Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw this thread and got my vaccine this morning when I went to pick up a prescription. Thanks for the reminder, DCUM!

I had COVID for the first time in September. It was brutal. Don't want that again.

Stay healthy, everyone!

+1 Good on you

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."

"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1

Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...

Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?

What do YOU expect in January and February?

More of the same. Covid spreading, but not being a big deal overall. Hospitals will be busy, but no more so than any other flu season (80% capacity would be pretty typical for this time of year).

But nowadays its flu and covid, etc so wouldn't hospitals be extra busy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."

"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1

Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...

Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?

What do YOU expect in January and February?

More of the same. Covid spreading, but not being a big deal overall. Hospitals will be busy, but no more so than any other flu season (80% capacity would be pretty typical for this time of year).

But nowadays its flu and covid, etc so wouldn't hospitals be extra busy?

Current hospital occupancy is similar to this time last year, with covid & flu accounting for a smaller share of beds this year than last.
Last year (12/17/22): Overall hospital occupancy 78.4%, with covid at 4.8%, flu 2.2%
Currently (12/16/23): Overall hospital occupancy 77.2%, with covid at 2.9%, flu 0.9%

The CDC thinks RSV has peaked for the winter season so that should also reduce pressure on hospitals going forward, particularly for pediatric beds. Thus, current hospital capacity is in line with prior winters as another PP noted. Omicron continues to be a mild variant which is limiting the number of covid hospitalizations/deaths. https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/data-research/dashboard/hospital-occupancy.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."

"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1

Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...

Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home (but you're probably trumpy and don't believe the CDC either, amirite?)

DCUM doesn't trust the CDC because something something politics. In reality, the CDC isn't calling for lockdowns, so most of DCUM has no use for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."

"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1

Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...

Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home (but you're probably trumpy and don't believe the CDC either, amirite?)

DCUM doesn't trust the CDC because something something politics. In reality, the CDC isn't calling for lockdowns, so most of DCUM has no use for it.

What are you talking about? That does not make sense. The whole point of the CDC is to have an organization to trust.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."

"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1

Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...

Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home (but you're probably trumpy and don't believe the CDC either, amirite?)

DCUM doesn't trust the CDC because something something politics. In reality, the CDC isn't calling for lockdowns, so most of DCUM has no use for it.

What are you talking about? That does not make sense. The whole point of the CDC is to have an organization to trust.

If you still trust the CDC, you’re probably the type of person who would take candy offered by a dude dressed like a clown and driving a white van.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."

"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1

Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...

Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?

What do YOU expect in January and February?

More of the same. Covid spreading, but not being a big deal overall. Hospitals will be busy, but no more so than any other flu season (80% capacity would be pretty typical for this time of year).

But nowadays its flu and covid, etc so wouldn't hospitals be extra busy?

Compared to pre-covid? Probably, although probably not enough to be noticeable. Of course you'd expect the introduction of a new virus to move the baseline a bit. That's not a "surge" or a "spike" or whatever other term scared people want to use. It's just the new normal. And we already know from the last couple of years that the new normal is fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."

"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1

Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...

Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?

What do YOU expect in January and February?

More of the same. Covid spreading, but not being a big deal overall. Hospitals will be busy, but no more so than any other flu season (80% capacity would be pretty typical for this time of year).

But nowadays its flu and covid, etc so wouldn't hospitals be extra busy?

Current hospital occupancy is similar to this time last year, with covid & flu accounting for a smaller share of beds this year than last.
Last year (12/17/22): Overall hospital occupancy 78.4%, with covid at 4.8%, flu 2.2%
Currently (12/16/23): Overall hospital occupancy 77.2%, with covid at 2.9%, flu 0.9%

The CDC thinks RSV has peaked for the winter season so that should also reduce pressure on hospitals going forward, particularly for pediatric beds. Thus, current hospital capacity is in line with prior winters as another PP noted. Omicron continues to be a mild variant which is limiting the number of covid hospitalizations/deaths. https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/data-research/dashboard/hospital-occupancy.html

Add to that that hospital staffing, at least in this region has substantially improved. They're no longer dependent on traveling nurses getting paid exorbitant rates, or having nurses cover in departments where they haven't been trained.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."

"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1

Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...

Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home (but you're probably trumpy and don't believe the CDC either, amirite?)

DCUM doesn't trust the CDC because something something politics. In reality, the CDC isn't calling for lockdowns, so most of DCUM has no use for it.

What are you talking about? That does not make sense. The whole point of the CDC is to have an organization to trust.

The CDC dropped the ball on that one when they started acting like a political organization rather than a scientific one, with the second administration somehow being even worse than the first one. They've lost a great deal of their credibility to the public, and that's not even limited to one end of the political spectrum. And it pains me to acknowledge that, as a scientist as a different federal agency. But there's no obvious way out of the hole they dug for themselves other than simply waiting for people to forget and then attempting to rebuild it from scratch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."

"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1

Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...

Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home (but you're probably trumpy and don't believe the CDC either, amirite?)

DCUM doesn't trust the CDC because something something politics. In reality, the CDC isn't calling for lockdowns, so most of DCUM has no use for it.

What are you talking about? That does not make sense. The whole point of the CDC is to have an organization to trust.

DCUM believes that the Biden administration is forcing certian CDC policies on COVID in order to get people back in the office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Forbes: "Covid levels have once again rebounded, hitting their highest levels since last December.."

"..The CDC lists 23 states as having “very high” levels of Covid, according to wastewater data, primarily in the Northeast, Midwest and upper Great Plains (Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin).
Another 12 states are considered to have “high” levels of Covid, including Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Kansas, Nevada, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Virginia..."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/21/covid-levels-surge-as-millions-of-americans-plan-holiday-travel-heres-where-its-spreading/?sh=44f8eca441e1

Yes, Forbes, the well-known medical journal...

Setting that aside, and fact that wastewater data is not an accurate, direct measure of cases, covid is a respiratory virus. What did you expect to see in the winter?

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home (but you're probably trumpy and don't believe the CDC either, amirite?)

DP Covid cases always rise in winter, so it's not useful to cite week-over-week or month-over-month changes. Of course those latter measures will show growth in winter due to seasonal factors. You want to look at year-over-year growth measures which strip out the seasonal component and thus better show underlying changes. Covid hospitalizations are the lowest they have been for any December and are down 30% relative to last year at this time. We are in a much better position than we have been with covid previously in terms of hospitalizations & deaths this winter, despite minimal uptake of the new booster. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklyhospitaladmissions_select_00

Always, which you know, because of the...4 winters we've had with it? Covid is trending up. You can put the blame wherever you like, but you can't argue the facts. You can play this weird comparison you've tried to use to downplay the significance, but covid is trending up. I'm glad you're comfortable saying it's better than it was (because people got vaxxed), and it sounds like anti-vax excusemaking. "Cover your face and boost your vax" is the only sensible strategy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not wanting long covid or getting shingles again is why I’m part of the 14%.

Covid is not shingles

+1 You seriously cannot think this will protect you from shingles. That is a vaccine I will begrudgingly get because I don't want shingles even though the vaccine will suck.

I don't care if I get Covid.

FFS. The stupid is getting worse on this site. Many people got Shingles POST COVID because your immune system is hit so hard.

Many of us got shingles post covid shot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not wanting long covid or getting shingles again is why I’m part of the 14%.

Covid is not shingles

+1 You seriously cannot think this will protect you from shingles. That is a vaccine I will begrudgingly get because I don't want shingles even though the vaccine will suck.

I don't care if I get Covid.

NP. I got shingles right after getting the covid vaccine. I had a long-term reaction to the covid vax (not even including no period for four months) - getting covid itself was much milder (admittedly I had already had the bad so maybe it would otherwise have been worse).

Same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People are so dumb. Wake up.

Covid is seriously messing with our immune systems and you need to do all you can to protect yourself and your families

The covid vaccine is screwing up our immune systems.

Covid has become a routine cold.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:US public health has totally screwed it up. The focus needs to be on the elderly, esp. those in nursing homes, since that's 90% of the deaths. But instead everything they put out is "ages 6 months and up", implying every age has the same level of risk.

Additionally adding in unsupported messaging, e.g., this will help prevent long covid, or outright untruths, "this will keep you from transmitting to Grandma" continues to turn people off to the vaccine.

There marketing is based off making money, not doing what is right or what makes the most sense. Big pharm monetizing fear. Who knew?