end Marco Rubio's career. It absolutely should f***ing end Pete Hegseth's career.

If you are a Republican member of Congress and you aren't on news within the next few hours calling for their resignations, doing everything that you can to get these pathetic f***ing dangerous men out of office, then you should keep troops names and lives out of your f***ing mouths forever. I don't ever wanna f***ing hear you say you support the troops ever again because no you f***ing don't.

This is the moment where you either prove that you actually give a sh*t about national security, you actually give a sh*t about the lives of service members, or you prove once and for all that you will forever toe the party line. If you do not even have the f***ing courage to call what just happened the f***ing abomination that it is, then honestly, you should put yourself out of your misery and definitely put us out of our misery by stepping down out of your f***ing office. Because how dare you - how dare you gather a paycheck from the American taxpayer while not even having the f***ing courage to call out multiple high-level officials violating the f***ing espionage act and endangering the lives of hundreds, possibly thousands of service members in the Middle East right now. F*** every single one of you, and honestly, if you still support Donald Trump after this, regardless of whether you're an elected politician or just a random Joe Schmoe, f*** you, too." -Kendall Brown


This Kendall Brown Democrat woman needs to be hauled into the US Attorney’s Office and have a discussion with the US Attorney and Stephen Miller about exactly what this administration can do to her husband and her family, as well as to Brown herself.

At the same time, DOJ needs to have a chat with the media about what “embargoed” means. They need to spike any story that mentions the Atlantic article, this Signal chat, or any terrorism or casualties that come from Goldberg’s espionage. Any media who does not comply simply doesn’t get to exist.


haha i think you don't know what embargoed means

i think you mean off the record - but that's not just like michael scott declaring bankruptcy - you don't just shout "off the record" and make it so. off the record is an agreement between a journalist and a source. in this case, there was no agreement - there was no anything other than a bunch of sloppy drunks adding a journalist to their illegal group chat, then telling him a bunch of things that they shouldn't have been talking about on these devices! he was under no obligation not to share anything - it was his own discretion, which is a whole lot more sensitive than these dui hires', not to share info that would have been harmful to national security.

- former journalist, who does know what embargoed means
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of the people in the chat was in Russia at the time.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-envoy-steve-witkoff-signal-text-group-chat-russia-putin/


I would imagine that the U.S. has strict rules on feds bringing unsecured electronics to Russia regardless of whether the trip was work related or not? I know my non government research institution has rules about brining institution (and personal if they are also used for work iirc) electronics to countries like China


Yes, and as we know, the trump team is big in following rules necessary for the protection of national security.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:CBS News has received an internal NSA bulletin from Feb 2025 warning staff NOT to use Signal app for sensitive info, citing vulnerabilities to Russian hackers. These docs were sent pre-Houthi chat scandal with Jeffrey Goldberg.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nsa-signal-app-vulnerabilities-before-houthi-strike-chat/

Trump's inner circle don't read memos. They follow their leader.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:CBS News has received an internal NSA bulletin from Feb 2025 warning staff NOT to use Signal app for sensitive info, citing vulnerabilities to Russian hackers. These docs were sent pre-Houthi chat scandal with Jeffrey Goldberg.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nsa-signal-app-vulnerabilities-before-houthi-strike-chat/

Trump's inner circle don't read memos. They follow their leader.


So the CIA head just perjured himself, with Tulsi sitting next to him? Whoopsie.
post reply Forum Index » Political Discussion
Message Quick Reply
Go to: