New bike lane on Old Georgetown Rd in Bethesda

[Anonymous]

Saw a fender bender coming off 270 today due to the awkward turn from the ramp. Guess where the cars pulled off. Wonder if some angry bikers stumbled upon the blockage in their beautiful own path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Saw a fender bender coming off 270 today due to the awkward turn from the ramp. Guess where the cars pulled off. Wonder if some angry bikers stumbled upon the blockage in their beautiful own path.

The accident that everyone predicted would happen due to the obviously dangerous changes to the ramps has happened. The question is how much longer these hazardous road conditions will be allowed to continue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a fender bender coming off 270 today due to the awkward turn from the ramp. Guess where the cars pulled off. Wonder if some angry bikers stumbled upon the blockage in their beautiful own path.

The accident that everyone predicted would happen due to the obviously dangerous changes to the ramps has happened. The question is how much longer these hazardous road conditions will be allowed to continue.

Except for the person who made a video I haven’t seen any other cyclists in the bike lanes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a fender bender coming off 270 today due to the awkward turn from the ramp. Guess where the cars pulled off. Wonder if some angry bikers stumbled upon the blockage in their beautiful own path.

The accident that everyone predicted would happen due to the obviously dangerous changes to the ramps has happened. The question is how much longer these hazardous road conditions will be allowed to continue.

Except for the person who made a video I haven’t seen any other cyclists in the bike lanes.

Weather has been mild, there has been no excuse.

On top of everything, it is just ridiculous that they have given 11 ft per bike lane and only 10 ft for the travel lanes.

This is just the most ill-conceived and executed plan that I have ever seen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a fender bender coming off 270 today due to the awkward turn from the ramp. Guess where the cars pulled off. Wonder if some angry bikers stumbled upon the blockage in their beautiful own path.

The accident that everyone predicted would happen due to the obviously dangerous changes to the ramps has happened. The question is how much longer these hazardous road conditions will be allowed to continue.

Speaking of hazardous road conditions, how about 2 dead teenage bicyclists and at least 2 more critically injured bicyclists within 3 years, all of whom were either on the sidewalk or in a crosswalk? Not to mention a dead pedestrian, several seriously-injured pedestrians, and multiple pedestrians and bicyclists who were hit but not seriously injured..

Now compare that to a "fender bender" and tell me which is more important.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a fender bender coming off 270 today due to the awkward turn from the ramp. Guess where the cars pulled off. Wonder if some angry bikers stumbled upon the blockage in their beautiful own path.

The accident that everyone predicted would happen due to the obviously dangerous changes to the ramps has happened. The question is how much longer these hazardous road conditions will be allowed to continue.

Speaking of hazardous road conditions, how about 2 dead teenage bicyclists and at least 2 more critically injured bicyclists within 3 years, all of whom were either on the sidewalk or in a crosswalk? Not to mention a dead pedestrian, several seriously-injured pedestrians, and multiple pedestrians and bicyclists who were hit but not seriously injured..

Now compare that to a "fender bender" and tell me which is more important.

It’s an interesting perspective that you think it is necessary to make roads less safe for the vast majority of everyone else just to make then safer for a handful of people. If that was the case, then ultimately there is no utility to bike lanes and there would never be a purpose to installing them.

I support bike lanes because they are supposed to make everyone safer. When they do not meet that objective then they need to be modified.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a fender bender coming off 270 today due to the awkward turn from the ramp. Guess where the cars pulled off. Wonder if some angry bikers stumbled upon the blockage in their beautiful own path.

The accident that everyone predicted would happen due to the obviously dangerous changes to the ramps has happened. The question is how much longer these hazardous road conditions will be allowed to continue.

Speaking of hazardous road conditions, how about 2 dead teenage bicyclists and at least 2 more critically injured bicyclists within 3 years, all of whom were either on the sidewalk or in a crosswalk? Not to mention a dead pedestrian, several seriously-injured pedestrians, and multiple pedestrians and bicyclists who were hit but not seriously injured..

Now compare that to a "fender bender" and tell me which is more important.

They’re both exceedingly rare events and should not be the basis for making policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a fender bender coming off 270 today due to the awkward turn from the ramp. Guess where the cars pulled off. Wonder if some angry bikers stumbled upon the blockage in their beautiful own path.

The accident that everyone predicted would happen due to the obviously dangerous changes to the ramps has happened. The question is how much longer these hazardous road conditions will be allowed to continue.

Speaking of hazardous road conditions, how about 2 dead teenage bicyclists and at least 2 more critically injured bicyclists within 3 years, all of whom were either on the sidewalk or in a crosswalk? Not to mention a dead pedestrian, several seriously-injured pedestrians, and multiple pedestrians and bicyclists who were hit but not seriously injured..

Now compare that to a "fender bender" and tell me which is more important.

It’s an interesting perspective that you think it is necessary to make roads less safe for the vast majority of everyone else just to make then safer for a handful of people. If that was the case, then ultimately there is no utility to bike lanes and there would never be a purpose to installing them.

I support bike lanes because they are supposed to make everyone safer. When they do not meet that objective then they need to be modified.

Please provide evidence that they have made Old Georgetown Road less safe. Traffic back-ups don't make roads less safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a fender bender coming off 270 today due to the awkward turn from the ramp. Guess where the cars pulled off. Wonder if some angry bikers stumbled upon the blockage in their beautiful own path.

The accident that everyone predicted would happen due to the obviously dangerous changes to the ramps has happened. The question is how much longer these hazardous road conditions will be allowed to continue.

Speaking of hazardous road conditions, how about 2 dead teenage bicyclists and at least 2 more critically injured bicyclists within 3 years, all of whom were either on the sidewalk or in a crosswalk? Not to mention a dead pedestrian, several seriously-injured pedestrians, and multiple pedestrians and bicyclists who were hit but not seriously injured..

Now compare that to a "fender bender" and tell me which is more important.

It’s an interesting perspective that you think it is necessary to make roads less safe for the vast majority of everyone else just to make then safer for a handful of people. If that was the case, then ultimately there is no utility to bike lanes and there would never be a purpose to installing them.

I support bike lanes because they are supposed to make everyone safer. When they do not meet that objective then they need to be modified.

Please provide evidence that they have made Old Georgetown Road less safe. Traffic back-ups don't make roads less safe.

Go away dude. The sea-lion routine is getting old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a fender bender coming off 270 today due to the awkward turn from the ramp. Guess where the cars pulled off. Wonder if some angry bikers stumbled upon the blockage in their beautiful own path.

The accident that everyone predicted would happen due to the obviously dangerous changes to the ramps has happened. The question is how much longer these hazardous road conditions will be allowed to continue.

Except for the person who made a video I haven’t seen any other cyclists in the bike lanes.

Weather has been mild, there has been no excuse.

On top of everything, it is just ridiculous that they have given 11 ft per bike lane and only 10 ft for the travel lanes.

This is just the most ill-conceived and executed plan that I have ever seen.

1) I biked it and I think the bike lane is great
2) Other than a few hours of rush hour each day, OGR doesn't need 3 lanes in each direction.
3) To be fair, I only saw one other bicyclist during my ride last Sat. However, it takes time for people to figure out what need they might use it for.
Now that I cycled from DC to Pike and Rose, I think I might be willing to bike up there more often. I never would have bike this before the bike lane
4) The Bethesda Trolley trail (The section near NIH) is really a joke. It really needs to be redesigned.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for spotting that. I knew that I recognized this nonsense from somewhere. People like that are not worth engaging, for obvious reasons.

For proper context, here’s the full cartoon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a fender bender coming off 270 today due to the awkward turn from the ramp. Guess where the cars pulled off. Wonder if some angry bikers stumbled upon the blockage in their beautiful own path.

The accident that everyone predicted would happen due to the obviously dangerous changes to the ramps has happened. The question is how much longer these hazardous road conditions will be allowed to continue.

Speaking of hazardous road conditions, how about 2 dead teenage bicyclists and at least 2 more critically injured bicyclists within 3 years, all of whom were either on the sidewalk or in a crosswalk? Not to mention a dead pedestrian, several seriously-injured pedestrians, and multiple pedestrians and bicyclists who were hit but not seriously injured..

Now compare that to a "fender bender" and tell me which is more important.

It’s an interesting perspective that you think it is necessary to make roads less safe for the vast majority of everyone else just to make then safer for a handful of people. If that was the case, then ultimately there is no utility to bike lanes and there would never be a purpose to installing them.

I support bike lanes because they are supposed to make everyone safer. When they do not meet that objective then they need to be modified.

Please provide evidence that they have made Old Georgetown Road less safe. Traffic back-ups don't make roads less safe.

Go away dude. The sea-lion routine is getting old.

This is a thread about the new bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road. You said they make the roads less safe. What are you basing this on, besides feelings and one fender-bender (which there were plenty of, before the bike lanes)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a fender bender coming off 270 today due to the awkward turn from the ramp. Guess where the cars pulled off. Wonder if some angry bikers stumbled upon the blockage in their beautiful own path.

The accident that everyone predicted would happen due to the obviously dangerous changes to the ramps has happened. The question is how much longer these hazardous road conditions will be allowed to continue.

Speaking of hazardous road conditions, how about 2 dead teenage bicyclists and at least 2 more critically injured bicyclists within 3 years, all of whom were either on the sidewalk or in a crosswalk? Not to mention a dead pedestrian, several seriously-injured pedestrians, and multiple pedestrians and bicyclists who were hit but not seriously injured..

Now compare that to a "fender bender" and tell me which is more important.

It’s an interesting perspective that you think it is necessary to make roads less safe for the vast majority of everyone else just to make then safer for a handful of people. If that was the case, then ultimately there is no utility to bike lanes and there would never be a purpose to installing them.

I support bike lanes because they are supposed to make everyone safer. When they do not meet that objective then they need to be modified.

Please provide evidence that they have made Old Georgetown Road less safe. Traffic back-ups don't make roads less safe.

Go away dude. The sea-lion routine is getting old.

This is a thread about the new bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road. You said they make the roads less safe. What are you basing this on, besides feelings and one fender-bender (which there were plenty of, before the bike lanes)?

LOL. How are you still at it? Like seriously get a clue. No one is going to engage with you in this nonsense. Just stop already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a fender bender coming off 270 today due to the awkward turn from the ramp. Guess where the cars pulled off. Wonder if some angry bikers stumbled upon the blockage in their beautiful own path.

The accident that everyone predicted would happen due to the obviously dangerous changes to the ramps has happened. The question is how much longer these hazardous road conditions will be allowed to continue.

Speaking of hazardous road conditions, how about 2 dead teenage bicyclists and at least 2 more critically injured bicyclists within 3 years, all of whom were either on the sidewalk or in a crosswalk? Not to mention a dead pedestrian, several seriously-injured pedestrians, and multiple pedestrians and bicyclists who were hit but not seriously injured..

Now compare that to a "fender bender" and tell me which is more important.

It’s an interesting perspective that you think it is necessary to make roads less safe for the vast majority of everyone else just to make then safer for a handful of people. If that was the case, then ultimately there is no utility to bike lanes and there would never be a purpose to installing them.

I support bike lanes because they are supposed to make everyone safer. When they do not meet that objective then they need to be modified.

Please provide evidence that they have made Old Georgetown Road less safe. Traffic back-ups don't make roads less safe.

Go away dude. The sea-lion routine is getting old.

This is a thread about the new bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road. You said they make the roads less safe. What are you basing this on, besides feelings and one fender-bender (which there were plenty of, before the bike lanes)?

This is literally the “can you defend your statement” frame. Oh my god!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a fender bender coming off 270 today due to the awkward turn from the ramp. Guess where the cars pulled off. Wonder if some angry bikers stumbled upon the blockage in their beautiful own path.

The accident that everyone predicted would happen due to the obviously dangerous changes to the ramps has happened. The question is how much longer these hazardous road conditions will be allowed to continue.

Speaking of hazardous road conditions, how about 2 dead teenage bicyclists and at least 2 more critically injured bicyclists within 3 years, all of whom were either on the sidewalk or in a crosswalk? Not to mention a dead pedestrian, several seriously-injured pedestrians, and multiple pedestrians and bicyclists who were hit but not seriously injured..

Now compare that to a "fender bender" and tell me which is more important.

It’s an interesting perspective that you think it is necessary to make roads less safe for the vast majority of everyone else just to make then safer for a handful of people. If that was the case, then ultimately there is no utility to bike lanes and there would never be a purpose to installing them.

I support bike lanes because they are supposed to make everyone safer. When they do not meet that objective then they need to be modified.

Please provide evidence that they have made Old Georgetown Road less safe. Traffic back-ups don't make roads less safe.

Go away dude. The sea-lion routine is getting old.

This is a thread about the new bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road. You said they make the roads less safe. What are you basing this on, besides feelings and one fender-bender (which there were plenty of, before the bike lanes)?

This is literally the “can you defend your statement” frame. Oh my god!

Yes, it is. Defend your statement. Or not. Up to you. The facts to date show that the bike lanes have not made Old Georgetown Road less safe.