Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?

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Anonymous wrote:I also feel sympathy for the people who invested with them. They're the victims of financial fraud.

Same.

Separately I was surprised that Von Furstenburg offered to let her stay in the $10M Miami condo, apparently for free. It is a big gift, and all the living large caused the problems.

And I am surprised she accepted the free stay in the $10M Miami condo, as this is a significant gift from friends and it may also require other spending to keep up that lifestyle, all which contributed to the original problems.

I also think she could have tax implications for this if she’s the only one (with her kids) living in it. She should count the rental value of it as a gift.
She clearly wants to slide right back into the flashy Miami lifestyle she had when she was there during Covid. She’s still not putting the kids first. I give her 6 months until she’s dating someone wealthy. She should have moved in with her parents or sister for the school year and regrouped.

Pretty disgusting of her to make her children switch schools immediately after their father died. Change is so hard for little kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone notice some of these posts are getting deleted?

The post with predictions about her new husband and some other similar ones are gone …

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I also feel sympathy for the people who invested with them. They're the victims of financial fraud.

Same.

Separately I was surprised that Von Furstenburg offered to let her stay in the $10M Miami condo, apparently for free. It is a big gift, and all the living large caused the problems.

And I am surprised she accepted the free stay in the $10M Miami condo, as this is a significant gift from friends and it may also require other spending to keep up that lifestyle, all which contributed to the original problems.

I also think she could have tax implications for this if she’s the only one (with her kids) living in it. She should count the rental value of it as a gift.
She clearly wants to slide right back into the flashy Miami lifestyle she had when she was there during Covid. She’s still not putting the kids first. I give her 6 months until she’s dating someone wealthy. She should have moved in with her parents or sister for the school year and regrouped.

Pretty disgusting of her to make her children switch schools immediately after their father died. Change is so hard for little kids.

I don’t blame her for leaving town, though. Her kids are familiar with Miami and spent most of their winter weekends there, hopefully they can make a fresh start with new friends. I feel terrible for those poor girls! Candice on the other hand, not really!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also feel sympathy for the people who invested with them. They're the victims of financial fraud.

Same.

Separately I was surprised that Von Furstenburg offered to let her stay in the $10M Miami condo, apparently for free. It is a big gift, and all the living large caused the problems.

And I am surprised she accepted the free stay in the $10M Miami condo, as this is a significant gift from friends and it may also require other spending to keep up that lifestyle, all which contributed to the original problems.

I also think she could have tax implications for this if she’s the only one (with her kids) living in it. She should count the rental value of it as a gift.
She clearly wants to slide right back into the flashy Miami lifestyle she had when she was there during Covid. She’s still not putting the kids first. I give her 6 months until she’s dating someone wealthy. She should have moved in with her parents or sister for the school year and regrouped.

Pretty disgusting of her to make her children switch schools immediately after their father died. Change is so hard for little kids.

Riverdale the kids current school costs 66K a year.
Private school in Miami is closer to 35-45K

Still too expensive…

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to give her some grace. He was probably very deceptive with her and she has to mourn her lover and the fact that he left her and the daughters to deal with this mess. There will be rights to her story sold, she’ll have to in order to pay the debts off. I do t now why women are so judgemental and mean to other women. This could happen to any of us albeit on a much much smaller scale for myself! Prayers those girls adjust to their new lives.

She was complicit. She knew.

We do not know that, what type of a sell job did her husband put her through? I suspect at the end of the day we’ll find she’s one of those that signed tax returns without reading them and rubber stamped anything put in front of her. If you look at pictures of her there’s a marked change in her appearance in may/June of this year. She looked fearful, that’s when she really understood what was going on. My bet is it was not her husband who told her the truth. No way she would have taken her children out of this country for an extended trip with credit cards maxed and 8,000 in the bank. She was blindly in love. Life lessons here people.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to give her some grace. He was probably very deceptive with her and she has to mourn her lover and the fact that he left her and the daughters to deal with this mess. There will be rights to her story sold, she’ll have to in order to pay the debts off. I do t now why women are so judgemental and mean to other women. This could happen to any of us albeit on a much much smaller scale for myself! Prayers those girls adjust to their new lives.

She was complicit. She knew.

We do not know that, what type of a sell job did her husband put her through? I suspect at the end of the day we’ll find she’s one of those that signed tax returns without reading them and rubber stamped anything put in front of her. If you look at pictures of her there’s a marked change in her appearance in may/June of this year. She looked fearful, that’s when she really understood what was going on. My bet is it was not her husband who told her the truth. No way she would have taken her children out of this country for an extended trip with credit cards maxed and 8,000 in the bank. She was blindly in love. Life lessons here people.

It was a friend’s husband, to whom Brandon owed a lot of money, who called her and told her about the most recent debts and the loans on the house. But she still took the trip to Europe this summer knowing about all that, plus her husband was clearly miserable and not well. She’s known about money troubles for years and she simply did not care, as long as her credit cards were working.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to give her some grace. He was probably very deceptive with her and she has to mourn her lover and the fact that he left her and the daughters to deal with this mess. There will be rights to her story sold, she’ll have to in order to pay the debts off. I do t now why women are so judgemental and mean to other women. This could happen to any of us albeit on a much much smaller scale for myself! Prayers those girls adjust to their new lives.

She was complicit. She knew.

We do not know that, what type of a sell job did her husband put her through? I suspect at the end of the day we’ll find she’s one of those that signed tax returns without reading them and rubber stamped anything put in front of her. If you look at pictures of her there’s a marked change in her appearance in may/June of this year. She looked fearful, that’s when she really understood what was going on. My bet is it was not her husband who told her the truth. No way she would have taken her children out of this country for an extended trip with credit cards maxed and 8,000 in the bank. She was blindly in love. Life lessons here people.

It was a friend’s husband, to whom Brandon owed a lot of money, who called her and told her about the most recent debts and the loans on the house. But she still took the trip to Europe this summer knowing about all that, plus her husband was clearly miserable and not well. She’s known about money troubles for years and she simply did not care, as long as her credit cards were working.

With those kinds of debts, I don't know how you close your eyes at night or get any sleep. For most people, the anxiety would be overwhelming.

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Anonymous wrote:I also make a prediction she will re-marry as fast as she can snag a rich man. That is, if the authorities don't press charges against her and she has to go to jail instead.

Press charges? For what?

Fraud. Stealing money from her friends.

And you know this how? You don’t know her involvement.

Articles say the couple pitched the investment to their friends. Not just the husband, but the couple.

Terrible.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to give her some grace. He was probably very deceptive with her and she has to mourn her lover and the fact that he left her and the daughters to deal with this mess. There will be rights to her story sold, she’ll have to in order to pay the debts off. I do t now why women are so judgemental and mean to other women. This could happen to any of us albeit on a much much smaller scale for myself! Prayers those girls adjust to their new lives.

She was complicit. She knew.

We do not know that, what type of a sell job did her husband put her through? I suspect at the end of the day we’ll find she’s one of those that signed tax returns without reading them and rubber stamped anything put in front of her. If you look at pictures of her there’s a marked change in her appearance in may/June of this year. She looked fearful, that’s when she really understood what was going on. My bet is it was not her husband who told her the truth. No way she would have taken her children out of this country for an extended trip with credit cards maxed and 8,000 in the bank. She was blindly in love. Life lessons here people.

One of her husbands friends called her months ago and told her they had no money. The house was being foreclosed on. She would have received phone calls and mail about that. I'm sure the designer that has a lawsuit against her would have had Candice's cell phone and would have called, emailed, and texted about overdue invoices for the 49k per month rental furniture.
They were also being sued for nonpayment from the marina. She would have received overdue invoices for months about that.

It is hard to imagine flying off to Europe on a luxe vacation with this level of debt and lawsuits for non payment.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to give her some grace. He was probably very deceptive with her and she has to mourn her lover and the fact that he left her and the daughters to deal with this mess. There will be rights to her story sold, she’ll have to in order to pay the debts off. I do t now why women are so judgemental and mean to other women. This could happen to any of us albeit on a much much smaller scale for myself! Prayers those girls adjust to their new lives.

She was complicit. She knew.

We do not know that, what type of a sell job did her husband put her through? I suspect at the end of the day we’ll find she’s one of those that signed tax returns without reading them and rubber stamped anything put in front of her. If you look at pictures of her there’s a marked change in her appearance in may/June of this year. She looked fearful, that’s when she really understood what was going on. My bet is it was not her husband who told her the truth. No way she would have taken her children out of this country for an extended trip with credit cards maxed and 8,000 in the bank. She was blindly in love. Life lessons here people.

One of her husbands friends called her months ago and told her they had no money. The house was being foreclosed on. She would have received phone calls and mail about that. I'm sure the designer that has a lawsuit against her would have had Candice's cell phone and would have called, emailed, and texted about overdue invoices for the 49k per month rental furniture.
They were also being sued for nonpayment from the marina. She would have received overdue invoices for months about that.

It is hard to imagine flying off to Europe on a luxe vacation with this level of debt and lawsuits for non payment.

Hard to imagine for normal people. But for someone like Candice, who just had everything handed to her and never lifted a finger, it was par for the course. She assumed someone would figure it out for her, so why stop spending?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to give her some grace. He was probably very deceptive with her and she has to mourn her lover and the fact that he left her and the daughters to deal with this mess. There will be rights to her story sold, she’ll have to in order to pay the debts off. I do t now why women are so judgemental and mean to other women. This could happen to any of us albeit on a much much smaller scale for myself! Prayers those girls adjust to their new lives.

She was complicit. She knew.

We do not know that, what type of a sell job did her husband put her through? I suspect at the end of the day we’ll find she’s one of those that signed tax returns without reading them and rubber stamped anything put in front of her. If you look at pictures of her there’s a marked change in her appearance in may/June of this year. She looked fearful, that’s when she really understood what was going on. My bet is it was not her husband who told her the truth. No way she would have taken her children out of this country for an extended trip with credit cards maxed and 8,000 in the bank. She was blindly in love. Life lessons here people.

One of her husbands friends called her months ago and told her they had no money. The house was being foreclosed on. She would have received phone calls and mail about that. I'm sure the designer that has a lawsuit against her would have had Candice's cell phone and would have called, emailed, and texted about overdue invoices for the 49k per month rental furniture.
They were also being sued for nonpayment from the marina. She would have received overdue invoices for months about that.

It is hard to imagine flying off to Europe on a luxe vacation with this level of debt and lawsuits for non payment.

Hard to imagine for normal people. But for someone like Candice, who just had everything handed to her and never lifted a finger, it was par for the course. She assumed someone would figure it out for her, so why stop spending?

Nice spin try.

She's a thief. Her DH was a thief. She flaunted money she and her DH stole from others. You'd be singing a different tune if she had stolen your money or your elderly parents' money.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to give her some grace. He was probably very deceptive with her and she has to mourn her lover and the fact that he left her and the daughters to deal with this mess. There will be rights to her story sold, she’ll have to in order to pay the debts off. I do t now why women are so judgemental and mean to other women. This could happen to any of us albeit on a much much smaller scale for myself! Prayers those girls adjust to their new lives.

She was complicit. She knew.

We do not know that, what type of a sell job did her husband put her through? I suspect at the end of the day we’ll find she’s one of those that signed tax returns without reading them and rubber stamped anything put in front of her. If you look at pictures of her there’s a marked change in her appearance in may/June of this year. She looked fearful, that’s when she really understood what was going on. My bet is it was not her husband who told her the truth. No way she would have taken her children out of this country for an extended trip with credit cards maxed and 8,000 in the bank. She was blindly in love. Life lessons here people.

One of her husbands friends called her months ago and told her they had no money. The house was being foreclosed on. She would have received phone calls and mail about that. I'm sure the designer that has a lawsuit against her would have had Candice's cell phone and would have called, emailed, and texted about overdue invoices for the 49k per month rental furniture.
They were also being sued for nonpayment from the marina. She would have received overdue invoices for months about that.

It is hard to imagine flying off to Europe on a luxe vacation with this level of debt and lawsuits for non payment.

Hard to imagine for normal people. But for someone like Candice, who just had everything handed to her and never lifted a finger, it was par for the course. She assumed someone would figure it out for her, so why stop spending?

Nice spin try.

She's a thief. Her DH was a thief. She flaunted money she and her DH stole from others. You'd be singing a different tune if she had stolen your money or your elderly parents' money.

Agree. She's a pretty terrible woman. I wonder if her daughters will ever forgive her for driving their father to death.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to give her some grace. He was probably very deceptive with her and she has to mourn her lover and the fact that he left her and the daughters to deal with this mess. There will be rights to her story sold, she’ll have to in order to pay the debts off. I do t now why women are so judgemental and mean to other women. This could happen to any of us albeit on a much much smaller scale for myself! Prayers those girls adjust to their new lives.

She was complicit. She knew.

We do not know that, what type of a sell job did her husband put her through? I suspect at the end of the day we’ll find she’s one of those that signed tax returns without reading them and rubber stamped anything put in front of her. If you look at pictures of her there’s a marked change in her appearance in may/June of this year. She looked fearful, that’s when she really understood what was going on. My bet is it was not her husband who told her the truth. No way she would have taken her children out of this country for an extended trip with credit cards maxed and 8,000 in the bank. She was blindly in love. Life lessons here people.

One of her husbands friends called her months ago and told her they had no money. The house was being foreclosed on. She would have received phone calls and mail about that. I'm sure the designer that has a lawsuit against her would have had Candice's cell phone and would have called, emailed, and texted about overdue invoices for the 49k per month rental furniture.
They were also being sued for nonpayment from the marina. She would have received overdue invoices for months about that.

It is hard to imagine flying off to Europe on a luxe vacation with this level of debt and lawsuits for non payment.

Hard to imagine for normal people. But for someone like Candice, who just had everything handed to her and never lifted a finger, it was par for the course. She assumed someone would figure it out for her, so why stop spending?

It's hard to imagine for HONEST people...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to give her some grace. He was probably very deceptive with her and she has to mourn her lover and the fact that he left her and the daughters to deal with this mess. There will be rights to her story sold, she’ll have to in order to pay the debts off. I do t now why women are so judgemental and mean to other women. This could happen to any of us albeit on a much much smaller scale for myself! Prayers those girls adjust to their new lives.

She was complicit. She knew.

We do not know that, what type of a sell job did her husband put her through? I suspect at the end of the day we’ll find she’s one of those that signed tax returns without reading them and rubber stamped anything put in front of her. If you look at pictures of her there’s a marked change in her appearance in may/June of this year. She looked fearful, that’s when she really understood what was going on. My bet is it was not her husband who told her the truth. No way she would have taken her children out of this country for an extended trip with credit cards maxed and 8,000 in the bank. She was blindly in love. Life lessons here people.

One of her husbands friends called her months ago and told her they had no money. The house was being foreclosed on. She would have received phone calls and mail about that. I'm sure the designer that has a lawsuit against her would have had Candice's cell phone and would have called, emailed, and texted about overdue invoices for the 49k per month rental furniture.
They were also being sued for nonpayment from the marina. She would have received overdue invoices for months about that.

It is hard to imagine flying off to Europe on a luxe vacation with this level of debt and lawsuits for non payment.

Hard to imagine for normal people. But for someone like Candice, who just had everything handed to her and never lifted a finger, it was par for the course. She assumed someone would figure it out for her, so why stop spending?

Nice spin try.

She's a thief. Her DH was a thief. She flaunted money she and her DH stole from others. You'd be singing a different tune if she had stolen your money or your elderly parents' money.

Agree. She's a pretty terrible woman. I wonder if her daughters will ever forgive her for driving their father to death.

I don't think its her that drives the Dad to death. Real estate (commercial) took a huge hit since Covid, it's likely his investments are not performing. A single CRE investment can fund her life style x 10 per month.

She can always quit her life style cold turkey, but CRE properties have 7 year tenor on their loans.

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Brandon Miller inherited a real estate business from his Dad with massive debt.

He probably would have been better inheriting "0" rather than a business with massive debt.

I think he was always looking for the one deal to turn things around.