Mom Cliques. I had no idea.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is wild. Who cares who’s getting together, when and how often? If the same 15 moms want to meet at a Winery every Friday, awesome. So what if you weren’t invited. There are lots of things you aren’t invited to, there are many things these women aren’t individually invited to. OP is an adult and I’m assuming has friends beyond the 15 women there. If she is wanting to socialize, she should text some friends and plan something. What these women did/do is their own prerogative

15 bus stop moms is not a small number, so I see why OP seems hurt at not being invited, since it seems like everyone else from that bus stop was invited. And it seems like she thought she was closer friends with them than is actually the case.

So it’s understandable she is seeking similar exclusion stories to take away the sting.

Of course we all know we are not entitled to be invited to everything, and I don’t think OP is saying this. This post is more about it hurting when you thought the relationship was more than it was.

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Anonymous wrote:The mean girl pta vibe is heavy handed here. The defensive posture in favor of this group and antagonistic approach to op is wild.

+1, we actually don't get much info from OP here, certainly not enough to draw conclusions. The people who are assuming good intent by this group and hurling insults at OP are simply showing themselves up.

Seems the opposite to me. All we know is 15 women got together for lunch. Nothing nefarious about that. Why are they suddenly a “mean girl” mom clique? Literally nothing sail alludes to this- OP is just peeved she wasn’t invited. Which in itself isn’t mean spirited

It's typical DCUM. People loooove to dog-pile on the OP and project their own issues. The first couple pages are all mean moms telling OP it's her fault and she made it awkward based on very little info. Says tons about them.

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It’s because Op came out swinging against a group of women who dared to go anywhere without her. She’s not going to get the sisterhood rallying around her when she comes out like that.

Swinging seems intense. She wrote a potentially snarky text to a friend. It may have been reactive but not completely deranged like so many are implying. Honestly does no one have compassion or genuine friendships around here?

If a friend sent me a snarky text because I happened to have social plans that didn’t include her, I would not be clamoring to get together with her anytime soon. Who the heck wants to be guilted for having a social life that doesn’t revolve entirely around inviting that one person along to everything.

If I ran into a couple friends out in a big group I didn’t know I would smile and wave. If I happened to be in close proximity I may make pleasantries and ask how the wine is and if there’s anything they’d recommend ordering for my event. If OP had been friendly maybe she would have been introduced to the group and invited next time. She’ll never be invited now after her little tantrum. And would she really even want an invite given out of some sort of guilt trip?

If OP was my friend, I would have waved her over and asked if she had time to join us for a glass of wine.

That is good manners. Many on this board seemingly have none.

If Queen Bee gets mad and casts me out of the inner circle, then so be it. The rest of the wine mom minions can decide to hang out with and be ruled by a 15-year-old mean girl, in a grown adult's body.

Exactly. Even if it was not school related. That’s my friend. Hey, babe! So cool to see you. Come over?

The last three times I got together with a group of other women were for (1) a book club, (2) to plan a memorial for a child who had died, and (3) working on an upcoming event for a non-profit. If my best friend, who is not in my book club and therefore may not have read the book we were discussing, doesn't know the child who died, and has nothing to do with the non-profit or the event, had walked by me while I was with any of those groups, I absolutely would not have invited her to come join us because it would not be appropriate. It is flabbergasting to me that you people would actually use the words you suggested above. I clearly don't know anyone like you because I don't know anyone who would do that, and if I did, I'm quite certain everyone else in the group would think it was really odd.

But you would say WHY you were gathered right? “hi Susan! Good to see you. We’re planning a kid’s funeral. See you at spin on Wednesday.”

What? No. I absolutely wouldn’t say this. I would make eye contact and smile and that’s it.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is wild. Who cares who’s getting together, when and how often? If the same 15 moms want to meet at a Winery every Friday, awesome. So what if you weren’t invited. There are lots of things you aren’t invited to, there are many things these women aren’t individually invited to. OP is an adult and I’m assuming has friends beyond the 15 women there. If she is wanting to socialize, she should text some friends and plan something. What these women did/do is their own prerogative

15 bus stop moms is not a small number, so I see why OP seems hurt at not being invited, since it seems like everyone else from that bus stop was invited. And it seems like she thought she was closer friends with them than is actually the case.

So it’s understandable she is seeking similar exclusion stories to take away the sting.

Of course we all know we are not entitled to be invited to everything, and I don’t think OP is saying this. This post is more about it hurting when you thought the relationship was more than it was.

+1, this is how I read it. I've even been on the other side of this (in the "clique" and knowing someone who wants to be invited was not) and I'm not offended by what OP says. It's a tricky situation and I can see why it feels bad.

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+1, we actually don't get much info from OP here, certainly not enough to draw conclusions. The people who are assuming good intent by this group and hurling insults at OP are simply showing themselves up.

Seems the opposite to me. All we know is 15 women got together for lunch. Nothing nefarious about that. Why are they suddenly a “mean girl” mom clique? Literally nothing sail alludes to this- OP is just peeved she wasn’t invited. Which in itself isn’t mean spirited

It's typical DCUM. People loooove to dog-pile on the OP and project their own issues. The first couple pages are all mean moms telling OP it's her fault and she made it awkward based on very little info. Says tons about them.

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It’s because Op came out swinging against a group of women who dared to go anywhere without her. She’s not going to get the sisterhood rallying around her when she comes out like that.

Swinging seems intense. She wrote a potentially snarky text to a friend. It may have been reactive but not completely deranged like so many are implying. Honestly does no one have compassion or genuine friendships around here?

If a friend sent me a snarky text because I happened to have social plans that didn’t include her, I would not be clamoring to get together with her anytime soon. Who the heck wants to be guilted for having a social life that doesn’t revolve entirely around inviting that one person along to everything.

If I ran into a couple friends out in a big group I didn’t know I would smile and wave. If I happened to be in close proximity I may make pleasantries and ask how the wine is and if there’s anything they’d recommend ordering for my event. If OP had been friendly maybe she would have been introduced to the group and invited next time. She’ll never be invited now after her little tantrum. And would she really even want an invite given out of some sort of guilt trip?

If OP was my friend, I would have waved her over and asked if she had time to join us for a glass of wine.

That is good manners. Many on this board seemingly have none.

If Queen Bee gets mad and casts me out of the inner circle, then so be it. The rest of the wine mom minions can decide to hang out with and be ruled by a 15-year-old mean girl, in a grown adult's body.

Exactly. Even if it was not school related. That’s my friend. Hey, babe! So cool to see you. Come over?

The last three times I got together with a group of other women were for (1) a book club, (2) to plan a memorial for a child who had died, and (3) working on an upcoming event for a non-profit. If my best friend, who is not in my book club and therefore may not have read the book we were discussing, doesn't know the child who died, and has nothing to do with the non-profit or the event, had walked by me while I was with any of those groups, I absolutely would not have invited her to come join us because it would not be appropriate. It is flabbergasting to me that you people would actually use the words you suggested above. I clearly don't know anyone like you because I don't know anyone who would do that, and if I did, I'm quite certain everyone else in the group would think it was really odd.

But you would say WHY you were gathered right? “hi Susan! Good to see you. We’re planning a kid’s funeral. See you at spin on Wednesday.”

What? No. I absolutely wouldn’t say this. I would make eye contact and smile and that’s it.

Just eye contact to running into your best friend in some random place? I find that odd and I'm an introvert.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is wild. Who cares who’s getting together, when and how often? If the same 15 moms want to meet at a Winery every Friday, awesome. So what if you weren’t invited. There are lots of things you aren’t invited to, there are many things these women aren’t individually invited to. OP is an adult and I’m assuming has friends beyond the 15 women there. If she is wanting to socialize, she should text some friends and plan something. What these women did/do is their own prerogative

15 bus stop moms is not a small number, so I see why OP seems hurt at not being invited, since it seems like everyone else from that bus stop was invited. And it seems like she thought she was closer friends with them than is actually the case.

So it’s understandable she is seeking similar exclusion stories to take away the sting.

Of course we all know we are not entitled to be invited to everything, and I don’t think OP is saying this. This post is more about it hurting when you thought the relationship was more than it was.

It wasn't 15 moms from the bus stop. Where did you get that idea?

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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?

OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.

Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.

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Running into several school mom acquaintances during the day, while on a work event planning meeting, is not “being excluded”

It might be and it might not. It really depends on the circumstances.

The real problem on this thread is that people on both sides are making assumptions about OPs situation that may or may not be true and then laying down a firm edict like yours above that allows for no other possibility.

My guess is that most moms on this thread are not horrible people who purposefully exclude in real life. And many of us have been on both sides of this scenario. But for some reason on this thread, people are coming down hard and being quite belligerent. it's bizarre really.

OP provided zero evidence that these women purposefully excluded her. None. If it had been there, don't you think she would have included it in her posts?

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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?

OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.

Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.

It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.

OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?

OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.

The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.

Look who said "hate" first.

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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?

OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.

Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.

It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.

OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?

OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.

The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.

Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.

I don't think this thread was about hating on other women, it was about sharing experiences with feeling excluded from a group.

The amount of hate direct at OP on this thread was a multitude more than the frankly minor judgment she issued about these women she knows getting together without her.

OP said "Share your favorite mom clique story DCUM."

You don't think that had a negative connotation? She didn't say, "has anyone else been hurt by a situation like this" or a million other things that wouldn't have come across as nasty?

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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?

OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.

Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.

It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.

OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?

OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.

The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.

Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.

I don't think this thread was about hating on other women, it was about sharing experiences with feeling excluded from a group.

The amount of hate direct at OP on this thread was a multitude more than the frankly minor judgment she issued about these women she knows getting together without her.

Get over it. Many people didn't come to the same conclusion as you and were called alcoholics amongst other insults. You can get down off the cross now. Your hands aren't clean.

Wut.

Simple. The b-itches who attacked the OP are mad that the tables turned on them.

DP. Do you hear yourself? You're the one literally calling other women names while trying to condemn what they have said. The delusion is unreal here.

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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?

OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.

Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.

It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.

OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?

OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.

The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.

Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.

I don't think this thread was about hating on other women, it was about sharing experiences with feeling excluded from a group.

The amount of hate direct at OP on this thread was a multitude more than the frankly minor judgment she issued about these women she knows getting together without her.

She didnt say she felt excluded and sad or anything about sharing times others have felt excluded. She says, “LMAO.Share your favorite mom clique story” That pretty much sounds like looking to make fun of others to me

I'm NOT team OP. I think her assumptions were entirely off-base, those women are not a clique and did not exclude her, and her text was ridiculous verging on unhinged. But I don't think the post was misogynistic and I don't really think she wanted to make fun of people for sh*ts and giggles. I think in her mind she truly believes she was excluded and wanted an echo chamber to make herself feel better.

So that's why she chided posters who weren't following her very clear instructions? Ok.

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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?

OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.

Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.

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Running into several school mom acquaintances during the day, while on a work event planning meeting, is not “being excluded”

It might be and it might not. It really depends on the circumstances.

The real problem on this thread is that people on both sides are making assumptions about OPs situation that may or may not be true and then laying down a firm edict like yours above that allows for no other possibility.

My guess is that most moms on this thread are not horrible people who purposefully exclude in real life. And many of us have been on both sides of this scenario. But for some reason on this thread, people are coming down hard and being quite belligerent. it's bizarre really.

OP provided zero evidence that these women purposefully excluded her. None. If it had been there, don't you think she would have included it in her posts?

This is not court, you aren't a prosecutor. No one ever provides "evidence" of any interpersonal reaction on this website, it's anonymous and who has the time.

OP *felt* excluded. That's the subject of the thread. Sure, she might have misinterpreted the situation, always possible. But the idea that it's her job to prove to you that her feelings accurately reflected what happened is silly, because she could never do so.

She saw a big group of women from her kids' school, including a few people she considers close friends, and she felt excluded. The end. There is no point in litigating that. If you want to say "I think you probably misinterpreted this situation and are overreacting" that's fine. But demanding evidence to prove that her perception of the situation is correct? It's hostile and misguided. I hate it when people do this in threads because it just bogs them down in "I don't believe OP, OP is a sociopath, OP is a troll" and nothing fruitful is discussed. If you don't believe an OP, just... don't respond to the thread. It's that easy.

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Anonymous wrote:The mean girl pta vibe is heavy handed here. The defensive posture in favor of this group and antagonistic approach to op is wild.

+1, we actually don't get much info from OP here, certainly not enough to draw conclusions. The people who are assuming good intent by this group and hurling insults at OP are simply showing themselves up.

Seems the opposite to me. All we know is 15 women got together for lunch. Nothing nefarious about that. Why are they suddenly a “mean girl” mom clique? Literally nothing sail alludes to this- OP is just peeved she wasn’t invited. Which in itself isn’t mean spirited

It's typical DCUM. People loooove to dog-pile on the OP and project their own issues. The first couple pages are all mean moms telling OP it's her fault and she made it awkward based on very little info. Says tons about them.

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It’s because Op came out swinging against a group of women who dared to go anywhere without her. She’s not going to get the sisterhood rallying around her when she comes out like that.

Swinging seems intense. She wrote a potentially snarky text to a friend. It may have been reactive but not completely deranged like so many are implying. Honestly does no one have compassion or genuine friendships around here?

If a friend sent me a snarky text because I happened to have social plans that didn’t include her, I would not be clamoring to get together with her anytime soon. Who the heck wants to be guilted for having a social life that doesn’t revolve entirely around inviting that one person along to everything.

If I ran into a couple friends out in a big group I didn’t know I would smile and wave. If I happened to be in close proximity I may make pleasantries and ask how the wine is and if there’s anything they’d recommend ordering for my event. If OP had been friendly maybe she would have been introduced to the group and invited next time. She’ll never be invited now after her little tantrum. And would she really even want an invite given out of some sort of guilt trip?

If OP was my friend, I would have waved her over and asked if she had time to join us for a glass of wine.

That is good manners. Many on this board seemingly have none.

If Queen Bee gets mad and casts me out of the inner circle, then so be it. The rest of the wine mom minions can decide to hang out with and be ruled by a 15-year-old mean girl, in a grown adult's body.

Exactly. Even if it was not school related. That’s my friend. Hey, babe! So cool to see you. Come over?

The last three times I got together with a group of other women were for (1) a book club, (2) to plan a memorial for a child who had died, and (3) working on an upcoming event for a non-profit. If my best friend, who is not in my book club and therefore may not have read the book we were discussing, doesn't know the child who died, and has nothing to do with the non-profit or the event, had walked by me while I was with any of those groups, I absolutely would not have invited her to come join us because it would not be appropriate. It is flabbergasting to me that you people would actually use the words you suggested above. I clearly don't know anyone like you because I don't know anyone who would do that, and if I did, I'm quite certain everyone else in the group would think it was really odd.

But you would say WHY you were gathered right? “hi Susan! Good to see you. We’re planning a kid’s funeral. See you at spin on Wednesday.”

The PP to whom I replied said that she would have said "Hey, babe! So cool to see you. Come over?" Many, many posters said that OP's friends should have/were obligated to invite her to join the group. That is blatantly false. I never once said that I would ignore someone I saw or that I wouldn't say hello or explain what we were doing (although, honestly, I don't think I even have to explain WHY I am meeting with a particular group of people at any given point in time). I said I wouldn't invite them to join me. In response to all the people saying that that's exactly would should happen.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is wild. Who cares who’s getting together, when and how often? If the same 15 moms want to meet at a Winery every Friday, awesome. So what if you weren’t invited. There are lots of things you aren’t invited to, there are many things these women aren’t individually invited to. OP is an adult and I’m assuming has friends beyond the 15 women there. If she is wanting to socialize, she should text some friends and plan something. What these women did/do is their own prerogative

15 bus stop moms is not a small number, so I see why OP seems hurt at not being invited, since it seems like everyone else from that bus stop was invited. And it seems like she thought she was closer friends with them than is actually the case.

So it’s understandable she is seeking similar exclusion stories to take away the sting.

Of course we all know we are not entitled to be invited to everything, and I don’t think OP is saying this. This post is more about it hurting when you thought the relationship was more than it was.

Except that it's not 15 bus stop moms.

And yes, some posters actually have said that they should be invited to everything. OP didn't, but plenty of other posters did.

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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?

OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.

Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.

+1

Running into several school mom acquaintances during the day, while on a work event planning meeting, is not “being excluded”

It might be and it might not. It really depends on the circumstances.

The real problem on this thread is that people on both sides are making assumptions about OPs situation that may or may not be true and then laying down a firm edict like yours above that allows for no other possibility.

My guess is that most moms on this thread are not horrible people who purposefully exclude in real life. And many of us have been on both sides of this scenario. But for some reason on this thread, people are coming down hard and being quite belligerent. it's bizarre really.

OP provided zero evidence that these women purposefully excluded her. None. If it had been there, don't you think she would have included it in her posts?

This is not court, you aren't a prosecutor. No one ever provides "evidence" of any interpersonal reaction on this website, it's anonymous and who has the time.

OP *felt* excluded. That's the subject of the thread. Sure, she might have misinterpreted the situation, always possible. But the idea that it's her job to prove to you that her feelings accurately reflected what happened is silly, because she could never do so.

She saw a big group of women from her kids' school, including a few people she considers close friends, and she felt excluded. The end. There is no point in litigating that. If you want to say "I think you probably misinterpreted this situation and are overreacting" that's fine. But demanding evidence to prove that her perception of the situation is correct? It's hostile and misguided. I hate it when people do this in threads because it just bogs them down in "I don't believe OP, OP is a sociopath, OP is a troll" and nothing fruitful is discussed. If you don't believe an OP, just... don't respond to the thread. It's that easy.

Um, yes, people provide "evidence" of things on here all the time. It's called giving people the facts. It wouldn't have taken that long for OP to do that. She spent the time posting emojis, using all bold type, and hitting at least one additional button for all the punctuation she used. Explaining what exactly had happened would have taken less time.

Everyone who said OP was misinterpreting the situation and overreacted was called names. So that's how that worked out.

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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?

OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.

Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.

It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.

OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?

OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.

The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.

Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.

I don't think this thread was about hating on other women, it was about sharing experiences with feeling excluded from a group.

The amount of hate direct at OP on this thread was a multitude more than the frankly minor judgment she issued about these women she knows getting together without her.

OP said "Share your favorite mom clique story DCUM."

You don't think that had a negative connotation? She didn't say, "has anyone else been hurt by a situation like this" or a million other things that wouldn't have come across as nasty?

OMG, WHO CARES. OP didn't use the precise wording you would have used? You didn't like her emoji? She was flippant when you think this is a very serious conversation? Again, who cares?

I personally do not think "share your favorite mom clique story" is nasty or even that negative. I think it's trying to make light of a situation that is common (feeling left out of a group of women, whatever the reason) to make it more manageable. I actually think it's a healthy attitude to have about what OP experienced, because it's like "oh yeah, sometimes friend groups between women can be a bit insular and it feels bad to be left out, but also I bet I'm not the first or last person to feel this way, let's share stories and that will probably take the sting out a bit."

It's not like she came on her with a list of names to announce that XYZ women in Loudon County are jerks. She was just processing her own hurt in what I think is a reasonable way.

I still don't understand why this made some of you SO angry with her. The response was insane. Even if you think the thread is dumb or think she overreacted, I just can't imagine spending 40 pages determined to rip her to shreds for it. What is the point?